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What’s the excuse for not liking Andre Ward now?

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The fight was billed as “No Excuses.”

But after Andre Ward scored an eighth-round TKO over Sergey Kovalev, there were nothing but excuses coming from Team Kovalev. Maybe there were a few punches that drifted below the belt during that final onslaught that caused referee Tony Weeks to stop the fight. But it’s not Ward’s job to stop the action. And, to be completely honest, those questionable punches aren’t what began the demise of Kovalev. It was a right hand that landed clean that put the Russian on shaky legs and began his search for the exit row.

Watch the ending sequence again.

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A right hand from Ward damaged Kovalev and put him in deep trouble. If nothing else, Kovalev’s body language was of a fighter who didn’t want to be there. S.O.G. sought the knockout and hunted his staggered prey. One can argue that the fight could have went longer and Weeks could have halted the action due to what appeared to be a few punches that went astray. But it may have only delayed the inevitable. Furthermore, it’s not Ward’s job to stop the action.

Unfortunately, between Kathy Duva and Team Kovalev’s post-fight rant and the somewhat controversial finish, some will still not give Ward his due. There will be those who are critical of Ward’s performance and won’t give him his due because of what can be deemed as a controversial stoppage.

But THE RING magazine’s No. 1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world scored a knockout over the No. 2 pound-for-pound fighter. There are no questions. Ward is the best fighter alive at this very moment. Whether you like it or not.

No, he hasn’t endeared himself to boxing fans nor has he with the media. He’s not selling out arenas or doing massive pay-per-view numbers. But what he does consistently is win. He took a questionable decision in the first fight against Kovalev and took it out of the hands of the judges in the rematch.

What more can you ask of him?

Do you want him to be more exciting in the ring? More brash outside of it? Maybe he should stop talking about God so much or throw his money at the camera to prove that he has it. Roc Nation should do a better job promoting him, you say? He shouldn’t have engaged in a lawsuit with his promoter nor should he have been injured, which kept him out of the ring for some of his prime years? He shouldn’t be so arrogant?

Ultimately, none of these things are necessarily his fault. His job is to win in the squared circle. His promoter’s job is to promote. Ward stepped up in weight and challenged one of the best fighters in the world in a higher weight class and beat him twice. Roc Nation pays him handsomely for his work ($6.5 million against Kovalev) while not requiring him to step out of character to sell a fight. We want him to be something that he’s not for our entertainment. But that’s not how this works.

During the post-fight press conference, Ward said that he can no longer concern himself with “they.” Whatever “they” say has no bearing on Ward’s paycheck and hasn’t prevented him from winning fights. So why change now?

What’s equally interesting is that Ward is essentially everything that Floyd Mayweather Jr. isn’t outside of the ring. And people despise Mayweather for his personality. But inside the ring they are similar. Both make incremental adjustments throughout the fight and take away their opponent’s best weapon. Neither is known as a knockout puncher but have the ability to put their opponents away when the window opens.

But just like Mayweather, Ward is going to be criticized despite being unbeaten for his entire professional career and bringing home a gold medal for the U.S. at the 2004 Olympics. If he hasn’t now, he’ll never get his due. And, apparently, he’s done trying to appease the masses who question his greatness.

We don’t know what the future holds for Ward. Maybe he squares off with Adonis Stevenson or bumps up another weight class. But, even then, it’s never going to be good enough for a few.

However, on June 17, 2017, Andre Ward stopped one of the most feared fighters in the world. He got the job done, again.

What’s our excuse for not appreciating his greatness now?

  • JGC

    Great article and absolutely true. Only in America would you have such a large contingent of your own countrymen rooting for a Russian fighter over a US Olympic gold medalist. Ward can be arrogant, but he’s generally a classy guy and seems like a decent person. He gave Paul Smith back the money Smith was penalized for coming in overweight during their fight in 2015, but these types of getures are overlooked.

    • WillieSmalls

      I think this sums up how bad race relations are in the US. When I visited NY a few years back, the segregation was alarming. And this is in the supposed cosmopolitan capital of the world. Good riddance to Kovalev, he’ll be a penniless alcoholic in 10 years.

      • Theron Covey

        Please don’t blame it on race. How can we love Crawford and hate Ward if we all are a bunch of racists?

        • ceylon mooney

          thengreat white hops has been a
          myth since cooney. two white HW
          champions for 10 years and americans not only didnt give a shit but we bitched about it constantly.

          • Charlie U.

            For us (Americans) it has to be a white American. If Deontay Wilder were white, he’d be second only to LeBron James in terms of Q rating.

          • ceylon mooney

            man i think if wilder
            were white hed have fewer fans and the folks who dont like him now would bitch about the same shit more.

          • Charlie U.

            I don’t know about that. A lot of racism still in this country. African- American fighters have difficulty gaining interest from the public unless they act outrageously silly like Mayweather. If there was a white heavyweight knocking out every person he faced, I think it’d be a huge deal here. Think Cooney or Tommy Morrison, but with the athleticism and raw skill to be much better than those guys.

          • ceylon mooney

            theres a lotta racism in this country. no doubt.

          • Charlie U.

            You don’t think Wilder would be a bigger name if he was white? I wish it weren’t so but it probably is.

          • ceylon mooney

            definitely not

            white america doesnt care about boxing, white america thinks some russian guy isnthe HW champ or maybe heard that some really
            tall guy beat him.

            even if u stuck another mike tyson into the heavyweights, i still dont think white america would suddenly wakenup and give a damn about boxing.

            back to wilder:
            if he were white, hed be slammed for fighting an endless supple of bums and tomato cans (not my opinion tho) and havin one legit contender on his resume.

            if he were white tomorrow, the legacy arena would not be full of white folks in stead of black folks watching him fight. thered just be fewer people watching. but maybe the novelty
            of a white
            american knockin out nobodies (i so not think this is a fair assessment) would get
            folks interested. i dont think so. i just think fewer black folks would care.

            now his bein from alabama, flyin the flag
            and namin alabama–thats a huge
            deal. boxing aint a sport in alabama (or really anywhere in the south), but it is if deontay is fighting.

            however, if he were white and MMA or black and MMA hed be a household name in among white
            america sports fans.

          • Charlie U.

            Hmm. We’ll have to agree to disagree here. I believe a lot of people would get behind a successful white heavyweight just because he’s white and would be a novelty in the sports world. Pacquiao and Mayweather had tremendous crossover appeal to the average American sports fan of all races and ethnicities. Why wouldn’t a white American heavyweight who is knocking everyone out garner the same attention?

      • Giuseppe

        it has nothing to do with race.

      • Kudos

        Scumbags like you are exactly why people would root for a foreigner. Death by cop coming your way in the future.

    • TNT

      Ward is a class act. I’ve never really taken him for arrogant.

  • Orca

    Wait, has this site been hacked? Is this really an article for Ring magazine? Sorry, it sounds like written one of the fanboys that trolls this place.

    ………..’There are no questions. Ward is the best fighter alive at this very moment. Whether you like it or not.’

    Really? I don’t get an opinion? There’s a couple of guys I rate above him. And not by a little.

    • JGC

      You get an opinion, we all do. My opinion is that the Ring’s P4P list trumps yours, easily.

      • Orca

        If you say so man. My p4p list is just as valid to me as a fan of the sport as The Rings.

        • Col Carter

          Ring’s P4P list has had little credibility for the past couple of years as well as their ratings in some divisions. Last year Ward was #4 on the P4P list but #5 in the LHW ratings. How is that even possible? Four guys in your division are ranked above you but only three in the entire world. LOL

          • JV316

            he fought at 168 before, it’s actually pretty simple

          • Col Carter

            The #4 P4P rating was in 2016 when he was fighting at LHW. He hadn’t fought at 168 since 2013. That’s not simple, that’s ridiculous.

          • JV316

            i think for p4p they take into account the totality of the resume regardless of the weights you fought at (for example choco was still at #1 even though he had just recently moved to 115, i think…and that’s why there are 2 guys above him in the 115 ratings but he’s still #3 in the p4p ratings), your rating in a particular weight class is only based on your record in that weight class

          • Col Carter

            Ward had a win over Paul Smith and Barrera when he was placed at #5 in the LHW ratings…that’s it. Two wins over two average guys after being inactive and unranked for a considerable amount of time, e.g. one fight in 2012, one in 2013, and none in 2014. From the time he won the “tournament” in 2011 until Ring placed in at #4 P4P in 2016, a period of 5 years, Ward fought Dawson, Rodriquez, Smith, and Barrera. He went from not being rated at all to #4 with that resume.

