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Editor’s note: Apologies for the shorter than usual mailbag, folks. I’m on family vacation this week and thus not able (nor allowed to) spend as much time behind my laptop as I normally would during such a busy week in boxing. But I hope you enjoy this half-sized bag.

 

FAKE OUTRAGE FOR MAYWEATHER-MCCGREGOR TOUR

Floyd makes himself look like an a$$ the way he is acting, but I know he is laughing all the way to the bank, it is what it is. But anyone who thinks they (Mayweather and Conor McGregor) are being sincere needs to allow JMM to provide them his special “blend” of sports drink.

The “yeeaaaah”, the “b*tch” this, “b*tch” that, is not close to sincere, the pretending to steal his money sack, the way they are in each other’s faces, shouting and pretending to want to f*ck each other up is over the top fake.

Floyd is a master marketing machine, the attention this has garnered us unlike anything I have seen. I mean, ESPN is covered with this, it has overshadowed everything on all sports websites by far.

Floyd is even putting out tax stories about himself to grab more headlines. I’m not saying it is not real, but he has HIS website interviewing his tax lawyer, etc., just giving it all more life.

It is fictitious, but it has garnered a LOT of attention.

I was in amazement, I saw something on ESPN that said “McGregor was seething at Floyd in the flag”… I mean, has this reporter ever taken his head out of his own a$$ to see the real world? Thank you. – Jason C. Brown

Hey, if it’s OK for Mayweather to play the role of the “mega-heel,” and for McGregor to do his best imitation of Rick Flair, and for both stars to spout make-believe animosity toward each other to the delight of their fans, who are merely pretending the Aug. 26 event is a real fight, then I think it should be OK for sports writers to fake a little outrage when the public press tour goes over the top with inappropriate theatrics.   

It’s a fake fight, dude. There should be nothing but fakery from everyone involved and from anyone concerned with it.

Floyd makes himself look like an a$$ the way he is acting, but I know he is laughing all the way to the bank, it is what it is. But anyone who thinks they (Mayweather and Conor McGregor) are being sincere needs to allow JMM to provide them his special “blend” of sports drink. I don’t disagree. And I think it’s fine if this is how Mayweather wants to promote himself or his events, especially this one. But at the same time, he can’t be mad at “hater” fans and media that view him as an ass, if he’s the one “making himself look like an ass,” as you put it. And if he’s the one putting the IRS troubles out there, he (and his team, and his supporters) can’t get mad if the press writes and talks about it, or if “haters” ridicule him over it.

The “yeeaaaah”, the “b*tch” this, “b*tch” that, is not close to sincere, the pretending to steal his money sack, the way they are in each other’s faces, shouting and pretending to want to f*ck each other up is over the top fake. Again, it’s a fake fight, so it’s appropriate the buildup is 100% theater for cretins. But you have to wonder what the hell is wrong with the folks who view this s__t as real.

Floyd is a master marketing machine, the attention this has garnered us unlike anything I have seen. I mean, ESPN is covered with this, it has overshadowed everything on all sports websites by far. That’s true. There’s no denying that there’s big audience out there for this event. I was thinking MayMac would do between 2-2.5 million PPV buys in the U.S. when it was first announced. Now I think it will definitely exceed that number. And there’s nothing wrong with that. If folks are into the silliness and want to take sides and root for their guy, and if they’ve got the disposable income and wish to put more money in the pockets of Mayweather and McGregor, then I hope they enjoy the actual “fight” as much as they have the public press tour. God Bless ‘em.

 

THE SAVAGE SCIENCE

Hey Doug,

I’m really looking forward to a bit of the “savage science” this Saturday night courtesy of Miguel Berchelt-Takashi Miura and Sullivan Barrera-Joe Smith Jr. Miura is one of my favorite action fighters with that sledge hammer straight left and thudding right hook to the body, and Berchelt puts together gorgeous, Marquez-esque combinations when he gets going.

As for Smith-Barrera, I was surprised to see the bookies solidly favoring Barrera in what seems like a pick’em fight to me. Smith’s power is for real and while he isn’t exactly the most polished fighter, he makes up for it well with his determined aggression.

