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Vasyl Lomachenko toys with, stops overmatched Marriaga

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05
Aug

LOS ANGELES – Vasyl Lomachenko knew full well that his fight against unknown Miguel Marriaga Saturday night packed little pizzazz. So he created his own.

The richly gifted Ukrainian dropped his hands and summoned Marriaga to him on one occasion. He poked his head in and out in a playful way. He gently tapped Marriaga’s head in rapid succession when they got stuck in a clinch. He even did a little dance.

And the 4,000-plus inside the Microsoft Theater laughed. All but Marriaga and those close to him, that is.

Lomachenko toyed with the sadly overmatched Colombian the entire fight, peppering him with all kinds of punches from all kinds of angles and took virtually nothing in return in a fight that couldn’t have been more one-sided.

Marriaga went down from a straight left in the third round. He hit the canvas again in the final seconds of the seventh round, this time from an overhand left to the top of his head.

By the latter knockdown, it was clear to anyone paying attention that this was anything but an actual fight. And, worse, Marriaga was starting to take a beating. Those two factors prompted Marriaga’s corner to end the fight after the seventh round, a wise decision.

Marriaga (25-3, 21 knockouts) proved to be an ordinary fighter. And no ordinary fighter is going to compete with Lomachenko (9-1, 7 KOs).

That’s why the WBO 130-pound titleholder was unhappy about the selection of Marriaga as his opponent after a potential rematch with Orlando Salido – the only fighter to beat Lomachenko – never materialized. He knew Marriaga wasn’t worthy of the challenge.

His next opponent might not be such a pushover.

Bob Arum, Lomachenko’s promoter, told RingTV.com that he has begun talks with another sublime boxer – Guillermo Rigondeaux – for a possible showdown in December.

Arum said the Cuban junior featherweight, who has chased a big fight for years, is willing to jump two weight classes to junior lightweight to face Lomachenko in what would be a fascinating matchup.

An agreement doesn’t appear to be imminent but both sides seem enthusiastic about the fight, which is encouraging to those who would like to see it.

God knows Rigondeaux needs a defining fight and some big money. He’s 36 and his career has been slipping away. And the public shouldn’t be subjected to another matchup like Lomachenko-Marriaga.

  • Larry Connor

    Loma is a beast!! Chalk another one up for the boxer!! You don’t have to have crazy power to beat someone down. Skills pay the bills!!

    • Stephen M

      Yeah, you need skills and some desire and respect for the fans…

      • Larry Connor

        Yes that’s true and Loma have those attributes in abundance

    • FLOMATARD

      The real FLOMATARD!

    • Mauro Hermida

      He looked two weight classes above his opponent. It was the epitome of a look good type of fight.

    • Terry Cochran

      He too me is a lot like the great super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe.

  • Nixtradamus

    If a limited fighter like Marriaga can do that much damage to Lomanchenko, Rigondeaux would destroy him. Lomanchenko is a very good boxer, but the hype is just ridiculous.

    • Rod Rod

      Hahahahaah!

    • Dee Money

      Possibly, but I would imagine against a higher quality opponent Lomachenko wouldn’t pause the fight walk to a corner and stand there inviting his opponent to come in. Nor would he bob and weave face first mocking his higher quality opponent. He still might take a headbutt though, that caused the most damage.

      • Chris Stans

        The size difference would be egregious

    • Johnny Cohen

      Loma would never showboat like that against a counter-puncher with the handspeed of Rigondeaux. He’s not an idiot. Although he spent a few too many minutes for my liking clowning around with Marriaga – hence the facial damage (most of it from a head butt).

    • left hook

      He is very skilled but his not been proven yet for him to be P4P .. though I give him credit for beating the Jamaican and Gary.

      • FLOMATARD

        “Jamaican and Gary” – I know your trend

        • left hook

          Roderick aint u tired of using different accounts.

          • FLOMATARD

            who the hell is Roderick??

      • ceylon mooney

        he sure passes the eye test.

        • Mauro Hermida

          Too many people need glasses.

        • left hook

          Yea no doubt he has passed it but he has not seen many things with those eyes.