          • JV316

            where does it say you are limited in how far back you can go in judging a guy’s resume? and looks like the ring was proven right in their assessment, because ward is now ring champ at 175 and #1 p4p just a year later….maybe there’s a little guesswork when you have to rate guys who have dropped out of the ratings for various reasons but with a guy as good as ward you have to put him somewhere and then let the fighters fight it out…it’s not like they put him above kovalev or stevenson, if they had done that then i would understand a complaint

          • Col Carter

            After two fights at LHW following a long lay off I don’t agree that they “had” to put him anywhere While he was not doing anything, others were putting their records, and their health, on the line and continuing to fight. Ratings and rankings impact who fights whom and what guys get paid. I’ll just say I think it’s unfair to rate a guy coming off a long layoff above active guys. That’s just the way I see it. The put him above every other fighter in the world except three. That’s unfair to the other fighters and shows bias, favoritism, and lack of objectivity, in my opinion. Ring putting him at #1 after his last two very questionable verdicts has the same lack of credibility, to me, as putting him at #4 last year. He is far from the best fighter in the game. If he really was the best, people would be clamoring to see him ply his trade but they’re not. The problem is how he applies it. Even during the tournament people talked more about his holding, grappling, wrestling, head butting, use of forearms, and low blows than they did about his skills. All that has now evolved and became his “inside game”. He’s a tough, fit, guy who comes to win and win he does by any measures he can apply. The best fighter in world??? I don’t think so.

          • JV316

            a TKO isn’t a questionable verdict buddy. and ward has earned his p4p status by resume, not by trying to please a segment of the boxing fanbase aesthetically. i didn’t realize there were so many diva boxing fans who will only credit a guy if he both wins and wins in a style that they prefer. and if you have some example of a guy rated below ward when they put him at 5 who had a better win at LHW than ward’s win over sullivan barrerra please let me know who that was.

          • Col Carter

            A TKO is controversial when it can be attributed to fouls. Just as Rigo’s KO of Flores was ruled a KO at first, it is now going to be overturned. Flores was out but it was done on a foul. That’s how controversies work. I didn’t see the fight Saturday night. I have only read reports of what happened and seen several clips of the ending. I purposely didn’t buy it because I knew it was going to be a mess. That’s just the type of fighter Ward is…he’s a mess maker inside the ring. When I say controversial I am echoing what I have seen and heard credible people say so take that for what it’s worth. Similar to the first fight in November when Ward got the decision 75% of “experts”, former boxers, boxers, and commentators scored the fight for Kovalev as I did. I thought he won comfortably. Now, controversy reigns again due to the claims of low blows and Weeks stopping the fight too soon. Even Paulie Malignaggi, who is a big Ward fan and thought Ward won the first fight, threw the BS flag on the stoppage. It’s not that people only credit a guy who wins in a fashion they prefer. Most people just like, fair, clean cut victories.

          • JV316

            you should definitely watch the fight man, even if ward isn’t your cup of tea i think you’ll find it interesting. a lot of your perception of the fight will depend on if you think a couple of shots ward landed in the 7th and early in the 8th (right before ward stunned kovalev with a right over the top that buckled his legs) were low or legal. i think they were legal shots on the belt line but some people seem to think they were low although i have no idea what they are basing that on given the video evidence and the ref’s statement to kovalev during the prefight instructions that shots on the belt line were legal. whether the stoppage was early or not is a little more murky, i was ok with it because to me kovalev was done and looking for a way out even in the 7th round (roy jones even predicted it during that round). some think it should not have been stopped when it was because the last shot (or 2, or 3) ward landed was low (kovalev was bending over as ward was relentlessly trying to dig to the body after the right that stunned him). to me, kovalev was done and people are clinging to the last couple of shots being low as an excuse. but maybe you will think they were decisive.

          • Col Carter

            It will be on next week and if I get back in town early enough I’ll give it a look.

          • Mauro Hermida

            They put Broner on their list not long ago. And they have Crawford and Loma up pretty high too when they do not have deep resumes. The Ring panel does at times rate fighters based on ability or potential. Chocolatito belongs at the top. Wards resume is crap compared to his over the last few years. Great, he beat Kovalev in the rematch. He definitely lost the first fight though. Winning a shitty decision doesn’t change that. He should have been completely removed from the list and then possibly gotten back onto it after the rematch victory, BUT at the bottom.

          • Col Carter

            I agree that Gonzales should be at the top. But, I also believe that Crawford and Loma belong on the list. They are two very exceptional fighters…in my opinion. Ward, on the other hand, is not an exceptional fighter. He just gets by with a lot
            of things and has always been looked at as a dirty fighter more so than an exceptional fighter. Again, that is what I see. Also, Ward is on the list based on what he did from 2009-2011. He fought and beat some pretty good guys in Froch and Kessler. However, there are a lot of guys who would be on the list if the were judged on their performance from 6-8 years ago…including Froch and Kessler. LOL Ward has defeated Smith, Barrera, and Brand since 2013. Three guys who are far from exceptional. He now has two very controversial “wins” over Kovalev. It could be easily argued that he lost most of the rounds he fought against Kovalev and he definitely lost the first fight.

          • Mauro Hermida

            The little guys don’t get much respect. That is a big truth that gets overlooked by fans. Especially little guys not from the US. I would put Inoue above both Loma and Crawford. He won two titles in two divisions at a very young age. The second title being a move up to fight the man at 115 and blowing him out. He jumped two divisions too. His resume is better, not by a lot, but better. But he is Japanese and fights overseas, so not a ton of love. Still, glad he is on the list. Crawfords resume is ok to me, Postol(who I don’t consider being very good) and Burns being his best victories. 140 is pretty weak to me, so cannot blame him for that. When he moves up to 147, then it will be easier to rate him because he will be in against guys his size. He is a middleweight come fight night. Lomachenkos best opponent was an L. Sure they are both really talented, but I don’t rate them that high yet.

          • Col Carter

            Anything below 126 is largely ignored.

          • Mauro Hermida

            Which is why it speaks volumes to see Gonzalez getting that love. If he was a welterweight, we would be calling him great and best of era. Its a shame. The most skilled dudes I see are always the little fellas.

        • JV316

          well the ring skews more to resume, which it the better standard for the p4p list, as opposed to your “eye test” on who is better. and of course you’re on record as just not liking ward, forgive me if i pay more attention to the ring’s ratings than yours

          • Orca

            Sure thing boss.

          • Da True GOAT

            Hey can I see your p4p list? Just top 3 or 5. I’ll show you mine if you show me yours.

          • Eric Gelmete

            1 WARD
            2 GGG
            3.LOMO

          • JV316

            thank you

        • Cashtime

          YOUR p4p list heh heh. You really think you matter?

          • Orca

            Yawn. Must try harder troll.

      • ceylon mooney

        eh, gonzales should still be #1. his lopsided victory against rungsvai shouldnt benheld against him because of rigged judging. but ward at #1 or #2 is fair game. kovalev maybe at 3.

        • TommaT

          You are so right mate, Chocolatito completely won that fight, really good fight, but he won it by a mile and in my eyes is still the P4P number one. If the Ring ratings want to keep credibility go on performance not dodgy decisions.

          • ceylon mooney

            yea, i feel u there. but i gotta accept that rings joirnalism is second to its job to support, normalize and
            validate the very business of boxing.

        • Eric Gelmete

          HE LOST SO HOW CAN HE BE CONSIDERED THE BEST P4P FIGHTER RIGHT NOW…..AND THAT WAS CLOSE FIGHT, WHY DO YOU ALL KEEP STATING ROBBERY WHEN THE FIGHT IS CLOSE, I GUESS WE ALL HAVE AN OPINION , I WISH EVERYONE HAD A CLEAR BRAIN.

          • ceylon mooney

            according to the criteria for scoring professional boxing, the fight wasnt close at all. by the criteria for scoring a professional boxing match, it was 9-3 or 10-2 gonzales with a 10-8 round for rungsvai. thats not close at all. the judges gave
            the decision to the guy who lost by a WIDE
            margin. it was such a robbery the a rematch was ordered. u really dint notice any of this?

    • Park

      I couldn’t believe what I was reading either. Pure propaganda.

    • Ain’t no dinos in Holy books

      The Ring praises tactical fouling as an art form. Sad.

    • disqus_EewaFe3EB6

      I think he meant “active”. Not even ward himself would think he’s the best fighter alive

    • Cashtime

      Too bad you don’t own this magazine or anything worthwhile for that matter. Yet like a loud mouth stupid kid in the back of the classroom you try so hard to get all the attention. Create something of your own before mocking the Ring magazine and maybe you’ll get upvotes from mature people instead of the losers who stick to you like shit

      • Orca

        I’ve been reading ring magazine for 26 years sunshine. Not mocking the magazine, I’m mocking this poor excuse for boxing journalism. Sorry everyone doesn’t agree with your opinion man. Life’s tough right?

  • Mitchell Nelms

    Ward is headbutts and shoulders above the rest… Unless it’s a beltline.