On a side note, could you give us your five favorite practitioners of the savage science for the current landscape, as well as your top five since you’ve been a fan? – Jake

Hmmmm… I think my top five current Savage Scientists (if you’re just talking about world-class/elite boxers) have to be Orlando Salido, Wisaksil Wangek, Miura, Francisco Vargas and Roman Gonzalez. For my money, these three junior lightweights and two junior banties give more of themselves than most active fighters do every time they step into the ring.

My top five since I’ve been a fan are probably Erik Morales, Iran Barkley, Micky Ward, Arturo Gatti and Bert Cooper. (All of my favorite fighters, even the great Sugar Ray Leonard, had a savage streak in them. They all had that fire in the ring, but guys like Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Terry Norris, James Toney and Marco Antonio Barrera, could also be expert boxers when they wanted or needed to be. ‘El Terrible’ could have boxed on their level if he gave a rat’s ass, but I thank the dark gods of the boxing pantheon that the Tijuana native didn’t.) The five guys that I listed couldn’t stop themselves from getting into grueling, often bloody, ring wars.

I’m really looking forward to a bit of the “savage science” this Saturday night courtesy of Miguel Berchelt-Takashi Miura and Sullivan Barrera-Joe Smith Jr. That’s because you are a real boxing fan.

Miura is one of my favorite action fighters with that sledge hammer straight left and thudding right hook to the body, and Berchelt puts together gorgeous, Marquez-esque combinations when he gets going. Their styles, strengths and ring mentalities should mesh to give something special – and savage – on Saturday. I can’t wait. I favor Berchelt by decision or late stoppage, but I expect the battle-tested (maybe battle-worn) Japanese veteran to inflict more damage on the 25-year-old WBC beltholder than Vargas was able to in January.

As for Smith-Barrera, I was surprised to see the bookies solidly favoring Barrera in what seems like a pick’em fight to me. Maybe it’s that Cuban mystique. Or maybe they figure Smith’s two signature victories came against a shop-worn (or faded) fringe contender and a near-52-year-old man. Or maybe they’re just impressed with Barrera’s recent form. Regardless, nobody should be counting Smith out in this excellent 175-pound matchup. I favor the power-punching New Yorker. I think his speed, length/reach, and explosive power will get to Barrera before the solid Cuban technician is able to get his own heavy shots going. I like JSJ by mid-rounds TKO in a crowd-pleasing shootout.

Smith’s power is for real and while he isn’t exactly the most polished fighter, he makes up for it well with his determined aggression. Agreed. And if he wins this fight, nobody can deny him his place among the top light heavyweights. Same can be said of Barrera if he wins. I wish both 175 pounders luck and hope to see the winner take on Sergey Kovalev or Adonis Stevenson next.

 

BOXING AFTER DARK

smith-barrera is gonna rule. effin a. jezreel corrales takin lomachenko next? berchelt gonna steady break down miura. can’t wait for that either. takashi uchiyama done for good? – Ceylon

I think Uchiyama has at least one more world-class effort in him. I don’t care to see a third match with Corrales, but I’d love to see the Berchelt-Miura winner accept his challenge (if he offers it).

smith-barrera is gonna rule. Apart from a premature stoppage or too many fouls/roughhouse tactics, I can’t see how this matchup won’t be compelling.

jezreel corrales takin lomachenko next? I’m sure he’d like to test his talent and skillset against the marvelously gifted Ukrainian but the Panamanian southpaw would do well not to overlook Robinson Castellanos (that dude is soooooooooooo much better than his record would indicate).

berchelt gonna steady break down miura. That’s what I (and most pundits) envision happening, but we should not count Miura out. That man is one of the purest warriors in the sport.

 

EUBANK VS. ABRAHAM

Dougie!

Long time reader, first time writer, big time admirer.

Some boxing nuts and I are going to the Eubank Jr vs Abraham clash at Wembley Arena, London, this Saturday.

Since the Saunders loss, Eubank Jr has become a relentless dynamo, derailing his opponents with the sheer accumulation of those uppercuts and hooks. But he doesn’t seem to have knockout power, so will he be able to get through Abraham’s solid guard enough to eventually break the Armenian-German warhorse down?