    • Mike Prado

      Dude, Loma turned his back on Marriaga, walked into a corner while motioning him over, turned around and invited him to hit him. C’mon man, no one’s gonna pull that stunt against someone who’ll actually hurt them! GGG: Monroe, sure why not. Lemieux, hell no.

      Loma’s makeover was a combination of headbutt damage and shots that he took unnecessarily while fighting aggressively. Not saying that Loma can’t be hit, he said himself after the fight that he needs to work on “better defense.” But he also wasn’t waltzing circles around Marriaga like he normally does. It was obvious that he had a chip on his shoulder last night.

      Bottom line: he knows that Rigo can crack, and he wouldn’t (intentionally) leave himself open like that with him.

  • Derek

    rigo fans continue to be delusional. He throws about 30 punches a round and has a weak chin at 122. Loma beats his ass in a bad way, not sure how people think he could even out box loma with that amazingly low output

    • Ain’t no dinos in Holy books

      Rigo IS sublime, but suffers a brutal KO against Loma. Probably of the one punch variety.

      • Stephen M

        I have a hard time imagining that fight. They’d both spend a lot of time trying to get the better position…

      • Larry Connor

        They just need to fight. Rigo wants it. Make it happened

    • Brian Jensen

      Rigondeaux has the skills and ability to beat Lomachenko. It will be a great technical fight while it lasts. And I think Lomachenko could win, but it won’t be easy.

      • Kudos

        You would say that

        • Brian Jensen

          Why do you say that?

        • Terry Cochran

          Yes it is possible to say anything, true or not

    • Chris Gonzalez

      Exactly right. Loma has a big size advantage and same, if not better all around boxing skills. Rigo would have little to no chance of taking this one.

    • ceylon mooney

      weak chin? that giant japanese guy put him down and he got right up w/o his facial expression even changing. dont look like he even felt it–he sure didnt look bothered.

      • Mauro Hermida

        He was put down twice by that guy, put down by donaire, wobbled by non contenders. It’s not so much about getting hurt as much as it is about the people that are hurting you. His chin is suspect. He will get beaten up badly.

        • ceylon mooney

          yea never seen him hurt. i seen him dropped. looked totally unaffected by it each time.

          • Derek

            That’s because rigo has one never changing facial expression u could shoot his knee caps and he would probably still have that same unsatisfied look on his face

          • ceylon mooney

            hahahaha yeah

            man he got the thousand yard stare!

            like edwin valero had the helter skelter

          • Ewan Leaper

            He’s a bit long in the tooth but if they ever made a Valero movie then Robert Carlyle would do the job, definite Begbie vibe

          • ceylon mooney

            man theres def a resemblance

    • Larry Connor

      We just need to see the fight. Both are great pure boxers with skills out of the gazoo. I would love for them to keep beating the shit out of these so call power punchers instead of fighting each other, but hey, make the fight. I do not see anyone in either of their weight classes beating them.

  • Chris Stans

    Still waiting for LomaLinares

    • ceylon mooney

      id be theilled with berchelt, corrales

  • Johnny Cohen

    I am a huge Loma fan. But tonight, he proved nothing – other than his ability to humiliate and bully a vastly overmatched opponent. It felt like a flashback to high school where the school’s best fighter laid into the class nerd and the “vultures” stood around cackling with glee at what was never ever going to be a fair fight.

    It is high time for Loma to face Rigondeaux or Davis. Or move up and face Mikey Garcia, Linares or even Crawford. Only then…will he truly earn the legacy he claims to aspire to. The question is…are those choices in his hands or Bob Arum’s? Because his fans will start to lose interest FAST if his next fight is with an over-the-hill Salido.

    If you say you want to fight the best, Loma, there are A Grade fighters out there – at 130 and 135 – who you would be foolish to showboat with. In other words, your fans are waiting for you to impress against someone with real skills and/or power…but our patience is running out.

  • Jay

    I like Loma. He’s very skilled, but what’s up with the cherry pick? Who asked for this fight?

    • TMT NYC DA REAL GHOSTBUSTERS

      Bob.