    • maxx

      LOL, very well put Mitch.Kudos

      • Harry

        I’ve never held Kovalev and Ward as top P4P fighters. As for Kovalev I
        would not have him even in the top 10 of the P4P list and Ward is just
        an insecure bastard who cannot beat any good fighter cleanly. He was
        clearly to be DQ-ed for his repeated headbutting of Kessler instead of
        having his hand raised. Kovalev’s best wins are against slow Cleverly
        who does not have power, a former 168-lb short-handed fighter in Pascal
        and a 49-year-old former MW Bernard. And the fact that Ward could not
        beat this prick clean already shows how limited he is. I am not
        trolling. Kovalev turned pro after he was beaten by Beterbiev, koed by
        Abbos Atoev and realized he did not have enough skills to win anything
        in amateur ranks. By the way, Ward was beaten badly by Utribek Haydarov
        in the Olympic quarter-finals. That Uzbek fighter dropped him three
        times, but the ref ruled it a slip despite the fact that slow reviews
        clearly indicated that these were clear KDs (in headgear!). Already then
        he was the Son of Judges. He could not beat Kessler legally; that’s why
        he headbutted him repeatedly, but instead of being disqualified he had
        his hand raised. In the Kovalev rematch he resorted to dirty tactics
        again, despite Kovalev being a very flawed boxer on the whole. My Top
        P4P list can be flawed, but it is more or less fair: 1. Loma, 2. GGG, 3.
        Crawford, 4. Joshua, 5. Gonzalez, 6. Ward, 7. Canelo, 8. Yamanaka, 9.
        Inoue, 10. Beterbiev (he’s the future of LHW).

        • Kudos

          Citing amateur defeats is retarded. Why not cite the amateur fights Joshua lost?

          • Randall Bannister

            He lost to Salido as pro. I think that’s what he’s alluding to….

          • Kudos

            He started bringing up defeats Kovalev had in the amateurs.

          • Randall Bannister

            Oh. I thought y’all talking bout Loma. Apologies. ::Retreats back to the hole I came from::

        • maxx

          We can both agree on one thing Loma is number 1.Kudos

          • AKA

            Loma is a great white hope with an L on his record.

          • Kudos

            Great whitehouse doesn’t apply to non U.S fighters u cunt

          • Ace Ace

            FOH. Ward has a much better resume the Lomachenko

    • Da True GOAT

      L.

      • Mitchell Nelms

        …lort

  • Larry Connor

    Wow!!!!! Great article and very true!!!!

  • Larry Connor

    No matter what, there will always be those that just don’t like Ward no matter the situation.

  • Dee Money

    I’ve been a Ward fan for a while, but he is a defensive fighter who is not ultra fast, and doesnt have a lot of KOs; and those guys NEVER get any respect or much love from the fans.

    I agree with the assertion that the HBO team made before the fight, Ward has the best P4P resume; but if we were somehow able to balance things out P4P I think Lomachenko would win. No offense to Ward, he is a future HOFer and deservedly so, I just think Loma ends up being a future possible top 15 ATG type guy, and he’s closer to prime right now.

    Side note, Kovalev dropped down to 7 on the ring P4P list. How cool would it be to see him try to jump up to Cruiser and get into the World Boxing Super Series? Go dominate a new division.

    • Kevin Perry

      This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have read in some time…Loma potentially top 15 all-time? Get your head out of the sand. He’s a great fighter right now, but his best wins are over Walters and Russell. He already has a loss on his record. He’s a great talent, but lets get real. If Lomackenko moves all the way up to 154 and wins titles like Pacquaio was able to do then you might have an argument. The guy has had like ten fights. So many fans jump on the bandwagon of some so-called journalists they follow on twitter. Lomachenko is good fighter but I don’t even think he can beat Mikey Garcia.

      • Dee Money

        When Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Robinson first started fighting were they potentially top 15 atg? At what point is it okay to think that someone, who is generally regarded as one of the best fighters at the time, might end up being an ATG?

        Can we only think that AFTER they have reached that status? Or are we capable of evaluating someone’s talent and projecting?

        I never wrote that he is currently an ATG, that if he retired right now he would be. Rather in my eyes he fights like one, and if he continues to do so he will be regarded as one.

  • Stephen M

    The author asks two very different questions: 1-WHAT’S THE EXCUSE FOR NOT LIKING ANDRE WARD NOW? The answer to that is: I don’t need an excuse but I have a couple of reasons. His boxing style and his personality, in that order. 2- What’s our excuse for not appreciating his greatness now? The answer to that is that I do recognize his ability but his style stinks so why do I have to appreciate it? Strangely, I enjoyed watching Bernard Hopkins and I enjoy watching Rigondeaux. I don’t enjoy watching Ward and I didn’t enjoy watching Floyd.

  • Chris Stans

    Ward as a whole gives me very mixed feelings. His fighting style is full of everything I hate in boxing, grappling and fouls but I won’t say that he isn’t skilled in using it. Also personality wise he seems like both a good person and an arrogant one in equal measure. How a man can bring god into everything and still cheat so blatantly makes me wonder how much of his piety is based arround pretension

    • J rock

      Are you fukin kidding me with this post? Gtfoh

      • Chris Stans

        Did I hurt your feelings darling? Next time I’ll try not to insult your sugar daddy, I know how delicate you are

        • J rock

          It’s just a dumb ass post. Ward isn’t even my favorite fighter. But to question his piety because you don’t like the way he fights, has got to be the most retarded thing I have ever read on here.

          • Chris Stans

            That’s not the only reason. If you weren’t deprived of oxygen at birth u would have noticed that I believe him to be an arrogant ass. He also seems very petty at times. He single handedly carried a beef with golovkin all through last year.

          • J rock

            Look kid, I’m not going to argue with a 12 year old. You just claimed his style of fighting makes you question his piety. That is just moronic. You haven’t seen anything inside or outside the ring to make you question his faith. Maybe it’s your lack of piety that makes you jealous of the dude.

          • Chris Stans

            You seem offended. Have I offended you? Would u like me to help u find a place where u can hide from other people’s opinions

          • J rock

            I’m not offended. Are you offended by me making your opinion seem trite?

          • Chris Stans

            I’d like to inform u that being belligerent doesn’t make the other persons opinion seem invalid. This may sadden u to hear but u can’t browbeat people into changing their belief. I think your daddy Ward is a fake

            Edit: you misused trite btw

          • J rock

            You can have a dumb opinion. That is your right. I’m not trying to make you a fan of the guy. I could care less. I’m reading comments, yours was the dumbest, so I pointed it out. You responded with queer shit and that’s that.

          • Chris Stans

            nah keep going. I wanna see how long u can throw a tantrum

          • J rock

            Trite….meaning I have heard many times people bashing or doubting his faith.

            It’s common it’s overused it’s trite

          • Chris the trite

            If my comment was cliche then why did u explode like I said the most novel thing ever? U must be hearing it all the time right?

          • Johnny Albo

            if no one else is gonna say it i’ll say it, yes i question his faith when he punches someone in the balls. a man of god doesnt go for the balls. lmao.

          • Cashtime

            Oh wow and you walk on water
            Just focus on your own faults before judging everyone else you may discover that your the biggest hypocrite of all

          • DougWilsonFan

            Nope, he used trite correctly. Insignificant or meaningless

          • Chris the trite

            Trite means unoriginal. But if my comment were cliche, why did he act like I’d said the craziest thing ever?

          • DougWilsonFan

            I think he was having trouble with piety being questioned as a result of boxing style. I am not a big Ward fan but all I have read indicates he’s a good man, And I think you are right on trite, just looked it up but it can also mean overused. My definition was wrong

          • Da True GOAT

            Haha bruh don’t feed this troll. What you said is true. Nevermind this lowlife. This guy lost a huge bet and is on troll mode.

          • Don Badowski

            His fighting style (cheat) vs his piety. And answer is simple gentlemen. He’s a phony when it comes to his God talk. He would not be the first, and he sure as Hell won’t be the last.

          • Eric Gelmete

            YOU SOUND CRAZY, EVEN STUPID, GO TAKE YOUR MEDS AND SHUT IT

          • Kudos

            Stop writing in capitals like a retard

          • Don Badowski

            Yes Eric. I get that a lot. Always from the same type of guys who can’t discuss on the basis of facts, and need to deflect.
            You might want to clean your keyboard. It appears the CapsLock key is stuck.

          • Cashtime

            You smell like a sore loser

          • Don Badowski

            And you sound like a Donald Trump apologist. Nice work it you can get it.

          • Eric Gelmete

            NOT WORTH THE ENERGY TO TYPE THE WORDS, THESE DUDES ARE BUTT HURT, WARD GOT A T.K.O. ON THE KRUSHER, OHH NO IM SORRY THE KRUSHER DIDNT SHOW UP…….SMFH

          • N C

            i myself question his piety due to his pride, avarice and vanity. when he openly commits 3 out of 7 deadly sins its hard to claim that he is in fact a pious man. oh, plus the heresy of calling himself the ‘son of god’

          • Eric Gelmete

            HE IS A MILLIONAIR WHO TAKES CARE OF HIS FAMILY….SO FUK WHAT YOU THINK…..OHH I FORGOT YOU THINK KOV WON THE 1ST ONE, LOL……
            AND STILLLLLLLLLLL ANDRE S.O.G. WARD BY T.K.O. IMAGINE THAT……LOL

    • Arjay Cee

      Don’t preach about god and then punch a guy in the balls

      Your theology is not recognized by the S.O.G., Chris.

