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Roadblock cleared: Deontay Wilder, Luis Ortiz slated to meet on Nov. 4

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Deontay Wilder is finally set to secure the kind of tough opponent he’s long sought.

The WBC heavyweight titleholder is slated to meet top contender Luis Ortiz on November 4 in Brooklyn, New York, on Showtime, sources told RingTV.com.

A major roadblock was finally cleared this week when WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman mediated over talks between Wilder promoter Lou DiBella and Stiverne promoter Don King, a source told RingTV.com.

The sides came to a resolution, with Stiverne receiving step-aside money to allow Wilder to go ahead with the Ortiz bout; the agreement calls for Stiverne to fight on the televised undercard against a legit opponent, and should he win, he’ll face the WBC champion next, likely in early 2018.

Stiverne was named the WBC’s No. 1 contender in January after his interim title fight against Alexander Povetkin was scrapped when the Russian tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs.

Povetkin, of course, also failed a PED test in the summer of 2016, which canceled a planned fight against Wilder, in what would have been the American’s first big step-up in class.

No television network is interested in a Wilder-Stiverne rematch, though. After all, Wilder dominated Stiverne in their January 2015 meeting, and there’s no real need for a second bout.

In an attempt to persuade Stiverne to allow Wilder-Ortiz to take place, the Haiti native was offered a mid six-figure payday as a step-aside fee, according to sources.

However, he refused the offer, instead opting to fight Wilder in the rematch immediately. Stiverne hired attorney Josh Dubin, the longtime lawyer for Andre Ward and Lennox Lewis, to ensure that happens.

Wilder (38-0, 37 knockouts) has made five defenses of the heavyweight strap he won from Stiverne. Most recently, he stopped Gerald Washington in five rounds in February.

Ortiz (27-0, 23 KOs) has been calling for — and deserving of — a title shot since he blasted out Bryant Jennings in December 2015. But the 38-year-old — a Cuban puncher who can box and move, who brings tremendous risk and delivers little reward — has been eluded by the top fighters.

Wilder is willing to step up to the plate. Now, the fight is very close to being delivered.

Mike Coppinger is the Senior Writer for RingTV.com. Follow him on Twitter: @MikeCoppinger

 

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  • Charlie U.

    Now, this is a good look for Wilder. He was beginning to lose fans, Ceylon and myself included. Don’t screw this up, Stiverne!

    • wayne reid

      Well Stiverne is gonna screw this up or try to prevent this match up from taking place because he just hired James Prince & Josh Dubin (Andre ward’s Team) as new management to handle Biz…smh

      • ceylon mooney

        ur right. damn man.

    • ceylon mooney

      for REAL man! hell dont nobody eff this one up!

    • ceylon mooney

      goddam looks like stiverne gonna screw it up

  • Dave O’Connor

    Good on him, I hope this happens, I think it would be a cracker!

  • left hook

    I think Wilder’s loses his unbeaten record and his belt.

    • ceylon mooney

      its possible, but i learned to not underestimate wilder a good while ago.

      • Keano

        Not to underestimate Wilder? I’ve had tougher battles getting out of bed in the morning than any of his fights.

        • ceylon mooney

          HA! then maybe you can have the WBU belt!

          • Keano

            Worth more than the WBC for heavyweights at this point

          • ceylon mooney

            crete and sardinia are high up on my list

        • Chris Stans

          Idk I’m kinda starting to think Wilder fights to the level of his opponents. It’s the only explanation for how well he boxed stiverne but how poorly he boxes guys like washington

          • ceylon mooney

            seems that way.

          • Keano

            I think he boxed Stiverne well because Stiverne is an awful awful boxer, not above any of the other bums Wilder has beat

          • Chris Stans

            He was an undefeated top 10 heavy when they met

          • Keano

            Dillian Whyte would have made him stand out, made him a big payday, and probably earnt him an extra 10 million against Joshua. But he will fight Stiverne instead

          • Keano

            Lmao he lost to 11-15 at the time Demetrice King he wasn’t unbeaten

          • ceylon mooney

            not awful. he looked pretty bad lately tho.

  • Keano

    Yes! If this happens Wilder will finally lose the belt

  • Mike M.