    • Harry

      They desperately needed to replace Salido with someone and found the only guy who agreed to share the ring with Loma

  • wrecksracer

    The broadcast seemed to be pushing “Loma is a big star in the boxing world, ready to cross over to the general public”. I’m not sure I buy that. Regardless, I wouldn’t mind seeing him against serious opposition. Does anybody really enjoy a guy hotdogging against limited opposition?

    • Baron Kazama

      tell this story about limited opposition to gary russell, nicholas walters, jason sosa.

      also ask all other champions in 130 why they’re so scared to step into one ring with vasyl hi-tech lomachenko

      • Brian Jensen

        Jason Sosa was a limited fighter. So Lomachenko has only beaten three elite champions, and lost to one. He dominated Walters, which was great. But he hasn’t done anything to be regarded as the best P4P fighter in the world. He certainly doesn’t have the resume that Andre Ward has.

        • left hook

          I agree 100%. Personally I think Thurman has a better resume and he is not on the p4p list.

        • joe blanco

          “So Lomachenko has only beaten three elite champions”

          That’s funny. I guess u don’t see how ridiculous that statement sounds considering Loma has only 10 fights under his belt. And of course he does not have Ward’s resume he has only 10 fights! Some posters have the reasoning abilities of children.

        • Dee Money

          Its the long standing debate, is a fighter only as good as his resume or can he evaluate him with our eyes (or at the very least on a per fight basis)?

          I think as rational observers we can to an extent project a bit based on what a fighter does on a per fight basis without just relying on resume.

        • Julio

          As ridiculously good as Lomachenko is, I agree that just based on his credentials, he can’t be number one P4P right now. Talent wise, he is in my view the most complete and versatile fighter you can ever expect to see.

        • Mauro Hermida

          No one on his resume is elite. Never impressed with Walters who used the fact he could drop a ton of weight and then blow up to his advantage. Loma exposed him for being a dcently skilled guy, that’s it.

          • Brian Jensen

            Gary Russell and Walters were elite. But Lomachenko made them look like nothing.

        • Baron Kazama

          how many world champions ward fought during his first 10 fights?
          loma got 6.

          how many for ward? maybe 0?

          that’s why ppl call loma future p4p king

          • Brian Jensen

            Ward has beaten greater fighters that will be remembered in 10 years. And you just proved my point. Lomachenko is the Future P4P king, which means he’s NOT the P4P king right now.

          • Baron Kazama

            it’s kinda obvious that he’s not p4p king now. skillwise yes, he is, but he needs better resume. loma knows this and he says the same about his p4p status

      • left hook

        I thought you guys said Gary russell was a bum? Loma beat a bum then, so i guess Gary doesnt count. And Sosa is a nobody really.

        • ceylon mooney

          not me–russell is no bum. i wouldnt mind that rematch, hut i think the gap has widened.

      • wrecksracer

        I was talking specifically about last night. Walters and GRJ were good wins. I’m not buying that everybody is scared to fight him though. On one hand, Arum is saying “nobody has called me” on the other hand, he is claiming that everybody is turning him down. He hasn’t talked to anybody, but they are turning him down? Come on….

        • ceylon mooney

          bob arum is shamelessly full of
          shit and has a habit of fucking the fans so who knows

    • Dee Money

      Thats more about ESPN trying to make money than anything else

    • Dan O’Rourke

      No, I enjoy him taking apart a talented Gary Russell and the Axe Man

  • ciobanu catalin

    Rigo wont agree, like before, destined to be nobody… And everyone else just finds excuses, mickey also. Only guy not afraid, is too big, Bud. The interesting thing that no one is talking about, is that loma is so good, he is making very warrior quit… That something unseen before

    • Brian Jensen

      Mikey is willing to fight if Arum pays good money.

      • FLOMATARD

        Loma is HBO and Garcia is SHO. Aint gonna happen

        • Brian Jensen

          It happened before, and it will happen again.

          • FLOMATARD

            Trust me

    • John Newman

      That was one of the few things the ESPN commentators got spot on. Both Stephen Smith and Teddy Atlas (who has some of the worst verbal diarrhea in the sport) commented on how rare it was to see a fighter so talented that he could get champion-level opponents give up. Lomachenko is a marvel.

