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Tyson Fury stripped of THE RING heavyweight championship, drops from ratings

THE RING heavyweight championship belt, which was first awarded to Jack Dempsey in 1922 and was most recently held by Tyson Fury, is now vacant.




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THE RING heavyweight championship is now vacant.

Tyson Fury captured the prestigious belt in November 2015 by winning a one-sided 12-round unanimous decision over long-reigning champion Wladimir Klitschko in Dusseldorf, Germany.

However, there have been a variety of obstacles which prevented the unbeaten Englishman from defending the championship over the past 26 months. Among them was the ill-fated Klitschko rematch, Fury’s mental health issues, a UKAD investigation and the revocation of his British boxing license.

With all these issues now cleared, THE RING set a deadline (January 31) for Fury to reveal an opponent. However, no such announcement has been made by the fighter’s promoter, hence the decision to remove Fury as champion. Fury will also be removed from THE RING heavyweight rankings for the time being.

We at THE RING would like to make it clear that this decision had not been taken lightly. THE RING championship belt is the closest representation to a lineal champion in the sport today, and Tyson Fury was extremely proud to be part of our heavyweight history.

We deeply regret separating from the lineal championship and we would hope that fans appreciate our reasons for giving Tyson every opportunity over the past two years. We wish our former champion the very best for the future and we will be happy to re-rank him when appropriate.

For the record, the vacant RING heavyweight championship will not be on the line in the IBF, WBA and WBO title unification bout between Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker, which takes place in Cardiff, Wales, on March 31. Joshua and Parker are rated No. 1 and No. 3 by THE RING respectively.

There have been occasions when a vacant RING championship has been contested between No. 1- and No. 3-rated contenders. However, after careful consideration, we do not feel Joshua-Parker qualifies. At this time, THE RING ratings panel unanimously believe that Deontay Wilder is the second-best heavyweight in the world on merit.

 

  • Expatriot American in Europe

    Don’t count Fury out, he has the potential to come back and upset the heavyweight cart again.

    • Tom Gray

      Nobody should count him out.

      • Giuseppe

        physically, i’m not convinced he can actually do it. but i would love to see him throw a spanner in the works of all the hearn/ haymon plans, absolutely.

      • Stephen M

        Hey Tom, who is on the Ring ratings panel anyway? I would think that listing the members names somewhere would be a good idea…

        • Tom Gray

          Hey Stephen. It’s just been revamped within the last week. I’ll ask Doug if we can get all the names flipped on to the website at some point. It would make sense.

          • Stephen M

            Thanks!

    • giovanni

      yep, but time is running out..

  • Wade Wilson

    The scores for the Klitschko fight were 115-112 twice and 116-111. That’s hardly one-sided.

    • Tom Gray

      Point deduction from Fury – 8-4, 8-4 and 9-3 in rounds. AND you can thrown in the fact that the fight was in Germany.

      I think we’ll call it one-sided. You can’t be serious??? I’m going to put that down to you having a rough morning…

      • Wade Wilson

        He clearly won but you make it out like Klitschko wasn’t in the fight. This wasn’t exactly a Pernell Whitaker skilled shut-out. I’ve watched it many times and Klitschko clearly didn’t know what to do but it wasn’t like Fury was running away with it. Despite the way it may sound 8-4 is no blow-out. 7-5 is as close as you can get without it being a draw. It wasn’t being called that at the time and more people were focusing on what Klitschko didn’t do over what Fury did.

        • Tom Gray

          We can disagree here Wade. For me, Fury displayed tactical superiority throughout the duration of that fight. He used lateral movement and controlled the distance in order to take Wlad’s jab away. When Klitschko couldn’t use that punch to set up his right hand, the game was over. He make no tactical adjustment whatsoever and was completely ineffective. If you’re beating Wlad IN GERMANY by 8-4 or 9-3, then you know you won by a country mile. And you’re a brave man if you’ve watched that fight “many times”. Twice was one time too many for me.