Is Abraham too smart around the ring, too experienced to allow Eubank Jr to work him over? Will he be able to test Eubank Jr’s chin with those slow(ing), but well-timed and heavy, counters?

I’m torn on this one Dougie, help me out! Who’s your pick?

One last thing, if Junior does get through Abraham, what do you think his potential is at Super-middleweight? How would he fair against the main Champions: Degale (IBF), Ramirez (WBO) and Groves (WBA)?

Mythical Match up:

Chris Eubank Snr vs Chris Eubank Jr at Middleweight, and also at Super-middleweight.

Cheers. – Lawrence, London, UK

I think the best version of Eubank Sr. at 160 and 168 would easily outpoint his son. Eubank Jr. doesn’t possess the kind of aggressive, high-volume style that gave his old man problems.

But I should note that I don’t believe that we’ve seen the best of Eubank Jr. yet. If he beats Abraham – as I expect him to, on points – perhaps his potential will emerge during his participation in the World Boxing Super Series.

Since the Saunders loss, Eubank Jr has become a relentless dynamo, derailing his opponents with the sheer accumulation of those uppercuts and hooks. But he doesn’t seem to have knockout power, so will he be able to get through Abraham’s solid guard enough to eventually break the Armenian-German warhorse down? I think Eubank has knockout power. He just doesn’t have one-punch KO power. That’s OK. He seems to know how to wear down your average rugged types. I was impressed with his 12th-round stoppage of Dimitry Chudinov in his first bout after the

Chris Eubank Jr, (left) and Arthur Abraham. Photo courtesy of Poxon Sports on Twitter

close decision loss to BJS. If he can chop that tough young gun down, he might be able to do the same to this aged version of Abraham, although that may not be the plan that his father and his team have for him.

Honestly, I don’t know if he can break Abraham down but I think he’ll be able to get to the two-division titleholder enough to out outpoint the veteran. He may not always pierce Abraham’s high guard with his fast power shots, but he’ll get off first and (I assume) he’ll get out of range before the older man can do anything about it.

Is Abraham too smart around the ring, too experienced to allow Eubank Jr to work him over? I think Abraham has the experience and veteran guile to give Eubank a test, but I don’t think he’s got the athleticism and stamina at this stage of his career to outmaneuver or outhustle the younger man.

Will he be able to test Eubank Jr’s chin with those slow(ing), but well-timed and heavy, counters? We’ll find out on Saturday, but if Eubank’s chin is half as sturdy as his old man’s whiskers were, I don’t think Abraham will be able to seriously hurt him.

One last thing, if Junior does get through Abraham, what do you think his potential is at Super-middleweight? How would he fair against the main Champions: Degale (IBF), Ramirez (WBO) and Groves (WBA)? I think he’s a live dog or even money against all three beltholders, and there’s a chance that he’ll get to challenge Groves in the WBSS. I think Euby Jr. is a welcome addition to the 168-pound division.

 

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  • Chris Stans

    considering both are known as big trash talkers I was surprised by how unimaginative their barbs were. Mcgregor mostly just fills normal sentences with profanity and it’s clear Mayweather ran out of material after the first 5 minutes

    • TMT NYC Da Real Ghostbusters

      They should at least have resorted to insulting each other’s mom!

    • Jody Hanna

      That’s because Mayweather is a charmless halfwit.

      • Stephen M

        I can’t stand the guy and he is certainly without charm, education or culture but he must have a brain in that noggin of his otherwise his entourage would have stolen him blind.

        • Koninbeor

          Takes a while to get robbed blind, though. He hasn’t been out of the game that long.

          • Stephen M

            True enough. Time will tell. Tyson lost it pretty quickly by comparison though.

          • Koninbeor

            He did but look how much more money Mayweather has made. Tyson’s whole career isn’t even one fight for Money. I think King got most of Tyson’s money, though.

      • ceylon mooney

        dont he have writers for this
        shit?

        • Carlos

          yeah, but you still have to have the ability to read. May can’t read.

        • Jody Hanna

          He probably does, but he can’t read.

    • Rick

      I can’t watch that crap but I would assume Floyd would call him a leprechaun at some point.