      • Mike Prado

        Yeah I’m not always a fan of what Atlas (or Smith, for that matter) says, but that analogy about plucking his opponent’s heart out was perfect. He doesn’t just beat them up, he humiliates them, saps their very soul. Very smart. If there’s no will, there’s nothing. Absolutely nothing.

      • ceylon mooney

        that still has me shakin my head impressed and perplexed at the same time. styles
        make fights and all but someone as powerful as walters
        rendered powerless.

        • Dan James

          Walters can still do it. He just did not have the tools. He needs a defensive trainer to teach him footwork and positioning. I think Gary Russell gives him a better rematch even if Gary loses.

          • left hook

            I agree. My only problem is Gary doesnt fight often.

          • Floridastorm

            Russell already lost to Lomo and looked bad in the process.

    • Dan James

      If Bud is too big at 140? Why is Rigo not too small? If Loma fights Rigo, he should man-up and fight Bud.

      • Baron Kazama

        i think there’s like 20 lbs difference between bud and loma on a fight day,

        loma is like 138. bud is like 155

  • TMT NYC DA REAL GHOSTBUSTERS

    Lomachenko will hoist Rigo over his head and chuck him out of the ring!

    • ceylon mooney

      so will thunderlips

      • Kingarella

        lol!

  • Teddy Reynoso

    Ho hum…zzzzz

  • Michel Desgrottes

    Man, if this was a PBC fight smmfh

    • Stephen M

      You’d have had an orgasm smh…

      • FLOMATARD

        He hates Top Rank.. you know

        • Stephen M

          But Top Rank on PBC would be so terrific…

          • Mauro Hermida

            His agenda shit is annoying.

  • ozzy

    I very much doubt that Rigo will go up to 130lbs to face Loma, he will more than likely want to split the difference between their current weight classes and want the fight at 126lbs i.e. featherweight. Although this may seem reasonable and equally challenging for both fighters, Loma seems to have grown into the super featherweight division and is strong at this weight, so dropping 4lbs at this stage in his career may not be a easy or even wise thing to do when he’s due to face such a difficult opponent. I may be wrong and Loma will drop the weight and discover no problems, however the opposite scenario is a live possibility and something for Team Lomachenko to keep in mind.

  • Brian Jensen

    I think Mikey Garcia will knock out Lomachenko. Mikey has a better defense and timing, so he could knock out Lomachenko with a perfectly timed right hand.

    • Stephen M

      Yeah, If he ever knew where Loma was…

      • ceylon mooney

        timing lomachenko would be really hard, even for rigondeaux.

        anyone noticed that lomachenko not only moves while throwing combinations but he shifts gears as well?

    • ceylon mooney

      timing lomachenko would be really hard, even for rigondeaux. mikey hasnt shown that level of timing.

      anyone noticed that lomachenko not only moves while throwing combinations but he shifts gears as well?

      how the heck u adjust to and time
      that?

      • Julio

        Yes, there is simply too many layers to his craft that he can summon at anytime. He just read the opponent so thoroughly that he can easily devise when to apply a certain technique, style, offense, defense. It is a thing to behold the way he makes opponents look silly.

        • ceylon mooney

          the visible gap in ability between him and solid contenders/beltholders is so wide hes likely as good as he looks.

  • Roberto Carlos Guerra

    Loma and Rigo are among my two favorite boxers. It would actually be sad to see them fight knowing that one will lose, and it will probably be Rigo. I think it would be similar to Marquez vs Mayweather, Rigo playing the part of Marquez, an aging, blown up, over-matched counterpuncher against a younger, heavier, multidimensional boxing wizard fighting in his own weight class. It won’t be easy for Loma, but I don’t think Rigo stands much of a chance at 130.

    • ceylon mooney

      man thats well thought out.

      • Roberto Carlos Guerra

        Thanks.

        • ceylon mooney

          i want rigo to win but…as different as those fighters are that analogy is spot on.

  • FLOMATARD
    • Stephen M

      This photo is so weird. Garcia looks like he is the same size as André the giant. If this is not an optical illusion I have to rethink my pick between them…

      • FLOMATARD

        hahaha look at Mikey’s head size compared to Loma

        • Terry Cochran

          Yea it’s a big target if they fight.