          • Wade Wilson

            I didn’t have much fun watching it. I had to watch it with friends to explain it and then I watched it to analyze Klitschko going into the Joshua fight. Wlad had gone so long with guys just standing in front of him so he wasn’t really ready to go on the attack as he would correct with Joshua. That being said it did indeed allow Fury to control the geometry of the fight but Tyson wasn’t doing much either in the way of damage and some of those rounds could have gone to Klitschko even if he had just unleashed the right a little more without landing clean. Just the effort could have swayed it his way. One way or another I don’t want to watch it again and I’m happy that the rematch never came about!

          • Tom Gray

            The only reason Wlad could “go on the attack” against Joshua is because Joshua doesn’t have Tyson’s feet. We can say what we like about Fury: awkward, cumbersome, boring, light hitter. His foot speed for a man of his size is incredible and his ranginess multiplies that advantage. Stylistically, he’s a nightmare for Klitschko. Wlad didn’t make a choice not to attack Fury. He was given no opportunity to do so. Despite the fact that the fight was a cure for insomnia, that was the genius of Fury on the night. A lot of people don’t want to believe that, but that’s a fact. PS: A tip top Fury gives Joshua hell on earth too. The question is, do we see a tip top Fury ever again?

          • philoe bedoe

            100% true………..

          • Stephen M

            “A tip top Fury gives Joshua hell on earth too”. If by hell you mean “embarass” and not “hurt”, I think that you are right.

          • Tom Gray

            That’s what I mean.

          • Wade Wilson

            I think the size difference was as big a problem as his feet. Let’s face it, the guy ain’t exactly Ali out there. All of a sudden Wlad is facing a guy he has to punch up at and even a little that makes a difference. Even punching at a guy who is the same height as you is different than punching down. Despite what the HBO guys have said recently, although they said the opposite when Mike Tyson was on top, you can get more leverage punching upwards but it wears you down and this probably blew his mind. He looked puzzled all night, not something you see from him normally but it was the first time in years that he needed answers. He did stay in there but in the end it wasn’t enough. One way or another though, neither guy really got much done.

          • Tom Gray

            Come on, pal. This is rubbish!

            For a man his size, Fury’s movement is (or was) an amazing asset. He’s not Ali? Hardly a put down, but that doesn’t take away from the facts.

            Wladimir has sparred his brother since he was a kid. He was a decorated amateur who has seen everything at one time or another. He was the heavyweight champion of the world for God sake. And he had a full training camp for Fury.

            We’re going to say, with a straight face, that Wladimir lost because Fury was three inches taller? The only explanation for doing that would be to downplay Fury’s tactical approach which was as follows:

            From my pre-fight interview with Fury:

            “This guy is so accustomed to winning everything with that jab and stepping back. What happens when he can’t do that because he’s out of range? When he can’t hit the target with the left, he won’t have the confidence to release the right. Then what? He’s an Emanuel Steward fighter and I know how he thinks. Klitschko likes to touch his man with the jab and follow with the right but if he can’t land the left, there is no right.”

            Fury continued, “What else is there? That big lead left hook that worked against Kubrat Pulev and Alexander Povetkin. Klitschko bounces back and forth, dips his knees and sets himself before he lets it go. He always sets himself and then hits fighters on top of the head with the big power shots. I’ve seen everything he has and I know what he’s going to do before he does it.”

            Fury’s side-to-side lateral movement, unorthodox style and anticipation won him that fight. He took Wlad’s jab away and, as a result, all of his offense. Do you think Wlad just forgot how to box? He had no target to punch at. If you’re in with someone who knows how to work angles, it’s a completely different ball game. Klitschko was clueless.

            Wlad didn’t rediscover himself against Joshua. He had a fighter who stands his ground and was there for him to punch at. Surely, you see the difference?