    Hope this fight gets made I really like Ortiz’s chances against Wilder, but I feel Wilder still beats him.

  • ciobanu catalin

    Happy to see this.hope it happens, it light up the hw even more. Hope ortiz gets that belt and goes for aj!

  • Sidewinder

    BOMB SQUAD !!!!

    • Keano

      *BONG SQUAD
      Fixed that for you

      • JV316

        does marijuana offend your dainty sensibilities

        • Keano

          Not at all. Just shouldn’t be what a professional boxer is doing in my opinion.

          • JV316

            more boxers probably should partake when they are not in training. have heard of showing of positive impact on effects of CTE in connection with NFL players. and it’s not a performance enhancer. kind of stupid that it is a banned substance.

          • Mauro Hermida

            Its stupid that it isnt legalized in this country, then again our attorney general believes its as bad as heroin.

          • JV316

            haha very true. i’m in CA so recreational was just legalized but haven’t really seen it implemented yet. supposedly it’s available to the public in vegas for recreational as of a few weeks ago, apparently there are places on the strip right now that will sell to anyone who wants to buy. and it didn’t take long before governor sandoval just declared a state of emergency because of a marijuana shortage, no joke, found that amusing

          • Keano

            At least you guys have states where it is recreational! In the UK we don’t even have medicinal lol!

          • JV316

            be patient friend, if recreational works well here (and it seems to be working in colorado which was the first state to fully legalize, at least that’s what i heard), i bet the UK could follow suit soon…at least on the medicinal front, baby steps

          • JV316

            by the way sorry i didnt mean to go at you, it was actually a pretty funny joke that you made. weed just a pet peeve issue for me

          • Stephen M

            Me too. Weed is finally going to be legalized up here in Canada. I have a psychiatrist client, who was part of a panel that the Order of Psychiatrists put together for their position on weed. He sent me the paper because we have had discussions (disagreements) on the subject. When I read their statement I had smoke coming out of my years…

          • JV316

            interesting, that’s great for canada (i believe 2018 full legal will be implemented here in california), thankfully there are plenty of doctors now who are increasingly willing to talk about the benefits (or at least the contradiction of treating it differently from any number of other substances)

          • Stephen M

            Surprisingly, marijuana was made illegal on the basis of no evidence whatsoever. Once illegal, we have had to overcome the force of inertia and of propaganda to get it legalized. My psychiatrist client has no problem with alcohol but marijuana can be dangerous…. Sigh.

          • Cousin Strawberry ( Cheech)

            Good news. Its legal now in California.👍

          • ceylon mooney

            wasnt it tolerated? i dunno thenlegal status, but i went to pot bars in vancouver in the 90s

          • Stephen M

            Tolerance varies by province and time period. Mostly, you won’t end up in jail for possession but you could.

          • ceylon mooney

            gotcha.

            man, BC is beautiful. maritimes too. man. drove all thru banf in the fall a while back.

          • Stephen M

            You’ll probably like Montreal, great food , music and bars and safe (no guns).

          • ceylon mooney

            as a matter of fact i do! but i aint been since back in the days of dollar falafil and pizza slices. yeah i dont think i been since the 90s. i was surprised at how segregated it was. it was almost 2 different cities.

          • Stephen M

            You mean French and English? Yeah, two solitudes. It’s less so now but it still is.

          • ceylon mooney

            yeah

            id like to go back. wanta see david lemieux or stevenson fight there.

          • ceylon mooney

            but they do

          • Mike M.

            If you ask me, they’re the one’s who should! be using that purple rain lol.

          • Tony Wazny

            aaand why not?

    • Uncle Sham

      Alabama Windmill is gonna get bricked by a southpaw left

    • Gregory Fulton

      BUM SQUAD !!!!

  • Chris

    “Deontay Wilder could finally secure the kind of tough opponent he’s long sought.”
    Really … Ortiz offered to fight him last time (pre Washington as a step in) but he said he wouldn’t fight a doper.

    This fight looks great , Ortiz may have lost a bit looking at his last two fights but its a top class quality fight. Full credit if they actually make it to a ring.

    Though the news looks like Stiverne has said no and got the lawyers in to block this, says the TV is Wilder’s problem.