      • Dan O’Rourke

        Remember loma was shedding weight for the fight. Mikey is on vacation

        • Stephen M

          Yeah, but do their heads shrink?

    • Mike Prado

      Bro this pic’s weirding me out…

  • IanF69

    It really was just a waste of training camp and Loma’s time…..and mine for watching it…..Love the guy’s ability but only when its a worthy opponent.

  • Colin Mc Flurry.

    Loma and his fans deserve a better stage to showcase his sublime skills, than a hopeless opponent in front of 4,000 spectators.
    Get to work Bob.

    Rigo is far too small and old, at 130lb Loma makes mincemeat out of him.

    135lb – Mikey and Linares is were the action is at.

    • mikescapes

      Mikey v Linares is where the action is. That is if Mikey is willing to drop to 135lbs. I checked the rankings at Jr. Lightweight. There are Berchelt, Corrales, and Gervanta Davis at the top of the list. Forget Salida. If matches could be made why can’t Loma clear out the division?

      Lousy fight. Lousy coverage by ESPN. Started late, interrupted by tennis. Teddy couldn’t stop running his mouth about how fantastic Loma is. Of course, Teddy can’t stop running his mouth about anything. The network sold the fight on the Great Loma and delivered a dog. I don’t enjoy show-off fighters trying to build name recognition on the back of a mediocre opponent.

      Speaking of hype, the ESPN pitch that Green Card Beltran was fighting for his life got annoying. Based on the old man’s performance mightn’t be a bad idea if he took a powder. It’s such bullshit. There’s no way Beltran gets deported.

  • Bar Kokhba

    I’m a bigger fan of Rigondeaux than most – I think he’s one of the most skilled boxers in the game today – but for Arum (or Rosenthal) to say that Rigondeaux has ‘chased a big fight for years’ just doesn’t ring true for me.

    He’s fought once a year for the past four years. The last name of note on his record is Agbeko – a fight that took place in 2013. From my perspective, he’s been content to play with the sanctioning bodies’ ‘mandatory challengers’ and wait for the big fights to come to him, rather than seeking them out.

    Lomachenko, on the other hand, strikes me as a fighter actively looking for a big fight: remaining busy, aggressively calling out challengers, jumping weight classes, accepting negotiable purses (e.g. the Walters fight) and generally maintaining the appearance of a guy who wants to fight. Sadly, it appears it’s too late for Rigondeaux to start emulating Lomachenko’s career model; Rigo’s pissed away his prime, and he has no one to blame but himself. Nothing sadder than ‘what could have been.’

  • Nixtradamus

    The Lomachenko hype train is going full speed. I mean, the guy is a very good boxer, but nothing is his record (including a loss to tough journeyman Salido) warrants the crazy claims or top P4P ranking. He needs to face some good, solid opponents before we can know how good this guy really is. Linares, Garcia, etc., would make for legitimate opposition. Hell, even Rigondeaux at 126 (the Cuban would win, in my opinion) would be a great fight.

    Until then, the Loma hype is just that: hype. All-time greats don’t let journeymen like Marriaga damage their face (mouse under eye) or lose decisions to guys like Salido. But he is a very good boxer, no question about it. Needs to do far more before the hype becomes reality.

    • RayK

      You know he wants to avenge that loss. I think they should pay Salido what he wants. He deserves it! Surely the next one will please you.

    • FLOMATARD

      Yeah Gary Russel Jr, Roman Martinez and Walters are not legitimate opponents.

  • Floridastorm

    First thing is that Marriaga is a very skilled boxer/puncher and nowhere near the pushover that they are making him out to be. It’s just that he was in with by far the best fighter in the ring today. He did hit Lomo with some hard shots that may have put any other fighter down. Nobody, including Crawford, is going to defeat Lomo. Nobody. His skills are unmatched. He hits much harder than anyone realizes. Seems to badly hurt ever fighter he has fought. Made a very good fighter and pretty hard puncher, Marriaga, look like an amateur. Lomo is worthy of all of the praise he is getting. He’s also a very decent a caring fellow.