          • Wade Wilson

            Exactly! He had gotten accustomed to fighting guys who didn’t match his height and reach and were all but standing in front of him and wasn’t ready for it. I didn’t say once that he hadn’t done it before or didn’t know what to do but that he got thrown because he hadn’t had to deal with it for so long. Rubbish? I don’t like bringing this up but I’ve spent my life up close in the game as a participant and working with fighters and not as a writer or average fan. I don’t mind at all when someone disagrees with me and it’s the wise man who will listen to the layman as everybody can point out something you missed but insults contribute nothing. I’m not saying that the result was solely on Klitschko or that Fury didn’t have a great plan and executed well. I’m not even saying that I’m Klitschko would have won the rematch. As a matter of fact I was pulling for Fury as I don’t view Klitschko as a great and didn’t want to see him make claim to Joe Louis’ record! As for the rematch I’ll just I’m happy he’s gone! In the Joshua fight the commentators on both HBO and Showtime were even talking about how much more aggressive he was fighting and in a manner he hadn’t done in years. We’ll never know if it would have resulted in a different outcome against Fury in a rematch now but I think it would’ve been a much better fight. As for Fury’s comments, Tyson says a lot of things.

          • Tom Gray

            You said this sentence: “The difference with Joshua was the wake up call he had against Fury and he went into it with a lot more fire.”

            Now, I don’t care if you hung out at Sugar Ray’s laundry in Harlem, sparred Emile Griffith or walked Wilfredo Gomez to the ring. That sentence is indicative of someone who has no idea what they’re talking about.

            If Klitschko attacked Fury the way he did Joshua, he would have been wide open for counters and slapped all over the place.

            So, in closing, poor Wlad; a former Olympic champion, a two-time heavyweight titleholder, who reigned for over 10 years straight, lost because something different turned up. I agree!

          • Wade Wilson

            I checked on you and wasn’t impressed myself. I mean, even Linkedin showed me nothing that showed a true expertise and that’s not usual on that site. I quit subscribing to The Ring after it looked like the GBP buyout seemed to dump the good writers and, for the most part, I’ve been proven right. Plus, UK fans have got this tendency to blow up their heroes into something that they’re not. Even A.J. Liebling hinted at this. I avoid saying such things but you seem to rely on insulting language enough that it may be all you understand or, at least, let your emotions blind your reason. Yes, it was a wake up call for Klitschko and the comments on HBO and Showtime reflected that.

          • Tom Gray

            You “checked me out”? 😂This couldn’t get any better. Neither of us are impressed with the other, pal! That’s obvious. Go away.

          • Wade Wilson

            Very well. I do like your writings when you cover the historical aspect of the sport very much and will still comment there but I would prefer reason as opposed to emotional biases when it comes to the analytical side concerning current fighters.

          • Tom Gray

            I’m not emotional. If you reach your forties and your biggest concern in life is how a fight unfolds, you’re doing something wrong. I love the sport, but in my current incarnation, I only care that we see “great” fights. Anything else, I’m 100 percent unbiased.

            You like my historical writings, but my LinkedIn profile let you down? I can settle for that. Take care mate, speak soon.

        • Chris Smith

          “I’ve watched it many times”. Do you have a sleeping disorder? I wish I could unwatch that fight.

          • Wade Wilson

            I wish!

  • Tony Nightstick

    “At this time, THE RING ratings panel unanimously believe that Deontay Wilder is the second-best heavyweight in the world on merit.” My God, that’s depressing.

  • Moose

    About time he was stripped, you cannot hold onto a belt without defending it for 26 months. When he is fit to fight give him first crack to get it back.

    • JL Sabinas

      I wouldn’t go so far as to give him the first crack to get it back; he should earn that chance too. He should at least have a warm up fight, and a top 10 fight, before he gets a chance to get it back. There are other guys wanting a chance too!

      • Moose

        Agreed JL, didn’t want to upset the Fury fans too much!
        On a serious note l was being compassionate due to his mental health issues.

      • left hook

        Good point

    • Lucas S

      If it’s one of the normal belts- yes… but the ring is associated with the history ‘lineal’ title which is a different pair of boots

      • Moose

        Makes me wonder why it took them so long to strip him Lucas.
        Do you think their criteria is in need of change?

  • philoe bedoe

    The right call at the right time.
    Now let’s hope it doesn’t stay vacant to long, and I hope Tyson can get himself back into contention to fight for it again……..

    • Wade Wilson

      It’ll be very hard but I hope he succeeds.