      The Son of Gonads answers to a higher power!

    • Don Badowski

      He also gets his way in negotiations, and refs just love to look the other way. Not just with Kovalev. Kessler was another one.

      • Eric Gelmete

        WOW HUH, MAD AT WARD HUH, HE BEAT YOUR HERO, KOV COULDNT DEAL WITH WARDS POWER, IMAGINE THAT HUH…. THOUGHT WARD HIT LIKE GIRL IS WAT KOV SAID, BET THAT RIGHT HAND WAS NO GIRL PUNCH, HAD KOV DANCING A DIFFERENT TUNE, RUNNING FOR COVER, NOW YOU CAN GO BACK TO BASHING WARD, OHH AND KOV IS 2 FIGHT DOWN TO THE S.O.G. LOL……..KEEP HATING, ITS WORTH IT WHEN YOUR JUST WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG….

        • Don Badowski

          So you agree that Ward should be allowed to cheat. Got it. I’m recording your vote under Sport Killer. That’s for playing long Eric. And I hope you get to meet your hero someday. I suggest you wear a cup. And thanks for typing in all caps. I know people are serious when they type in all caps. You must be a Triple G fan, the way you spell Wrong.

          • Ace Ace

            Ward isn’t a cheater, he just does what’s necessary to win.

        • Kudos

          Kovalev won the first fight. Biased black ref helped Ward.

      • Ace Ace

        Those were body shots not low blows.Look at it in slow motion.He beat the shit out of Kessler.

  • Jay

    He’s black. Ring readers are mostly white and hispanic. There has always been a race issue in boxing. The ring seems like the fox news of boxing at times.

    • J rock

      Pretty much

    • Steve Coleman

      no doubt, you can predict what will be in the comments before you even read them.

    • Stephen M

      Fuck you!

    • Theron Covey

      My favorite fighters are Marquez, Crawford, and GGG. I guess I must be racist for hating Ward.

    • maxx

      Their are shit loads of generalisations in you statement dude.

    • ceylon mooney

      and forever theyve
      bitched about the ultra-white klitschko brothers but had crazy madd luv for thurman, hagler, crawford, el chino, inoue, whitaker…

    • David Telfer

      If in doubt, play the race card. Pathetic.

      • Jay

        Denying that racism exists is the new racism.

  • Steve Coleman

    Agree with everything said in this article. Ward continues to win on the highest level fighting the best opponents available. It’s that simple, like or no like. Not liking his style is one thing, but it is very effective. Many thought that Kovalev would run through him. That didn’t happen in either of their fights. Now some people are even angrier that Ward has won, blaming judges, refs and everything they can. ‘No Excuses’ was a good title for this fight, but excuses is all that I’ve been reading since the fight ended.

    • Kevin Perry

      So true…never seen a fighter so hated for just doing his job. The guy gets criticized for putting his own personal interest and family first. He thought he was getting cheated by his promoter so he files a lawsuit. Gets criticized. gets out of the contract and signs a huge deal with Roc Nation…gets criticized, when the only people who should be criticized are Roc Nation for not promoting him and paying him tot much money. Guy wins fight after fight, but people complain, but in reality the job of fighter is to fight…If people perceive he is a dirty fighter then it’s the job of the officials to do their job. I see other fighters flirt with the rules(Hopkins and Salido for example) and are lauded for it. I’m not sure what it is, but I think part of the problem is that many boxing journalists and people in the business create a BS narrative and the public and fans run with it.

      • Nixtradamus

        Very true!

      • Steve Coleman

        Right, Maidana and others fight somewhat dirty (at the least, bending the rules) and they are loved for it. Cats like Salido are ‘tough’ and ‘hard-nosed veterans’ for doing the same thing. Even past fighters like Marciano bent the rules and did what it took to win. Ward is basically in the BHop mode of fighting. This is boxing, you need to be able to deal with different styles to succeed, to be able to adjust. Besides, Kovalev has shown in his last 3 fights against Chilemba and Ward a tendency to fade in the later rounds. He’s a frontrunner that has trouble finishing fighters if he can’t knock them out. Ward’s body shots (in both fights) simply exposed his conditioning even more. The overtraining and low blow excuses are just that, excuses. All those headlocks, rabbit punches and elbows are not exactly legal either, but as Ricky Hatton (another beloved rough fighter who bent the rules) used to say, it’s not a tickling contest.

        • Mauro Hermida

          With Maidana, he throws 800 shots and KOs most that have faced him. Hard to call a guy dirty when he is that active. He really would not have time to do a lot of holding and then throwing that often. I don’t see it. I have seen plenty of his fights and he is NOT as dirty as Ward, nor does he spend his time grappling instead of throwing shots. In fact, he isn’t a dirty fighter. He isn’t a grappler nor a headbutter, nor does he try to bang at a guys nuts.

          • Steve Coleman

            OK, that’s your opinion. I saw Maidana rabbit punch Floyd and hit him in the nuts, you see a clean fighter. No problem. And I like Maidana and Floyd, just calling it as I see it. We can agree to disagree.

      • Arjay Cee

        Let me drop some knowledge on you, Kevin. Ward didn’t simply “get criticized” for his half-assed lawsuit against Dan Goossen. He got laughed out of court, twice. As he deserved to be for his treachery.

        He’s only out of his old contract today because the man died.

    • Giuseppe

      I’d say there is something seriously wrong when fans can’t appreciate a boxer like ward, who – like hopkins, duran, maidana (or whomever) do whatever it takes to win. Headbuttin’ Holyfield was a dirty figher. Great (truly great) but truly filthy in the ring sometimes. So what? This is a fight. guy butts, you, then you butt him. Kov really has crumbled under the physical and mental strain. Ward bullied him and pissed his pants a little.

      • Mauro Hermida

        Most of Holyfields fights were not of the headbutt variety, nor did he just grapple away. He let his hands go and tried to get you out of there, which is why he is respected.

        • Giuseppe

          he used his beautiful dome plenty.

          on saturday night i thought ward let his hands go plenty. and when he wobbled kov with that right smash he went for the kill. cant ask for more than that.

          • Mauro Hermida

            How many total punches did he throw? Was it more than 30 a round?

    • David Telfer

      “Ward continues to win on the highest level fighting the best opponents available”.

      Remind me who he’s fought again in the last 5/6 years?

      • Orca

        Kovalev twice and……crickets…….

        • Mauro Hermida

          He should have taken an L for the first fight. So he has fought just one legit dude in years, has a 1-1 record against him(in most fans eyes he lost) and that makes him a great?? Ok.

          • Steve Coleman

            Ward officially beat Kovalev the first time. ‘Some’ fans though Kovalev won, others thought Ward won (I thought Kovalev probably edged it, but it was a very close fight). Kovalev wanted a rematch to set the record straight – and this last fight was called “No Excuses”. Before this fight, Kovalev said he was going to end Ward’s career, and Ward hit like a teenage girl and never hurt him. When Hunter said pre-fight that he trained Ward to stop Kovalev, Kovalev laughed at him. After this fight, Kovalev was asked point blank was he hurt, he would not answer the question directly. But we all saw him not only get hurt, but look for a way out of the fight. When the fight was stopped Kovalev did not complain. On the undercard we saw what it looks like when a fighter Tramaine Williams vs. Christopher Martin) wants to continue after it’s stopped. Don’t know if you saw it but Martin after getting pounded around the ring and the fight was stopped, instantly protested that he was not hurt.

    • TNT

      I’ve seen few “excuses.” There are many descriptions about what took place though. Still, Ward found a way to win. Ultimately that is boxing. All the greats do it. Ward has done it. If this trend continues he can find himself in ATG discussions.

      • Steve Coleman

        Are you serious? “I overtrained” – “I overestimated Ward” (first fight), then you hire a conditioning coach (even though you claim you overtrained the first time, and now you are training even more) and you in the next fight. Why? Because it was the body shots that gassed you in the first place, just like Spence’s body shots are the reason Kell Brook gassed in the later rounds, that’s what body shots do. So what is it this time? Did you undertrain and underestimate Ward? You said Ward hit like a girl and never hurt you, so there is really no reason to train that hard. Besides a great jab, Kovalev really didn’t have much going. About the last round, everyone is talking about the Ward right hand in rd 8 that started Kovalev’s downfall, but there was a combination to the body (right on the belt) that folded Kovalev in half a little before the right hand, and that is when I thought that Kovalev was ready to give up. The body shots opened Kovalev up for the head shots. Kovalev was done, his body language was that of a defeated fighter. “No Excuses” – Who’s next?