    • Ewan Leaper

      Err, Salido already did beat him… Lomachenko is special but he’s highly unlikely to be untroubled by the likes of Garcia or Crawford and he’s got to start facing fighters of that calibre before we know he’s as good as you think he is, which I personally find unrealistic.

      • IRISHBOXING NUT STEVIE

        crawford imo would be far to big for him garcia at 135 would be a great fight but anything above that i see loma struggling hes a small junior lightweight

        • Julio

          Crawford is in indeed a little too big for Lomachenko, but I would more concerned about Vasyl being able to retain his sublime skills as he moves up in weight. If he can still perform like this, I think he will give Crawford and everybody else hell.

          • IRISHBOXING NUT STEVIE

            agree his movement is what makes him stand out hopefully he doesnt lose that moving up

          • Mauro Hermida

            I see a pretty decent puncher at 130 who has to win with accumulation. At 135 it will be less. If he doesn’t have the power to really get respect at 135, it will be more chess matches by then. I don’t believe he can even hurt linares that bad and he isn’t hurting mikey.

          • Julio

            That’s the thing. He is not hurting people to win his fights, even now. Marriaga wasn’t hurt, but he was overwhelmed, just like Walters was. Its not his punching power, but his surreal ability that leave opponents absolutely baffled and leave them no other option but to quit.

          • Floridastorm

            His last 3 fights, Walters, Sosa, Marriaga, all RTD. Quit on their stools due to the beatings they were taking and feeling the hard shots coming from Lomo. I believe that Lomo scared Walters into quitting as he had never been hit so hard and so many times. He actually could see himself being carried out on a stretcher. Lomo is just going to continue to get better and better. He could shore up his defense just a little which would make him a truly elite fighter.

      • Stephen M

        The Salido fight was Lomachenko still green as a pro. I think that Garcia is too conventional to trouble Loma. Crawford seems like a big ask. I’d have to see Loma at 140 first.

        • Mauro Hermida

          Loma already had what 7 fights from a tournament before his supposed start as a pro. And for all the he was green excuses, he fought a grizzled vet who had his prime being him.

          • Terry Cochran

            A 395w and 1L amateur career tells it all. I wonder who beat him?

          • Stephen M

            Albert Selimov. Loma avenged that loss a couple of times.

          • Stephen M

            Yeah, he fought six fights. Six 5 round fights against other amateurs. That should get anyone ready for a 12 round fight against Salido.

        • Mauro Hermida

          We don’t even know if loma can take a clean shot and he will get hit by mikey, who isn’t as athletic but is every bit as skilled.

          • Stephen M

            Loma fought Salido, Walters and GRJ and we don’t even know if he can take a clean shot. That should tell you something.

          • Angel

            He lost to salido, GRJ had a crap resume, overrated. Walters was a good win and tells you Loma has next level skills but still the OP is spot on, there are questions about Lomachenko, a big one is his ability to take a good shot and being susceptible to the type of fight Salido fought. Garcia and Crawford would definitely chin check Loma and I seriously doubt he has the power to hurt either one, discourage them yeah maybe.

          • Stephen M

            The Salido fight is a one-off. How will another opponent replicate it being Loma’s second pro fight and first fight over 5 rounds? Of course they can come in overweight and hit low a lot…

            GRJ is now rated at #2 in the featherweights…
            Right now, I don’t think Crawford should be in the conversation. Just too big. Garcia? I like him but who is his best win? Broner? Salido? How do they compare to Loam?

          • Angel

            I actually don’t take much away from Loma for the Salido fight, but I also can’t cherry pick fights, same can be said for GRJ who fought nobodies before he lost to Loma ,has since done well but has only fought 4 times and In my opinion not done nearly enough to be ranked #2. Don’t get me wrong, I’m high on Loma but I’m keeping it real, he has to prove his worth and I hope he get’s a chance to do that.

            As for Garcia, he has the better resume (not a great one but better), he beat Salido who beat Loma, moved up in weight for Broner 3 weight title holder, more pro experience, 3 weight title holder himself. He too has a long way to go to prove himself. If they fought now at 135 I would see it as 50/50 but if I were a betting man I would have Mickey by late rounds KO.