    • ceylon mooney

      heck the right time was ages ago! id luv to see tyson back. dyin to see if he can compete or that was his one time.

      • philoe bedoe

        Tyson is a born prize fighter and the incentive to take on the undisputed no1 ( Joshua or Wilder etc) along with the cash, is what will spur him on………….

    • left hook

      Feel bad for Tyson. I hope he comes back stronger.

      • philoe bedoe

        Me too………..

  • Andy T

    IF they meet this year but in the meantime AJ is the No1 Heavyweight and will hold 4 belts beating Parker.
    Clear No1 winning the belt off Charles Martin in his 16th fight in his 19th fight beat Klitschko he also was due to meet Povetkin but like Wilder the fight was cancelled due to Drug charges against Povetkin. Look at the list of fighters AJ has fought in only 20 fights and list how many are classed as better than Stiverne, Wilders (39 fights to date) best opponent
    IMO it would be Parker, Breazeale and Whyte.
    But we will wait for the clear No 2 to fight the No1 no surprise.

  • Stephen M

    Bravo!

    • Charlie U.

      Was that your email to the Breadman on Boxingscene today??

      • Stephen M

        No. In Maxboxing days there used to be three different Stephens from Canada who’d write in. You’d think it was the only first name in Canada! Great mailbag though.

  • John Grady

    This decision is very much requried and, respectfully, should have been made long ago.

    I appreciate the desire to maintain the lineal championsip, and with TF being so young, it makes sense to delay stripping the champ until absolutely sure he will not defend in a reasonable amount of time… but over two years of inactivity is too long. This even while I respect the Ring’s patience with a young man’s troubles with mental health and (possibly) addiction challenges.

    I truly hope that Mr. Fury uses boxing to fill an important void in his life, loses himself in his craft, and again pursues his potential. I can foresee him rebuilding and eventually facing the AJ-DW winner to reclaim (if possible) the Ring championship in 2019.

    • Andy T

      I do not get all this he did not defend it for 2 years what about the drug rap in 2015 in which Hammer has been taken off his record and all the winnings and ranked points are to be removed and the missed test in 2016 plus he still has not got a license to fight.

      • Tom Gray

        The “drug wrap” from February 2015 was impossible to address because the test results were disclosed over ONE YEAR after the fact, by which time Fury had become champion and tested clean before and after the Klitschko fight.

        The delay on those failed test results being made public was ludicrous, as was the monumental delay on the entire situation being addressed. Both the failed test, and the missed test, were finally dealt with in the form of a backdated two-year ban by UKAD.

        Subsequently, the BBBoC said that Fury will be re-licensed pending up-to-date medical records. Barring something crazy happening (not beyond the realm of possibility) Fury gets his license in a New York minute.

        THE RING stripped Fury because no opponent was announced on deadline and, even if one had been announced, the validity of that opponent would also have been taken into account.

        • Andy T

          Clean after the Klitschko fight how can you say this when he missed test in 2016.

          • Tom Gray

            Ah Ah let’s not get this confused. Clean through training for and directly after Klitschko fight. He was tested accordingly. Fury declined UKAD testing during training camp for the rematch. It’s impossible for me to guess if he was clean or not during that time. Only Fury knows.

          • John Grady

            Is there an explanation for why the Ring waited so long to strip TF? Preseving its allegience to the lineal championship seems to be the case, as well as perhaps wishing to give a gifted but troubled young man time to work through his challenges… I appreciate both but the degree of patience is startling to me. Is there any other reason?

          • Tom Gray

            There were many reasons, and it wasn’t easy to manage:

            1. As you said, Fury was lineal champion and the editors don’t like to mess with that at any weight, particularly heavy.

            2. A rematch with Klitschko was scheduled twice and both fighters withdrew.

            3. The circumstances behind the failed test were hazy. How can you fail a test in Feb 2015 and be rewarded with a title fight nine months later? Then these results are released 16 months after the test was taken. That was insane.

            4. The endless UKAD investigation.

            Now, some of the things that happened were Fury’s fault, but not all of them. Were THE RING lenient at times. Possibly, but there was nothing sinister going on. Hopefully it all gets solved in the long run.