    • Fist_ti_cuffs

      Quit it. You and everyone on this site knows Ortiz was an HBO guy. SMH

  • ceylon mooney

    its about damn time EITHER of these faced a top 10 fighter (of course its wilders secons time) i was

    • Keano

      Stiverne is not and never has been top 10 anything apart from bum

      • ceylon mooney

        rankings dont go according to whether or not a random fan likes someone. he as top ten when wilder beat him.

        • Keano

          What does make him a top 10 then?

          • ceylon mooney

            oh man, ive got my opinions on how it should go and how it probably goes, but for the real answer youll have to talk to

            transnational boxing rankings
            ring magazine ratings/rankings board
            boxrec

            these have their biases, they have agendas, but theyre the big three.

            those are all more legit than the sanctioning bodies rankings. their rankings mostly give you their order of preference for title fights not actual rankings.

          • Mauro Hermida

            A weak heavyweight division.

      • left hook

        He was WBC champion.

  • Kiowhatta

    ‘Deontay Wilder could finally secure the kind of tough opponent he’s long sought.’ That is a very complimentary assessment of Wilder’s intentions and actions since he won the title.
    I actually think Wilder has had to succumb to the rancor of fans, who have been in chorus, labelling him deservedly as a ducker, and cherry picker.
    I doubt this fight will take place. As usual, something will happen to spare Wilders dwindling reputation, and another cab driver will step in at 5 minute notice ranked 250 AGAIN.
    I also blame Ortiz for being an blustering fool, full of talk and no backbone. Most of these guys are social media warriors by championship boxing standards.
    Some cro magnon throw-back suggested Ortiz wasn’t his stated age of 38, implying that forging your age was a ‘trick’ in order to lure opponents into thinking ‘you’re past it’. I’m starting to believe that this is possible along with all the other circus acts that go on in this division.
    The only credible figure is Parker, I had AJ on my list, but am annoyed he would waste his, and the fans time in returning to beat up an over the hill former champion, who nobody except Wladimir is interested in seeing him holding 2-3 belts and negotiating his way around the division. Step aside, and for evolution’s sake, let’s see the young, big talented guy’s fight each other finally; we have been patient.

    • Keano

      Absolutely correct about Wilder being forced into this by the fans, I also agree that the fight will not happen as I believe he will fight Stiverne (which NOONE wants)

      Ortiz is very strongly rumoured to actually be over 38 – who even forces him to announce his age correctly as a boxer? I personally believe he is between 45-50

      Joshua had a rematch clause in the fight, it still hasn’t been confirmed that Klitschko will even take the rematch so hopefully he doesn’t. Joshua still has his IBF mandatory to fight though,

      • left hook

        If he is 45-50 as u have claimed, then he should have declined by now.

        • Keano

          Are you saying that he hasn’t declined? He hasn’t even really beat anyone good anyway.

    • Mauro Hermida

      A rematch clause was in the contract and I thought it was put in there by Wlad.

  • Greg Myers

    wow..finally get to see how good wilder is if it happens and I’m hoping it does..

  • Floridastorm

    I have no idea what fans see in this guy Ortiz. He has fought absolutely nobody. His toughest fight was against Tony Thompson. That will tell you something. He’s a slow stationary target. His punching power is overblown. Of course you can knockdown and knockout nobodies. From what I see he also pushes his punches instead of throwing them with conviction. Wilder will KO him faster than he did 36-0 Malik Scott. I honestly don’t think any heavyweight today, including Joshua, could hang with Wilder. None of them has faced anyone with the power of Wilder. Not even close. And, Wilder is actually becoming a pretty good boxer, too.

    • Keano

      Wilder couldn’t box eggs

    • The Parrfection

      The champ is “actually becoming a pretty good boxer”? First, wow. Second, if you recognize that, you can at least see why Ortiz is held in such high esteem: he’s actually a pretty good boxer.

      • Mauro Hermida

        Florida is the very definition of Wilder nuthugger to say that garbage. I think this favoritism comes from the fact Wilder is a US heavy and an overrated one at that.

        • ceylon mooney

          overrated? hes the most heavily badmouthed and criticized.