          • Stephen M

            I have Loma by UD.

          • Floridastorm

            Salido is one of the biggest punchers out there and Lomo went 12 rounds with him and never got hurt once. It was a very close split decision. He took shots from Walters, a big puncher, GRJ, a big puncher, and Marriaga, also a big puncher. Never even flinched. Against Garcia and Crawford they would be too busy defending against Lomo’s output to put together any serious offense of their own. Not saying that both of them would not give Lomo a fight. But, IMO, the outcome would be the same. Lomo is a physical specimen who had nearly 400 amateur fights losing only 1. His stamina alone would tire out most fighters.

      • ceylon mooney

        totally different lomachenko now than then

      • Dan O’Rourke

        He’s improved every fight

      • Kingarella

        Salido refused the rematch so thats why we watched Loma fightin against Marriaga

    • IanF69

      Crawford has more than a chance…I personally would make Bud an overwhelming favorite…but as my bookie says…I know shit.

    • ceylon mooney

      hmn…i cant get
      with that. not willing to say crawford cant win.

    • Larry Connor

      I’m a huge like fan, but you are exaggerating.

    • Mauro Hermida

      You must be pissing serious koolaid right. Get outta here with that garbage. His resume is nowhere near a murderers row and for all his skill, he did lose to a past it brawler who used every veteran trick to fluster him.

      • Terry Cochran

        Yet the guy that beat him turned down a rematch that would have made him last night’s opponent.

        • Kingarella

          thank you

        • left hook

          That’s not the point. The point is that the veteran beat lomachenko..simple.

      • Stephen M

        Salido was #2 Ring ranked featherweight at the time. And “Fight Night Weigh In: Salido 147 lbs., Lomachenko 136 lbs.” Quoted from boxrec.

        • Mauro Hermida

          Past his prime, 50 fights, still won. I thought lomachenko has the greatest set of skills currently. Everyone here thinks he is untouchable. He got cocky and caught an l. It happens.

          • Stephen M

            He was a little cocky and took a loss in his second pro fight.He still has things to proove most definetely. He did beat both Walters and GRJ convincingly, two guys that I would say are arguably better than anyone Garcia has on his resume.

    • Mauro Hermida

      In marriagas two step up fights he lost. He lost to a guy loma beat easy. I thought he spent a majority of his career at 122. You are greatly overrating him. He isn’t even a contender at 126.

      • Stephen M

        Boxrec has Marriaga fighting his whole career at 126.

        • Mauro Hermida

          Ok. I will state again, he isn’t a contender at that weight. He already clearly lost to Walters. He is fringe maybe gatekeeper at 126. If loma didn’t dominate him, he would have looked bad. Marriaga spent most of that fight in retreat. It was a shit fight. I’m just surprised marriaga tagged him that much and marked him up. Linares and Garcia will be Huge step ups compared to anything he has faced. Boxing fans really do hug the nuts too quickly.

          • Julio

            Marriaga tagged him a few times because Lomachenko was hell bent about his offense last night. Against Walters he didn’t take those chances and the result was largely the same sans the knockdowns.

          • Mauro Hermida

            Don’t make excuses. I was surprised he fought like that. It was dumb. He got cut and both eyes were marked. Not smart. I just hope he doesn’t do that against higher caliber guys. He could lose and badly.

          • Julio

            No excuses pal. I saw his fight against Walters and Lomachenko was definitely more responsible with his defense while he dismantled Walters both physically and mentally.

          • Stephen M

            And if he fought a “smart” fight, like Floyd, everyone would say he was dull. Oh, so maybe he didn’t fight the perfect fight? Knock out the other guy, who is in a defensive shell, without getting hit. Well ok, he didn’t do that.

          • Mauro Hermida

            Let’s see Walters doesn’t fight for 18 months, comes in with zero game plan and quits. He is ok at 130. He struggled with sosa, who is also ok. Loma has a lot to prove. He is skilled, but that doesn’t mean shit if you cannot show them against the best. I just get tired of all the cock suckling on this site. Boxing fans can be a dumb bunch full of baseless claims and ridiculous worship. People need to relax.