          • John Grady

            I appreciate your thoughts a great deal, thank you for sharing.

            Even when considering how challenging it is to set up a heavyweight title fight, the lunacy of the testing results process, and the other issues that were acknowledged, I still cannot understand how a champion can remain so after two full years of inactivity. All these explanations are understandable for perhaps a year, even 1.5 years maybe… not two. Perhaps with a realistic policy, athletes would think twice before putting themselves in position to having issues with the drug tests.

            I don’t think it is an argument that the Ring was lenient, and I admire their efforts to a large degree. I don’t believe anything sinsister was going on on their part at all, just not adhering to expected standards (i.e. to have a champion that defends the title in a reasonable amount of time). Knowing the politics behind boxing as I do, and as evidenced by the UDS issues, I suspect there are explainations for the results issues.

            The above is not criticism of TF, the person… I have been a dual-licensed (i.e. mental health and addictions) counselor for years, and teach at a graduate school. I fervently hope that he is getting adequate care, and has people interested in his health vs. his potential future earnings. This is obviously far more important than any title.

            Again, thank you for your time!

            John

          • Tom Gray

            You’re welcome dude. Great chatting.

          • Robert Archambault

            Fury also announced his retirement on multiple occasions and admitted to industrial quantity of cocaine abuse. That alone should have been enough to strip him of his titles.

  • GodBlessTheDead

    What a joke haha! Wilder’s not fought anyone in 10 pro years, you lost all credibility!

    • Tom Gray

      I’m far from being a Wilder advocate but, who do you believe should be above him?

      • GodBlessTheDead

        Going by this very article… Joshua!
        “Joshua and Parker are rated No. 1 and No. 3 by THE RING respectively.”

        • Helmut oberlander

          We get 1 and 3. Who do you see as 2? It seems from your comment, you have a problem with Wilder at 2.

          • GodBlessTheDead

            https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/?weightclass=272
            I have no problem with Wilder being #2 thats were I would have him, but assume what you like I guess lol..
            I think it should be awarded to the unified champion who is ranked #1 in their rankings, Joshua.

          • Tom Gray

            Ok, the temptation is too great to come back at you. Your logic is that we just hand over the belt to Joshua like it’s a pair of carpet slippers? Go away!

          • GodBlessTheDead

            no, they should have #1 v #3 fight for it not #2 v #5 are you really that stupid bro?

          • Tom Gray

            Does anyone know what this guy is talking about? Wilder is to high. Award it to Joshua. Have No. 1 and No. 3 fight for it. No. 2 and No. 5 shouldn’t. You’re in no position to talk to me about anything boxing related.

          • GodBlessTheDead

            Good come back bro… you literally said nothing at all.
            If you think the lower ranked fighters should fight for it thats on you haha!
            I think the higher ranked fighters should fight for it, its really that simple.

          • Tom Gray

            Nobody knows what you’re talking about, pal. It’s really that simple. Some other time. Some other place.

          • GodBlessTheDead

            Im sure you dont.

          • GodBlessTheDead

            If I am missing something please enlighten me, I actually want to know, why would Wilder get the belt when Joshua is ranked #1? and Joshua is fighting a higher ranked boxer next than Wilder? No trolling here, I honestly want to know how it ends up Wilder getting it? I must be missing something!

          • Tom Gray

            Who said Wilder is getting the belt? IF the rankings remain as they are, then he and Joshua are the two fighters who would vie for it. Wilder isn’t getting anything?

          • GodBlessTheDead

            Hmm ok, so it seems I am a total dick head who completely misread the last part of the article lol I thought it said they was handing it to Wilder who is #2 when it just says Wilder is #2, my bad…
            so they will just leave it vacant for up to a year maybe until #1 fights #2?
            Either way cheers for clearing that up haha.