        • TNT

          I should have been clear that I see few fans making excuses surrounding this fight. In both of our previous posts, I believed we were addressing the fans but now I see that you were alluding to Kovalev’s camp. Fair enough.

  • Kevin Perry

    Ring’s pound for pound list is horseshit to me. They got Gonzalez as # 3 yet he just lost his last fight. It wasn’t a robbery like they claim. It was a close fight and the other guy in my view deserved the nod. You can’t just pick and chose what results to recognize. He lost his title against a good but arguably unknown challenger. Their number 9 fighter hans’t beaten anyone most people recognize…At the very least Keith Thurman(not a huge fan) should be in there. I know there is a west coast or American bias, but some of these japanese guys fight mid-level challengers and all of a sudden they are pound for pound….come on. I guess I have a bias against the lower weight fighters….the competition just isn’t there.

    • ceylon mooney

      according to the criteria formscoring professional boxing, gonzales won his last fight 9-3 or 10-2.

    • TommaT

      I just rewatched the Gonzalez fight against the Thai Rungvisai, sorry but Chocolatito obviously won it, a really good fight but a wrong decision, still deserves his P4P spot if not higher

  • J rock

    Kovalev was as mentally weak as Ward said he was. Kovalev can dish but he can’t take.

  • John Newman

    I paid the Ring so they can publish this garbage?!

    Here’s a short list for not appreciating Andre Ward’s ‘greatness’: He’s not an entertaining fighter, his tactics are not on the level of great champions, he’s very hard to listen to or take seriously, and he’s yet to beat a lock hall of fame fighter.

    • J rock

      You give Kovalev points for beating a faded Hopkins? What HOF’s are in his weight class that he ducked or you wanted him to fight?

      • John Newman

        I’ll give him credit for the win, but I don’t know if it brings Kovalev much closer to HoF level (I’d say the same for Joe Smith Jr).

        • J rock

          Fair enough. But again, what HOF is there available for him to fight? You can’t hold that against him. He beat maybe the most feared man in the sport twice. He has cleaned out two divisions with ease. And he is still truckin.

          • John Newman

            That’s true, but it’s just as true for a number of other fighters. Ward has missed chances to fight some legit fighters over his career because he didn’t want to travel or take less money than he deserved. I don’t fault him for that. It makes him a better businessman, but not a better fighter.

          • John Newman

            The only lock hall of fame fighter that Ward could have fought at this point in his career is Joe Calzaghe. The only place that fight would have made enough money to justify Ward taking the risk would have been Wales, and Ward has refused to travel for his big fights. He was also probably a little to young to fight Calzaghe when it would have made the most sense (but it would have been a hell of a scrap).

          • Rick

            He’s hardly cleaned out LH.

          • Mauro Hermida

            Beating Kovalev once and some fringe fighters is not cleaning out the division.

        • Nixtradamus

          Froch, Abrams, Kovalev, Miranda, Green, Bika, Kessler, Dawson, Barrera, Ravelo, etc., is a perfectly good resume.

          He could add GGG if GGG ever develops the balls to come up in weight (as all great do) in search of Bigger challenges and bigger paydays…

          • John Newman

            Golovkin would make less for a Ward fight than his last three or four fights. (Ask Kovalev about making money fighting Ward.) Ward does not represent an increase in pay for anyone except some of the new names in his own division.

          • Nixtradamus

            Ward makes more money than GGG!

            That’s why GGG was begging Canelo for a fight…but why wouldn’t a GGG-Ward fight be a big one? Isn’t GGG a ‘star’ in his own right?

          • John Newman

            If Ward makes more money than GGG, it’s because Rock Nation is willing to take a loss on his fights in order to pay him his guarantees. I won’t argue that Ward doesn’t earn his money (he clearly does), but he is not enough of a draw to justify $5 million a fight. Ward makes more than a lot of boxers because he has contracted for that money. Ward’s opponents do not make much money at all. If any opponent, apart from Canelo (or perhaps GGG, but I doubt it), made the same financial demands to fight Ward as Ward makes to fight anyone, he’d never sign a fight. In both fights with Ward, Kovalev’s biggest loss was to his wallet, not his record.

          • Nixtradamus

            But then again, Ward got 6.5 millions for his last fight. Golovkin earned 2.5, less than half. Why?

            Why are promoters willing to pay Ward more than Golovkin? There has to be a rational explanation for a ‘star’ like Golovkin not making ‘star’ money, right? Why can Ward demand more money but Golovkin can’t?

            I’ll tell you why: because GGG is not as popular as his followers claim. As simple as that – very few people outside hard-core boxing circles have heard about GGG. And yes, Ward is not very popular himself, but the fact is he has had a much more productive career than GGG in terms of money and wins against recognizable opponents.

            I personally like GGG a lot – the guy is a very good boxer who comes to fight, and that’s the most we can ask of any fighter. But his resume is almost empty and that’s why he does not make great money. Ward’s resume is much better, but his boxing style is far less exciting than GGG’s – and that’s the reason he is not making ‘superstar’ money.

            That’s the truth.

          • John Newman

            I don’t know if I’d go that far. Ward makes more guaranteed money (up front) than Golovkin, but we don’t know what GGG makes after all the money is counted. Ward doesn’t make a dime of the PPV or house money, and doesn’t see his earnings increase after the fight. That’s why he doesn’t work more than he has to promoting or ‘selling’ his fights. Again, it’s his prerogative (and it certainly makes him an excellent businessman). GGG always (to my knowledge) has parts of his contract that include percentages of PPV, screening, and ticket sales, and he sells out his fights and does better PPV numbers than Ward, so he might end up with more money after it’s all in the bank (especially when you consider his international broadcasting numbers, which are not included in PPV sales).

          • Jim

            Why is a great question on how Ward got 6.5 million. Seriously why? What the hell was Roc thinking? The last fight did 165k buys and they did nothing to promote this rematch outside of boxing circles. There is no reason to suspect this one to do over 200k buys and I honestly would not be surprised if it does less than the first. This fight was overshadowed by the Mayweather exhibition announcement. And where does Ward go from here? Great for him getting this money from the Roc but where or how is the Roc every going to make this money back?

          • Rick

            There’s only 1 promoter that’s willing to pay Ward that kind of money and its pretty obvious it’s because they aren’t all that good or experienced at promoting boxing. No other boxing promoter would pay him even half that much.

          • ceylon mooney

            ward barely generates any income, but hes heavily subsidized by roc nation.

          • Jim

            GGG begged for the Canelo fight because that is the biggest money fight he could get. Being in that fight can make him an actual PPV star because it will have 900k buys. A fight against Ward will have 140k buys.

          • ceylon mooney

            when did golovkin beg alvarez?

          • Dee Money

            I get what you are saying, but there have been great fighters who never went up in weight: Hagler, Monzon, Pryor to name a few.

            Just because someone finds a weight class that fits them doesnt mean they should be downgraded

          • Nixtradamus

            Those fighters fought great fighters in their own weight class – but that’s not the case with GGG or Hopkins, for example, whose best ‘names’ are much smaller fighters.

          • ceylon mooney

            golovkin fights bigger fighters. even when brook went up, golovkin was
            still lighter and smaller every step of the way.

        • John Newman

          He’s had a good career, no doubt (and his resume reflects it), but cleaning out 168 right after the (arguably) best fighter in the history of the division retires makes it somewhat less impressive. (There’s a reason the Super6 was possible.) Right now his best win is Mikkel Kessler. I think he’s headed to the HoF, but I don’t think he’s done enough to be p4p number one right now and I can’t justify paying money to watch him ply his craft. I do respect that he wouldn’t ask me to.

    • JV316

      pretty sure froch is a lock hall of famer, bunch of great wins and only lost to ward and close loss to kessler which he avenged

      • John Newman

        I hope the Cobra gets into the Canastota. But if he does, it’ll be after a (deserved) wait or on the strength of his drawing power as a British star. How can a boxer be a lock for the Hall of Fame when he was never even the best boxer in the only division in which he ever held a belt? He’s deserving, but he’s no lock, not by a long shot.

        • JV316

          i think you’re right in your description of froch but seems like the HOF has a broader net, based on the other guys who have gotten in i can’t see how froch doesn’t make it, he was pretty much willing to fight anyone in an era that is lacking that

        • Giuseppe

          if Gatti is in, Froch is in!

          • John Newman

            Gatti is in for his history as one of the most entertaining fighters of his generation. Froch hopefully will get in, but he isn’t on Gatti’s level in that regard (Froch has maybe one round of the year to his name, if that). http://grantland.com/the-triangle/does-arturo-gatti-belong-in-the-boxing-hall-of-fame/

          • Giuseppe

            just pointing out that its about more than the record or being the best. So i sort of agree with you!

    • Giuseppe

      you didn’t find him emtertaining against Kov? that’s a genuine question. He beat him up!