          • Julio

            That was Walters’ problem (his inactivity and lack of a game plan). At the time, MOST people though that he would give Lomachenko a rough night being such a big puncher and huge for the division. Another wipeout. Nobody is (at least not me) is worshiping Loma. He is just so far passing the eye test in my view. And like you, I want to see him take on the likes of Garcia, Linares, Rigo, Berchelt, Rigo, etc.

  • RStech

    Rigo will not allow himself to be humiliated in defeat. Which is exactly what would happen if he gets in the ring with Loma. Rigo can tweet all he wants about how he wants this fight, but he will price himself out when his bluff is called.
    Davis will never fight him, he has Uncle Floyd protecting him and his “0” for as long as they can. They won’t even put him in there with Rigo, let alone Loma.
    I think Berchelt would take a fight with Loma and it would b a good scrap. He might even last the distance. Mikey Garcia and Crawford are the only two who I can see giving Loma a competitive fight between 135-140. If Loma stays at 130 I’d rather see him rematch Russell Jr. than Salido. Linares would be a good fight at 135 also.

  • joe blanco

    I can’t believe the bitching that so many posters have about Loma. Most fighters who became pro as gold medals winners , national amateur champs, don’t even fight the type of competition Loma has taken on until their 18-23 fight. At this point they are still getting the hang of the pro game fighting very limited fighters. Even Marriaga was a top 10 guy and people still complain. Andre Ward who so many posters love so much did not fight for a title until his 20th fight. His opponents records for his first 10fights were all against fighters with less than 10 fights each, except 1 fighter who had 12 fights. And Rigo refuses to fight anyone of note. His best win was against Donaire and how long ago was that and who and how many fights has he had since?

  • Black Oracle

    Another impressive anticlimactic fight by Loma. He deserves to pad his resume….he doesn’t have a lot of pro fights , I get that. But wake me when he gets in the ring with a true contender. Loma is the real deal, although he doesn’t have a lot of fights he is still on the pound 4 pound list. So I need to see a Linares or someone of that caliber fight soon or this guy becomes Rigo to me. Supreme talent wasted on marginal talent.

  • Emeka Nnaji Jr.

    Lomachenko looked good as usual but the fight was clearly fixed. Marriaga did not come to fight at all. Yes Vasyl helped with making his opponent be inactive, but come on. The two knock downs were both bogus. Vasyl barely touched him, they looked more like Marriage was off balance. Arum clearly wanted to make sure Lomachenko looked spectacular on his espn debut.

  • Mauro Hermida

    Lomachenko got pretty badly marked up. Knowing he was the bigger and better man, not very cautious. At least he went for it. Still sureprising that he was marked up pretty well. Can fight like that against the top dogs.

  • JV316

    marraiga wasn’t that bad, we’ve seen much worse opponents in showcases. i thought he did a good job of connecting a bit and frustrating lomachanko enough to force him to show off his skills

  • Don Badowski

    Salido turned down a 750K payday to rematch Loma. Too bad. However, Rigo is even more delusional when it comes to getting paid. He has a pretty weak fan base (those who would actually travel and pay to see him fight). However, he continues to act as though his skill set is what should get him the lion’s share of the purse.
    Last nights’ fight was a bad joke. It was one thing that Loma totally outclassed Marriaga. But he was also the bigger guy. On the bright side, everyone behaved like sportsman, and it didn’t cost me a thing.

  • Teddy Reynoso

    And the public should not be SUBJECTED to another (mis)match up like Lomachenko-Marriaga. Touche!

  • Left Hook2

    Let’s make one thing clear…Rigo should take whatever scraps are offered. He brings nothing to the table. Nothing. If he doesn’t take the scraps, then hopefully a fight between Loma and Berchelt can be made. Or maybe Salido looks at his bank account and say..hmmm. $750K isn’t too bad to get my a$$ whipped…

  • Dan James

    If we are talking BUD, why not Manny @140 I like that fight better. Two offensive shifty guys. I will pay to see that one!

  • Donald Walton

    Rig can’t get a bigger payday than this. Take it.

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