          • Tom Gray

            It’s all good, pal. Thanks 😉

          • GodBlessTheDead

            I am new here this is literally my first comment/s ever, guess there must be some trolls here, but I just misread and got myself off to a nice start here lol but it just seems odd as it will just be vacate for probably a year now should have left Fury with it until hes back (which seems around now) or wait until #1 v #2 actually happens then strip him. anyway cheers again for clearing that up, I will be careful what to post in the future lol

          • Koninbeor

            Welcome to the forums. Don’t let anyone light your fire too easily. Just try to have fun. 🙂

          • Charlie U.

            Try not to let your hatred of one fighter prevent you from seeing facts.

          • Lucas S

            Agree, didn’t strip him when inactive…but did it as soon as he’s officially on his way back… 🙁
            I hope he will win all the belts back & vacate them asap, as too much politics involved with them this days…

          • Stephen M

            The requirement for Fury to keep his belt wasn’t that high: schedule a fight.

          • WR

            Question
            Why should The Ring let a fighter keep a Title for 2 yrs without defending it?

          • Andy T

            With a drug rap in 2015 and a missed drug test in 2016 why not

          • Andy T

            What I think some are alluding too is Joshua is the number 1 so therefore if he fights the No 3 then he should be the Ring Champ but by saying `the no 2 Wilder is such a strong no 2 the Ring will not accept the No1 & No 3. Therefore to be crowned the Ring Champ you have to beat Wilder so if he keeps wanting 50% it will not happen, I find this poor to be truthful when you have a fighter (AJ) with 20 fights taking all comers on. IMO

          • Tom Gray

            I totally get the argument, but the overall decision was based on consensus among the panel. Wilder has not looked like a world beater, himself, but he is still stretching guys.

            In his last three fight, Parker has won two split decisions and one unanimous. Personally, I thought he edged Ruiz, but I had Fury up 7-5 and I thought Parker looked absolutely woeful that night. And the one unanimous decision the WBO champ did post was against a “former sparring partner” in Cojanu who was a late sub.

            Joshua deserves to fight for THE RING belt. That is demonstrable. But, ask yourself, if Parker and Wilder had agreed to fight instead, who would be favorite? Wilder might not have been the huge favorite that Joshua is, but Parker would still have been the underdog given their respective form guides.

            To simplify; Joshua deserves a shot at THE RING belt right now, but Parker doesn’t.

            If Parker sparks Joshua that changes in a hurry.

          • Andy T

            Parker is ranked No 3 by yourselves and like you say if he beats Joshua deserves the belt.

          • Tom Gray

            LIke I say? I never said that. I said Joshua deserves a shot at the belt. If Parker wins, then he deserves a shot at it. Case closed.

        • Tom Gray

          Ok, that’s the end of that conversation. I don’t do crazy! I’ll let the guys deal with you!

  • Don Badowski

    Ring Magazine has its own standards of course, Time and again they have shown a serious unwillingness to remove someone from the champion spot. Of course that has a lot to do with what is still considered the “lineal” champion. They don’t want to break that. Getting their No. 1, 2 and 3 ranked contenders to make a fight is murder. And Dougie said that Ring Magazine does nothing to make these fights. As little as the WBO, WBC, WBA and IBF/IBO does, Ring does less.
    But with Fury, they really should have dumped him when everyone else did. He showed no interest in defending. He disappeared. He gained an enormous about of weight. He had mental health issues? OK, that’s hard. But he was also self-medicating with a certain drug not normally prescribed by the British Medical Association. Yes, it comes from Columbia. Was he doing coke because he was depressed, or did the coke lead to depression? “I can’t get no more coke! My source dried up. So depressing…”
    When the “stars” get caught screwing up, what do they do? They hold a press conference, or release a statement through their lawyers, that they are a Victim of drug abuse, and will need to go to rehab. It is left unsaid that they also want to get someplace safe so a judge doesn’t order them to jail. Then they appear before the judge and say “Your honor, I’m a new person. That other person you wanted to send to jail for violating drug laws and smashing up cars no longer exists. Please let me go.” But Tyson didn’t even do that. There has to be consequences. I really hope he is on the mend.

    • Robert Archambault

      Adonis Stevenson is the lineal title holder and RING had no qualms about stripping the title from his waist.