      • John Newman

        I did not, I’d be happy to watch Ward fight if the referee kept him from grappling and wrestling. I don’t believe I’d pay for it though. For my money, Ward is not a PPV fighter.

        • Giuseppe

          thats fair enough. i hate the PPV model anyway. We already pay more for TV than should be the case.

  • Nixtradamus

    Ward is the second best fighter of the last 20 years, first place belonging to Floyd Mayweather, one of the best ever.

    • J rock

      Mayweather? Lmao

      • Nixtradamus

        Remember how small all those big-name fighters looked against Floyd?

        Pacquiao, Canelo, Marquez, Ruelas, Hernandez, DeLa Hoya, Mosley, Hatton, Manfreddy, Cotto, Victor Ortiz, Maidana, Castillo, Judah, Castillo, Corley, Corrales, Gatti, Gerena, Jukko, Berto, Mitchell…

        Nobody in the history of boxing has a better resume or has fought and defeated so many world champions.

        It’s pretty silly to deny Mayweather’s absolute mastery of boxing.

        • disqus_EewaFe3EB6

          “all he did was run and hug”

    • Dee Money

      I think you gotta put Pacquiao ahead of Ward too, at least so far.

  • J rock

    You racist whites shouldn’t have rested your hopes on Kovalev. He was kind of a basic bum anyway. Don’t hope on GGG, he was exposed already anyway and may get seriously damaged by the Mexican. Rest your hopes on Loma….that guy is the truth. But P4P he is not, until he dominates multiple weight classes. There are sharks in that deeper water though. Be careful Loma

    • Nixtradamus

      It’s not racism. It’s just that lots of people don’t know much about boxing and can’t appreciate or understand great fighters. The proof? Lots of people think Bernard Hopkins was a better fighter than James Toney, for example…

  • Michel Desgrottes

    I think race plays a factor with some folks, with their disdain for Ward, among other boxers

    Also Ward doesn’t shuck and jive and act hollywood

    He’s a god fearing man with a beautiful black family that lives a rigid life outside the ring

    He should be marveled for his boxing skills and true grit, he’s the last male to rep for us in the olympics with gold

    America can love a no personality type like Peyton manning or Tom Brady, but want their boxers to live like Rocky, disgusting

    • David Telfer

      Why bring race into it?

      • disqus_EewaFe3EB6

        It is into it man, let’s not pretend it isn’t

        • David Telfer

          It really isn’t. It’s only brought into it when it suits or to stifle a debate.

          Was it racist against Kovalev in the first fight when Ward got the gift? What about racist against Pacquiao when Bradley ‘won’ their first fight?

          For some people it’s hard to comprehend that they might just dislike someone for something other than the colour of their skin. I like Crawford as a fighter, hate Ward = not racist.

          • disqus_EewaFe3EB6

            Why are you bringing up “gift” decisions? Ward, floyd, b-hop, muhammed alì, sugar ray robinson, joe louis, tyson, all suffered from racism. Anytime a black fighter raises to the top he has to face opposed media and fans trying to take away from his accomplishments. When they got nothing to say, they say he’s boring.
            Why do you hate ward? becuase you don’t like his style? He just did the impossible and koed kovalev, that ain’t boring. Because he fights dirty? Had he been mexican you’d call him a hard nosed veteran, a grizzled fighter. Because of his personality? That’s just bullshit, GGG has zero personality and yet they all love him.
            So?
            I’m not caling you a racist btw

  • Noli Cabantug

    2 excuses. Pardon. 2 question marks. The low blow and the lack firm officiating. I went for Ward prior to the 2nd match.

  • Dee Money

    In regards to Ward’s lack of popularity relative to his success and abilities, I don’t think you can understate all the time he missed. The shoulder injury and then disputes with his promoter totally derailed his rising popularity after the Dawson fight.

  • ceylon mooney

    ward
    is not
    unbeaten. plain as day he lost the first
    fight to kovalev. unfortunately for kovalev he best ward but lost to the judges.

  • Jim

    Of course his job is to promote if he wants to build a fan base and actually sell out an arena or do more than 185k buys. He took at least a 11.5 million from Roc for the last 2 fights and combined they will barely break what Alvarez did against a guy off the street. Pac/Mayweather/Oscar did every interview they could in order to build a fan base. Ward has had 13 years and 32 fights to build a fan base and hasn’t. Instead of traveling and trying to expand his base 7 out of 10 fights before the Kovalev where in Oakland with 2 more in CA.

  • DougWilsonFan

    This is a horrible article! Are they reporting or putting spin on the events?

  • JV316

    good article, it’s an editorial and a fine one, shows a higher level of understanding

  • TNT

    Ward was gifted the first fight, losing the second on unofficial scorecards, and won with illegal low blows. Yet, her is American. I get it.

    • Rick

      Imagine if things were the other way around. People would be losing their shit.

  • Jack Johnson

    this article confused respect and like. I respect the hell out of his talent… but I still don’t like him

  • Nomad

    As a believer I think it is a shame. Andre has to change his name. Son of God never did these dirty things. And His followers in boxing as Evander Holyfield, Foreman, Many Pacquiao, Oleg Maskaev never done something like this.

  • Joey Junger

    This is a confusing “article” (if it can even be called that). It reads more like this guy has a surrogate persecution complex on behalf of Ward. The author has posed some rhetorical questions, so maybe he should field some in return. What would you like fans to do for Ward that Roc Nation isn’t already doing for him, in order to show you we don’t hate him? Maybe we can start a Kickstarter/Go Fund Me campaign to help complement the $ 6.5 million Roc Nation has given him, in order to salve his wounded ego. Perhaps, every boxing fan can get a candle and we can link arms across earth so that, from outer space, Andre can read the message we spell out with our burning vigil candles: “WE LOVE YOU WARD.”

    Would that be sufficient? Would it stop you from penning these weepy screeds? Did you write this on your laptop on the crapper and accidentally get your testicles caught in the toilet seat, lending this piece it’s somber tone?

    • Orca

      Ha, ha, ha. Missed this comment. Some angry little bell end with a chip on his shoulder brought me back to this article and noticed your comment. Agreed 🙂

  • Giuseppe

    I completely agree. Ward is not getting the credit he deserves for unquestionably besting a guy who had an auro of invincibility… at a higher weightclass. the low blows are not the story. Ward’s achievment is. Let’s not always reach for the controversial and negative. There is a lot to wow at here.

  • Peter Attwood

    Ward v Michael Spinks, who wins?

  • Rick

    Who says I need an excuse? I didn’t like him years ago and this doesn’t change anything. He’s petty and I don’t enjoy his boxing style. Those are my REASONS. I don’t particularly care if you disagree. I’m a big boy, I don’t need an excuse, and I don’t owe this writer or Ward anything.

  • monsterUcreated

    Well put Mr. Hale.

    Gee, what is it with these brown colored undefeated US Olympians that can’t get any respect from their fellow countrymen?

  • ozzy

    Weeks has admitted on his Twitter account that he made a mistake. He missed the 2(?) nut shots & said he wouldn’t have stopped it if he’d seen them. Andreas Hale is a terrible writer, & this magazine is getting worse and worse. Ward is not the best fighter on the planet, he has the shittiest style of any champ using head, shoulder, knee & various techniques that are not within the rules of boxing. It is not only inaccurate to describe him as anything like Mayweather, but I’m sure Floyd would see it as an insult. Finally, Ward signs up for VADA on a fight by fight basis, however he apparently didn’t sign up for this fight and so it appears that Ward was untested. As usual it’s hard to find out for certain as the drug testing side of things seems to be regarded as unimportant by many journalists – Kovalev is on a 365 x 24/7 VADA subscription so will have been tested.

  • David Telfer

    Ever think people just dislike him because he’s not very good to watch? Similar to B-Hop?

    Also doesn’t help when people want to label him as the greatest fighter in the world, even though he has lost once to Kovalev and fought nobody of note for the past 5 years. No other fighter in the world would get away without criticism if they decided to fight nobody for 5 years.

  • Expatriot American in Europe

    Last night Andre Ward finished the job he started in the 2nd half of Ward vs Kovalev I last November. He handled, neutralized, then physically and mentally defeated Kovalev. Remember the Krusher is one of the most dangerous and feared power punchers in boxing today! But the SoG fought like an SoB and put a real beating on Sergei, whose body language and turning away proved he was done. The low blows only quickened the inevitable end. Ward is the best in boxing today!