    • Mauro Hermida

      You are a fool if you dont think Wlad punches harder, with both hands.

    • ceylon mooney

      he wasted jennings.

  • ceylon mooney

    ok now stiverne wont step aside. he hired an attorney. its already been mandated, but aint nobody wanta see that again.

  • PrinceGian

    Wilder vs Ortiz? I’ll believe it when I see it. Either Stiverne or tomato can seem more likely as Wilder’s next opponent.

    • Fist_ti_cuffs

      Didn’t you just read the article? I guess you’re just like the typical dick on this site. #fuckyourfavoritefighter -_-

      • PrinceGian

        Lick my left one

    • Joe Ordanio

      Agreed. No way Wilder’s managers will allow that even if Deontay wants to , and I believe he does. Will be interesting to see what they come up with to avoid it though.

    • Fist_ti_cuffs

      Well according to Dan Rafael you are absolutely wrong. Haters gonna hate though. Provide some fact next time and not just your terrible opinion.
      http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=1-20523819

  • Alan Lindsay

    Can’t with to see aj smash you up d.with your a joke boy

  • Alan Lindsay

    Wilder your a joke aj will smash you I port money on it big up A.J

    • ceylon mooney

      hes looked as good as hes looked bad. wilder CAN box and has shown us some
      discipline. his hand speed on that 1-2 is pretty nasty, and that 1-2 can be accurate; in addition, i seen a decent inside uppercut.

      i cant count him out against AJ.

      • Boxfan

        And the right hand can put anybody from any era to sleep if it lands on the button. I agree with you — Wilder is live against any HW.

  • Dan James

    Me likey likey! Now that’s what i call matchmaking!

  • Chris Gonzalez

    Props to Wilder if he takes the fight. Lord knows he’s going to need to step up and start defending his belt against live opponents rather than who he’s been fighting his whole career.

  • Gregory Fulton

    Ain’t gonna happen. Another hack article from a guy who got a gift job handed to him. Mike “Tabloid” Coppinger.

  • Bar Kokhba

    Initial feeling is that WIlder’s going to regret ‘seeking out’ this fight.

    But in all fairness to him, I thought the same thing before the Stiverne fight…

    • ceylon mooney

      i got the same attitude about his facin ortiz as i did about stiverne–open minded and curious.

      i wouldnt be surprised if wilder owned him.

  • Al Del

    Can’t wait for this one! hope it ain’t stiverne though.. been there done that!
    I got Ortiz on this one though!

  • Dee Money

    If we see the pre hand injury Wilder- the one who still had awkward footwork but used his jab and height well and took out Stiverne- then Wilder by UD or late stoppage. I just don’t know if that Wilder is still out there.

    Also, I think Ortiz’s age, whatever it actually is, may play a part in it.

    • Left Hook2

      Ortiz might be good…or he might look like a slow plodder like vs Thompson. Wilder might pot shot him all night. Good matchup to answer our questions about these guys.

  • Rick

    Just can’t get excited about any fight with Ortiz in it. He just sort of lumbers around the ring, doing his impression of Muhammad Ali’s impression of George Foreman.

    • D Johnson

      Lol….I kind of see where you’re coming from.

  • Cousin Strawberry ( Cheech)

    Finally the worst heavyweight champion is fighting a ligimate boxer. About time…if it really happens.

    • ceylon mooney

      bottom of the too 15 barrell. its notmlike hes callin out the HW Ashley theophane.

    • BobbyPFalcon

      Until Joshua fought Wlad it is easy to say Wilder had faced better opposition up until that point. And Wlad was 40…

  • ceylon mooney

    he brings better reward than any fighter wilder has faced yet–at least this is one we fans have demanded for a coupla years.

  • Wade Wilson

    To begin with I think Wilder has the belief that he can beat anyone in the planet like a good fighter should. However, he’s shown a lot of glaring flaws that at this point, especially considering his late start, that aren’t likely to be fixed. With that being said do his handlers really want Ortiz? It would be a good payday but nowhere near a fight with Anthony Joshua. Your casual fan may pay attention to an Ortiz fight but a fight with Joshua will get considerable attention even with the non-fans (by that I don’t mean those who don’t like boxing at all) simply because it would be the two top heavyweights, both young with massive power and undefeated, and that always sells well! With Wilder’s flaws do you take the risk of losing that? You can’t count on the dramatic knockout with Ortiz and if he loses he could fall hard in public opinion and it would take a lot to get it back.