      • Don Badowski

        True. He won it from Dawson in March 2013, and they stripped him in November, 2015. He got 2 years 8 months. And he didn’t even have drugs or mental illness as an excuse for getting the extra 8 months.
        He also cried racism when Ring stipped him. So I’m really not feeling bad about him at all.

        • Robert Archambault

          I’ll never feel bad about Stevenson getting stripped. After the things he’s done I live for the day I see someone beat the snot out of him. I don’t think there’s a fighter who deserves a serious beating more than he does.

  • Charlie U.

    Unlike some, I’m big on the lineal title. The man who beat the man who beat the mean is a big deal in boxing, especially in the heavyweight division. Boxing’s rich history and tradition is one of the main things that separates it from other combat sports. So, I understand this decision by RING was not an easy one. But it’s the right one. Fury has not shown enough urgency to get back in the ring. I suspect he will soon, however, and by that time (fingers crossed) we should have already cleared up the Joshua, Wilder, Parker, Ortiz round robin. Then, if Fury takes on the winner, this will be like a small blip in the great tradition of the lineal heavyweight champion.

    • Stephen M

      What I don’t like about the lineal title, and I’ll admit I don’t know how often this happens, is when the lineal champion isn’t the actual best fighter in the division. You know who I mean.

      • Son Lyme

        Stephen. 100% this.

    • Franz Lorenz

      Completely overrated, Buster Douglas is the best example why that doesn’t really matter. Also most champs keep ducking tough challenges all the time, so the best rarely fight each other, hence the lineal title doesn’t mean anything

      • Charlie U.

        Huh??? How is Buster Douglas the best example. He came in and beat an undefeated Mike Tyson when no one thought he had a chance. That was his pinnacle. He couldn’t maintain his weight and ended up losing to Evander. Not every lineal champ is going to be an all time great.

        • Franz Lorenz

          Yeah so when a champ just doesn’t give a damn, gets cocky and loses against someone who is clearly an inferior fighter and who then of course loses it next match, do you really think the lineal championship really means something then? Then man who beat the man, even though Douglas didn’t beat Tyson it was Tyson who beat himself and after that yeah Evander was a worthy champion but it could have been literally anyone, and that’s the man who beat the man who beat Tyson, to me that’s BS. So lets just agree to disagree.

  • sean

    By the ring? Does that mean Doug Fischer? I’ve never seen an authentic listed as “by the ring”

  • BillyC

    Good. He might stop claiming to be the “real” champion now. Still, I hope he does get back in shape and back in the ring. His pre fight shenanigans are entertaining even if his style of fighting isn’t.

    • John Newman

      My guess is that he’ll still claim to be the real (meaning lineal) champion. Hopefully this provides a little extra fire for him to get back.

  • Lucas S

    I think this move hits credibility of the organisation more than anything else. The very same organisation which is associating itself with lineal title.
    Everyone knows that TF has full intention to come back to boxing & only been given ‘a green light’ days ago!! If they waited so long, why not wait another few months until he’s back in the mix?! The title should be lost in the ring, especially that TF, is on its way back to the ring now..
    Very bad decision in my opinion

  • Son Lyme

    The laggardly attitude displayed by the Ring Magazine in this regard is matched only by the bloated self importance displayed in the statement announcing it.
    Fury needs to step up and face the three current world champions, and that can only be good for boxing. Unlike ‘paper’ titles awarded by a self selecting private members club, real belts have to be fought for in the ring. Which is what it is all about after all.

    • Stephen M

      Ha!
      I’m guessing you don’t like them referring to their own belt as “prestigious”? Canadian modesty would prevent me from doing that.

      • Tom Gray

        Yeah, next time we’ll call it that “relatively standard belt” and see if that goes over any better. Christ! The last 24 hours has been the worst.

        • Stephen M

          Sorry to hear that Tom. If you need a pick me up, have a look at the forum at Breitbart News. We will seem, rational, polite and conciliatory in comparison.

    • Tom Gray

      I love the fact that THE RING are displaying “bloated self importance” but the MULTIPLE governing body belts which are available in modern boxing are what you perceive to be “real”. Yeah, look at all those “real” belts out there. What a crock of shit that is!