    • AD

      Yes he was hurt But Kovalev covered up and grappled on Ward fairly well after that monstrous right hand connected followed by a vicous LEGAL body blow! Then at the end of fight Ward followed with a borderline low blow then finally a blatant Low Blow which to Andres credit Kovalev was crouched. Maybe Tony Weeks was blocked but it that last illegal punch that made him wave off the fight! Thats wrong and thats it. You cannot stop the fight on a Nut punch

      • Expatriot American in Europe

        You’re right man, Tony Weeks was weak on warning Ward about repeated low blows, but fighters cannot look to the ref to solve their problems. They must fight back effectively, not turn their back or crouch in a fetal position. Sergei was getting hit repeatedly, and had suffered some tough body work from Andre, who was setting him up and luring him in the whole fight. Kovalev fought Ward’s fight, was frustrated at Andre’s speed and dirty tactics, and he failed to adjust. He took a beating and Ward put some Oakland street treatment on him knocking his nuts just because he could. Whether you like the ending or not, Ward dominated the Krusher, which surprized me,

        • AD

          No it was an even fight that had a momentum shift in the 7th and Ward was takin it to the next level in the 8th. Kovalev is an A class fighter you have to give him a chance to recover ! which he would have if Weeks had done the correct thing and gave kovalev a count or warn Ward of his low blows.
          Joshua recovered against klitsko- Corrales recovered against Castillo-
          Foreman against Lyle ( thats all i can remember right now)
          Point is the fight has been ruined by a bad referee job and that’s it . This is boxing and Ward will not have 100 percent respect by the fans(it wasn’t his fault tho) until he wins a high profile fight with no controversy which the last time that happened was when he won the Super Six tourney

  • Artem Mogegov

    No one cares what Kovalev fans saying
    Their favorite lost (twice) and obviously they’re aggrieved.

    • AD

      You lack reading comprehension skills? I’m a boxing fan, I cry foul when something smells foul in the ring.
      TONY WEEKS RUINED WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT SECOND HALF OF AN A CLASS CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT PERIOD.

  • Lalo O Barajas

    I did not realize Andre Ward was now a writer at The RING.

  • jimi

    will we ever see Ward winning a fight clean ????????
    (and how the fuck did KK get to be the p4p nr 2 ???????)

    • disqus_EewaFe3EB6

      dude everybody fouls in every boxing match, it doesn’t mean you didn’t win clean.

  • Stan Ables

    Would be nice to see Kovalev compete with Ward where the judges weren’t biased and the referee actually did his job without showing blatant discrimination in favor to his SOG Nut Cracker fighter and against a white Russian fighter. Ward yet can not claim he has beaten Kovalev fairly in the ring. Ward is a cheap and dirty fighter who is allowed to get away with violating every rule in the book from excessive holding, head butting, hitting behind the head, and throwing excessive low blows.

    • AD

      I dont know about “cheap & dirty” but he definetly doesn’t have a clean win in my mind

    • left hook

      What about Kovalev was he dirty towards ward?

    • disqus_EewaFe3EB6

      He would’ve gotten mauled anyways, move on

      • Stan Ables

        Possibly but with a point loss and a 5 minute rest to recoup who knows what may have transpired. Regardless the ref failed to do his job and thus ended the fight prematurely, therefore we will never know what could and should have happened.

        • disqus_EewaFe3EB6

          Kovalev was not defending himself for a long of time, since that right hand.
          It’s his own fault he got stopped.
          He was a finished fighter trying to buy time by turning his back and flopping on legal blows on the belt line. Don’t try to take away from Ward’s victory, it’s childish and unfair

  • Arjay Cee

    Andreas is hoping to get his very own autographed S.O.G. jockstrap.

    The legendary Strap of Turin.

  • AD

    LISTEN EVERYONE! The consensus is Boxing Fans have a love hate with Andre Ward
    The fans love that he’s an olympic Gold Medalist, has great Boxing I.Q, Clean Cut good boy .
    The Fans Hate that he was fighting off and on, his style can be methodical and boring, and he has no personality on camera!
    The reason everyone pissed about last weekends fight is that ONCE AGAIN the ref (or outside influence) ruined what probably would have eventually led to a NO CONTROVERSY KO of Kovalev and all the blame should be put on Tony Weeks. THAT WAS A HORRIBLE STOPPAGE OF TWO CHAMPIONS FIGHTING AN A CLASS FIGHT!!!

    • Steve Coleman

      Everyone is not pissed. Some of us thought it was a really good competitive fight, just like their first fight was, I enjoyed both fights. Boxing has been really great this year. Most of the folks that are pissed about Ward-Kovalev did not like Ward (or his style of boxing) to begin with. But there are many fans appreciate all styles and want to see these different styles go up against each other. We don’t need to listen to HBO or ESPN talking heads telling us who is boring and who is not, and we don’t want to see just one style of boxing. What makes the sport interesting is that there are different styles, different personalities, and boxers from different places. Variety. And in many fans opinions, there was nothing wrong with the stoppage, otherwise everyone here would be agreeing with each other, which is definitely not the case. And many fighters do not have dynamic personalities, GGG, Rigo, Klitschko, Joshua, Lomachenko, etc. No, it’s definitely more to it than that. Also, why even get pissed because of a boxing match? Because the man that you wanted to win didn’t win? The best man won- have a little bit more control over your emotions man.

      • AD

        did you read my post???
        Your basically saying the same point although in a more articulate sentence structure ! Lol

        You say -“everyone is not pissed ” referring to fight being a competitive bout, yet if you read my last sentence it reads “two champions fighting an A class fight” so why insinuate that I thought the fight was crap?
        Next you say that “Most of the folks that are pissed about Ward-Kovalev did not like Ward (or his style of boxing) ” – yeah some I believe are Ward haters or Kovakev fans but it seems to me by frequenting multiple boxing websites today that the majority that are upset are just upset that the referee had a bad night at the office!
        Your next insight regarding boxing styles and networks I agree wholeheartedly I like to watch all styles of boxing! Why do you think I don’t like Ward? I enjoy watching him fight he’s a p4p fighter and I enjoy his style!

        You then state “And in many fans opinions, there was nothing wrong with the stoppage, otherwise everyone here would be agreeing with each other, which is definitely not the case.” And definitely not the case indeed ! You can’t see that the ref botched the end well then… ? I believe we need to end this pissing contest cuz you obviously can’t comprehend that a fight shouldn’t end when being hit by 3 consecutive blows to either the belt line or actually being low blow and hence a foul.

        Lastly I wasn’t rooting for anyone in particular I just wanted a good scrap (which we got) but was hen tarnished by a premature stoppage ! Was it the worst stoppage in the history of boxing NO abut it wasn’t a good one and what gets me pissed off is all the people on the net today not even questioning it was a bad stoppage! EVEN TONY WEEKS ADMITTED age did a bad stoppage ! Good lord ! https://mobile.twitter.com/TonyWeeks_/status/876324063228162048

  • Quadruple Gee

    Yes, Kovalev was hurt by the right hand, but there were preceding low blows which prepared it. Even if instead of the stoppage Weeks would deduct a point from Ward and let Kova recover for 5 minutes, things could change.

    • AD

      exactly ! I mean look at how Joshua recovered after a shaky round with Klitscko

      • Steve Coleman

        Yea, but it took Joshua 3 full rounds to recover, and Wlad is not a body puncher. Had Wlad gone to Joshua’s body like Ward or Spence does, that fight would’ve been over.

        • AD

          All speculation and thats why fans and Kovalev were robbed of a legit end due to a bad stoppage! Just admit it it was a bad stoppage! Im not a Kovalev fan or a Ward Fan! Ima Boxing fan and that was a lousy ref job by WEEKS. So just say it say it was a bad stoppage because thats what im yelling about for the rest of my life to boxing fans (and Ward if I ever see him)

          • Steve Coleman

            I will admit that if Kovalev was smart he would’ve taken a knee. By bending over and not protecting yourself, you give the ref no choice but to stop it. This is the equivalent of turning your back. I don’t believe it was a bad stoppage, I believe the stoppage is Kovalev’s fault, in my opinion. So we disagree. Yell away for the rest of your life, that’s your choice. I’m sure Ward cares.

          • AD

            Im the hardcore fan that yells! Dougie talk shit about Harcore fans but he’s of the same ilk LoL! Its kovalev’s fault for being hit in the nuts.? okay ?
            The 1ST body punch was on the belt -Okay legit and it made him hunch over

            The 2ND punch- which made him stay hunched over, was on the belt line or borderline low

            The 3RD Punch – Blatant low blow although I don’t think intentional!

            Enter Tony Weeks stooping fight = Bad call

            And your right Ward doesn’t care about me or fans cuz he fighting other battles that he must be if he a true believer of Jesus Christ I mean the motherfuKer signed by Jay-Z who is an occultist / Luciferian Cult member

            IF I EVER SEE WARD IN THE FLESH I’LL SPEAK TO ward IN PERSON AND ASK A FEW QUESTIONS (not just about this fightt)- HE’LL SHOW HIS CHARACTER TO ME BY HIS ANSWER/ACTIONS I HAVE A WAY WITH WORDS…. WHEN i SPEAK TO SOMEONE EYE TO EYE TTHE EYES ALWAYS SHOW A TELL ARGHAHA

          • left hook

            Its was a bad stoppage but how is that ward’s fault.