    • Floridastorm

      Don’t really think that AJ has massive power. Wilder, yes. AJ has good power. But, his power is very similar to that of Frank Bruno. Not a concussive one punch power but more of a hit you pretty hard a few times power. AJ has very heavy muscles, what we used to call muscle bound in my younger days. A lot of muscle bound fighters look good but don’t really hit that hard. It’s the wiry ones that have that one punch KO power, like Wilder. I would hate to see AJ go up against Wilder. If Vlad put him down and nearly out can’t imagine what Wilder’s punches will do to him. I’m sorry, but I can’t see any of the crop of heavyweights who can weather Wilder’s punching power. It would take a Holyfield or a young Mike Tyson to defeat Wilder, IMO.

      • Wade Wilson

        Wilder has gotten pretty lucky with those shots lately. When he meets a guy who can take his punch, and there’s always someone, what then? I can take from the Stiverne fight that he’s really all that skilled as he got nothing in return and was pretty awkward. I can’t go off of power alone and Wilder has yet to show if he has anything really substantial behind it.

      • Wade Wilson

        Not all. Mike Tyson was called “Mighty Joe Young” in school because of his muscular build. “Muscle Bound” is a condition that comes when you have a muscle imbalance, developing a muscle group without developing the opposite, which can actually become crippling. Doing exercises that don’t bring anything to the party, such as curls and triceps work for a fighter, is a total waste of time and energy but I don’t see that with Joshua. He’s not like Frank Bruno who cared more about how he looked. Anytime I hear people saying a fighter’s got power that no one can take I immediately think of Liston, Foreman, Tyson. That just doesn’t happen. In comparison to Klitshko, Wladamir has been not only an exceptional puncher but was very good delivering his shots. Going down against him and being badly hurt more likely than not will have him harder to take out before. He faced it and passed the test and will probably hhave a mental edge now knowing he can do It.

  • Droeks Malan

    Would be great if this fight happens, will also take care of one of Joshua’s mandatories. We need to see what Wilder does with a top opponent, my guess is he will rise to the occasion.

  • The Parrfection

    “Deontay Wilder is finally set to secure the kind of tough opponent he’s long sought.”

    Am I supposed to take the rest of this article seriously after this abortion of an opener?

    • Orca

      There’s no doubting his record is terrible.

  • Floridastorm

    Have no idea why anyone thinks so highly of Ortiz. IMO, he hasn’t fought anybody. His toughest fight was against Malik Scott who he went 12 rounds with and got the decision. Wilder KO’d Scott in the first round. Does anyone think that Thompson, Jennnings, and Kayode are competition? Wilder is going to put Ortiz away fairly early. Ortiz looks like a tough guy but he’s old and slow. Easy to hit. Wilder is in his prime and hits like a Mule kicks.

  • BobbyPFalcon

    Ortiz is all wrong for Wilder. I see Ortiz knocking him out and Joshua next. That said, I will be impressed if Wilder or Joshua can deal with a fighter with an inside game like Ortiz. He doesn’t get any love but he’s every bit as dangerous as either fighter. This is why I’m glad Wladdy retired – these fights are now getting made.

  • Markus Roland

    Wilder SHOULD beat Ortiz, 38 is too old.

  • ozzy

    Why would Wilder fight Ortiz, in a voluntary defence, if the Cuban is as good as most Stateside boxing fans seem to believe?
    The simple answer is that Wilder realises that Ortiz is currently hugely overrated, as the 2 fights in Europe, against Scott and Allen, showed without a shred of doubt, despite Stateside journalists, such as Mike Coppinger, trying to pretend they didn’t happen!
    If Ortiz was ever as good as the HBO hyperbole suggests, then those 2 fights showed he has declined to a very ordinary level indeed and if he cannot substantially raise his level of performance then I expect Wilder to stop him without a great deal of effort. Consequently, I suspect Wilder feels he can obtain a huge amount of credit from beating an over-hyped opponent who is actually in decline.