  • Startostrophic

    I don’t know how anyone (outside of Britain of course the Brits think he’s all that) can have an ounce of respect for Fury. He’s a complete joke and embarrassment to the sport and how own family. He absolutely fluked out a win against Klitchko and he knew it, hence the reason he wouldn’t get back in the ring with him, he KNEW the second time around he’d get destroyed. If he fought the same Klitschko A.J. did he wouldn’t have lasted 5 rounds. He doesn’t deserve anything. He was stripped of all his titles ,got caught using PED’S and then has the gall to call out A.J. for using steroids. Now he’s running his mouth that he could do this or that to this guy or that guy when I’m fact ,he can’t do anything to anyone because he’s a fat slob. The sooner he is out of boxing the better off the sport will be.

    • Tom Gray

      Fluked the win? So, Fury accidentally hit Klitschko more times than he got hit back for 36 minutes? And because Klitschko can have success against Joshua, that guarantees that he can have success against a mobile boxer who is taller and rangier? You’ve really taught me something today, pal. Look, Fury is the cause of everything that’s happened to him. He has no one else to blame. But let’s not talk a cavalcade of bullshit here!

      • Startostrophic

        That’s correct, he fluked out a win over Klitchko in what many regard as one of the worst heavyweight fights ever. Klitchko wasn’t in shape for that fight and everyone knows it and even with that Fury still barely got the decision. And Tyson isn’t rangie or slick, he runs and runs throws occasionally then tied him up, that wouldn’t have happened the second go around I promise you that and it certainly won’t happen against A.J. Klitchko was in much better shape for the A.J. fight and it showed . That Klitchko would destroy Tyson Fury and he knows it that’s why he wouldn’t fight him in the rematch. Fury is a joke and if he fights A.J. he’ll get destroyed easily.

    • Brian Teles

      Lots of people in the UK (me included) have no respect for him. He’s universally unpopular. He should just go fight a horse in a field for a fist full of tenners.

      • Tom Gray

        “He should just go fight a horse in a field for a fist full of tenners.”

        Brilliant! 🙂 hahahahahahahahahahaha

        • Brian Teles

          Thanks mate, I try my best 😀

      • Startostrophic

        Hahaha 😂

    • Floridastorm

      I agree with everything you stated. Finally someone has some common sense about this Fury guy. His disgusting disrespectful raving and ranting at every press conference shows that he’s mentally ill. Every Brit should be embarrassed to support this clown. Also, the guy is on all sorts of illegal drugs including Cocaine. You never get off Cocaine. It takes over your life. The UK has some great fighters right now that everyone, not just Brits, should be proud of. Anthony Joshua is one of the best examples of, not only an excellent champion, but a true gentleman. BJS, although I’m not a fan of his style, has proved that he is a master in the ring. Kell Brook is still one of the best and is a really nice fellow. I would like TF to come back if only to see him get KO’d in his first fight. That would make my day.

      • Startostrophic

        I think this is the best UK boxing has been in many many years with the exception of Fury. And drops his uncle as his trainer ,great way to show your appreciation. I feel sorry his uncle ,he seems like a pretty good guy ,down to earth and level headed and put up with alot of garbage from Tyson and then he gets stabbed in the back . As for his son Hughie I’m afraid he’s crazy of he thinks he’s a top fighter. Hugh’s fight against Parker was absolutely awful, I don’t know how anyone can say that fight was even close ,he should take up marathon running and get out of boxing cause like how cousin that’s all he can do ,run and run and then close his eyes and throw one punch then hold on like he was hanging off cliff .

  • Brian Teles

    About time.

  • Stash One

    You lot let him keep it for 2 years (inactive) then strip him on the verge of his comeback ?? Bizarre.

    • Don Badowski

      It’s not like he didn’t know it was coming. Besides that, Ring rules say he would have had to schedule a fight against one of their top contenders. That isn’t likely to happen, first fight back.

  • jebib

    Only point I’d like to make is with most of the top ten undefeated on what empirical evidence do you rate them? How much better they beat a tomato can? I could see any of the top six being “Ring” Champion by the end of next year.