          • AD

            Your correct he isn’t the ref, its not his fault. I’m just going to yell for him to fight Kovalev again if its still a viable fight!…(Im a FANatic remember!)
            To me a 3rd fight is bigger than ever. I like Ward… I like Kovalev’s boxing style … Lets do it again but maybe have a fight with another before trilogy!
            Also watching this interview and others Ward seems to think he had a valid stoppage ! No he did not Paulie got it right in this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QLNaVnASNU

          • left hook

            No need for a third fight..afterall ward is boring accroding to you guys. Kovalev should move up and fight contenders there. Ward should unify with Stevenson.

    • Steve Coleman

      The body shot combination in rd 8 (just before the big Ward right hand) was not low. It was fight on the belt, and the ref had already told both Ward and Kovalev in the pre-fight instructions that shots on the belt were legal, because their belts were high. Kovalev tried to sell it like it was low, and Weeks did not go for it. Kovalev was lucky that Ward stopped punching him when he was doubled over. This all happened just before the big right hand. The body shots slowed Kovalev down, opening him up for head shots. Kovalev had his chance for revenge, his chance to end the boxing career of a cat who hit like a girl and can’t hurt him, and he didn’t do it. “No Excuses”. The fight is over, the Nevada Commission ruled that there is no controversy – Who’s Next?

      • left hook

        100% agree. Personally i dont think it was low..if it was maybe just one or two punches and it wasn’t intentional. That is what happens when u are targetting the body.
        Kovalev is very arrogant. After all he said, he couldn’t even back it up. He should have ended ward’s career in rounds 1 or 2.

    • disqus_EewaFe3EB6

      those weren’t low. Kovalev bent over to buy time, just like he turned his back for no reason seconds before. Enough bs

  • Pobreng Alindanaw

    i used to like this guy like fought clean and smart….but after moving to higher weight division…he become a smart asshole! he become a smart dirty fighter…grab, hug, wrestle and low blows!….

  • Kudos

    Mr Hale applying his black bias it seems. Don’t tell people who they should or shouldn’t like. Ward an his trainer are pompous twats, he also horrific to watch.

  • Stash One

    WHAT’S THE EXCUSE FOR NOT LIKING ANDRE WARD NOW?

    that he’s dirty, properly dirty, what’s there too like ?

  • John Grady

    Fans tend to respect defensive genius and superior boxing skills, but find them boring if not accompanied by compelling power.

    Also, the fouls and grappling actions can slow the fight down and hints of intentional foul play, which detracts from the bout’s fluidity. I don’t think his offenses are intentional. Tying a foe up, keeping chin tucked, and body punching leads to stagnated fighting and opportunities for headbutts and low blows.

    MMJr. has transcended this trend due to his incredible marketing and building a public personality that people want to see defeated, but AW is so incredibly humble and respectful that most find less than compelling (although this doesn’t explain the anger expressed by many fans).

  • RStech

    Excuse? TDE…The Dirtiest Ever. Low-blows, headbutts, clinching, elbows. Boring and dirty, what was the question again?

    • left hook

      Yawnnn…

    • Jorge

      Too many excuses, great fighters find a way to win a fight. Just stop it

  • AD

    Ward is winner Kovalev is winner ward hit Kovalev in weenies and it got stopped

  • Jorge

    Kovalev has had 20 rds to knock Ward out as he says he would do. He has failed and was beaten on Saturday, time to move on from the excuses. Low blows, over training, etc.

  • Don Badowski

    What more can you ask of him?
    1. Fan friendly style
    2. Stop cheating
    3. Stop holding, and holding, and holding
    4. Stop with the sanctimonious act. You can’t be a cheat in the ring, step out and pretend you have Jesus on your shoulder. You are not St. Christopher.
    5. Stop disappearing and blaming your promoters for what you brought on yourself.
    6. Stop with the with the Golovkin act. It’s not your fault your racist fans starting insisting that Golovkin was ducking you at 168, when you were still refusing to fight. But it is your fault to play along with it. These fans don’t like you, Mr. Ward. They use you, that’s all.

  • Randall Bannister

    In answer to original question posted by Andreas – He’s just not that great.

    He wins but he hasn’t been likeable since the super six. He definitely lost the first Kovalev fight and the second has just caused even more controversy…I thought he was winning but hey it’s subjective.

  • Orca

    Still get a laugh from this article Andreas. This kind of thing belongs on Eastside Boxing or whatever’s it’s called now. Looking at your other articles…..yeah, that doesn’t help your case. That title is a joke man. Surely you see that?

  • Eric Gelmete

    WHAT HAPPEN TO DESTROYING WARD?? ENDING WARDS CAREER ??? WERE WAS THE KRUSHER THAT WE WAS PROMISED AT ???? INSTEAD OF BEING UPSET AT THE STOPPAGE YOU NEED TO BE UPSET AT KOVALEV FOR PROMISING THOMAS’S (ENGLISH MUFFINS) AND GIVING TOAST. REAL TALK, WHAT HAPPEN TO “HE (WARD) HITS LIKE A GIRL, ILL DESTROY HIM” NOW I THINK THAT RIGHT HAND PUT KOVALEV ON NOTICE THAT WARD WAS GONNA FINISH HIM SO LOOK FOR ANY/ALL EXCUSES TO USE LATER, AND KATHY DUVA IS A DISRESPECTFUL WOMEN WHO MADE SOME VERY QUESTIONABLE COMMENTS “I CANT WAIT TO GET OUT OF HERE SO I DONT HAVE TO LOOK AT YOU PEOPLE” WHAT PEOPLE???? YEAH LATER SHE CLEANS IT UP STATING WARDS FANS, BUT C’MON NOW WARD CAME I N TO THE FIGHT KNOWING KOV WAS THE BIGGER PUNCHER, BETTER JAB, AND WARD TOOK ALL KOV HAD AND THEN HIT HIM WITH A MONSTER RIGHT HAND, IF KOV HAD BEEN FIGHTING BACK INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING TO REF LIKE LITTLE GIRL THEN MAYBE WARD WOULD OF BACKED OFF BUT NO HE CRIED BENT OVER AND LOST THE FIGHT…..GOT NERVE TO REQUEST ANOTHER FIGHT SO ACCORDING TO KOV HE CAN KICK WARDS ASS, WELL HE HAD 2 CHANCES TO DO JUST THAT, SORRY KOV IS WEAK IN THE MIND, HE HAD NO WIND, NO CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND MENTALITY……..AND STILL……ANDRE S.O.G. WARD…….

  • Kudos

    The writer of this article must be black, don’t tell me who I should or shouldn’t like. Prick.

  • Cousin Strawberry ( Cheech)

    That pic with Ward and jay z (black and white means
    Masonic Checkerboard/Duality Symbolism..Ward is very protected.
    He can do all he wants and won’t ever get DQed

  • jimi

    dirty always – dont like to watching it

  • BobbyPFalcon

    I am a reluctant fan of Ward. Was rooting for him in the first fight with Kovalev, but I can’t possibly see how he ever got the nod in that fight. Then, he gets the KO in a foul-filled rematch. He’s simply not great to watch – even if he is a great fighter. The same was also said of PBF later in his career…
    So, while I give great kudos to Ward for taking the rematch and winning – I can’t say I’m a fan of his style. Ward is the American Klitschko – crap to watch – but undeniably dominant. And nobody watched.

  • Pierre Burger

    Same as before: he’s dirty AF.

  • Johnny Albo

    The excuse is that Kovalev was winning the majority of the first 5 rounds again, so ward had to resort to “borderline low” ‘body punching’. How many times have u seen a “champion” AIM for the belt, such a grey area to aim for, when theres a whole BARE BODY standing in front of him. So much for going to the body.

  • Drique

    Whats next should be the current #1 versus #2. Who is that> Ward vs Stevenson. Its a fight that should be made. its a suoer fight. its a unification fight.

  • Mike M.

    Wards a nice guy, he’s just a little too pretentious. I think he’s plenty appreciated by fans, I’m personally entertained when I watch him fight. I always thought it was pretty clear he was never going to be the next “mega star” in the sport, he can barely sell tickets in Oakland…he was never going to sell out arenas. He just isn’t very endearing or that likeable to a lot of fans. Ward can claim his status as one of the best of his generation without the massive PPV numbers and that’s perfectly okay.

  • Ace Ace

    Yall motherfuckers don’t know shit about boxing.All those punches Ward landed were legal.Kovalev’s trunks were extra high to make them body shots look like low blows.Kovalev has no inside game.If you don’t consider Ward P4P #1 you’re a casual boxing fan.He beat all top contenders in champions.He’s a all-time great.Whether you’re a Ward fan or not, you have to give him his credit.

  • Ace Ace

    What about when every time ward got inside, Kovalev headlocked him.Thats dirty fighting.Bitch learn how to fight on the inside.

  • Ace Ace

    Kovalev has no heart and can’t take it to the body.