  • IanF69

    Eubank Jnr should beat Abraham this week-end and progress to the WBSS, but for me the winner of that will be Callum Smith…..the guy can box and bang and has yet to prove where he should be in the SMW Division.

    • Orca

      Not sure if Eubank really will join the WBSS despite what we’ve heard. Hope so though. I just think, if he does, he might be a bit of a liability unless the contracts are iron clad. I’m a fan of the guy and hope he keeps on winning.i pick Smith to win it too.

      • IanF69

        Have you heard he was withdrawing (if he wins) ?…shame…. because he does bring that bit of showman ship and, well, unique style and arrogance….but for all his talent I’d take Mundo to stop him in his tracks….Looking forward to it and the LHW’s…Cheers M8

        • Orca

          I’d love if he was in it and actually thinks the comp needs him him. I just think he and his dad are hard to deal with, with regard to setting up fights. If he commits and there’s no wiggle room in the contracts then I’ll be very happy. He’s a good fighter with a bit of personality about him. I’ll be watching on Saturday and hoping he wins convincingly.

  • Michel Desgrottes

    I literally saw canelo and ggg on the Wall Street journals YouTube page, playing rock em sock em robot

    A toy from the 70s

    That’s how they are promoting their fight and trying to respond to the maymac circus

    What the hell are Oscar and tom loeffler doing

    GGG and canelo fight, as much as hardcores in the past clamored for the fight, have had their fight sucked out of the media spotlight cause of maymac

    And I dot know how these promoters can respond, so far their efforts have paled in comparison

    Y’all better never boast about k2 being a great promoter again, the fact these twos English languages are good enough where they can fluently talk to each other is a problem in itself

    Like rock em sock em??? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/eab7ae9da7858ab3b5d621adfaf063f8c346f474b4ae8f154007180600d8347d.jpg

    • Rick

      I would rather watch GGG and Canelo play tennis than that stupid Mayweather shit. Maybe they feel like they don’t need to degrade themselves to sell a fight. I’m sure GGG-Canelo will do just fine without the stupidity some of you seem to enjoy.

      • Larry Connor

        Depends on what you call just fine. I promise you that the power that be would loooooovvvvvee to do MayMac numbers or to even have 1/10 the buzz that Floyd has going right now.

        • Charlie U.

          Lowest common denominator

        • Orca

          You’re not comparing like for like there. May Mac isn’t a ‘boxing’ fight….is it? It’s a cross-sport pantomime. GGG Canelo is a real fight that appeals to boxing fans. You just can’t compare.

          • Larry Connor

            We are speaking on marketing as a whole man. Too many excuses for failure. Floyd has been generating numbers with boxing matches also

        • Stephen M

          I’m sure that Golden Boy and everyone involved would like to make a lot of money. Personally of course, I don’t give a shit, why should I? I can tell a good fight from a circus without much help ( Ok, I read this mailbag and the Daily Bread mailbag, they help).
          Is this really what we should call quality promoting and do you really want to bring your kids to watch this?:
          “Mayweather: This ain’t shit but a circus clown. And a pussy. I ain’t never quit. And never will….He’s a con artist. He’s a quitter. Real fighters don’t quit. You fucking eejit.
          McGregor: Fuck you.
          Mayweather: You fucking eejit.
          McGregor: Fuck you and your high heels.
          Mayweather: You fucking eejit.
          McGregor: Get them high heels off you little fucking squirt.
          Mayweather: You fucking eejit. You fucking circus clown. You ho. You stripper. You bitch. I run this show. This is my ho. And I threw one dollar bills on this bitch. That’s a $3 million fighter against an $800 million fighter. I ain’t running nowhere but to the bank!”.

          And this is promoting a great big nothingburger.
          This is the same type of stuff that Trump used to get elected. And yeah, I get it,Trump got elected and Floyd is rich. So they must be right, right?

          Sorry for getting all deep on you, but it just seems that our society right now is all about getting to the top by any means and fuck everybody and everything.

          Sorry, I won’t be defending that.

          • Orca

            Jesus. Is that an actual transcript? And I agree, we don’t get a cut so why should we care?

          • Stephen M

            Directly quoted from FightNews.com

          • Turner Wednesday

            Yes, word for word. And there was a lot more from that very same gutter.

          • Larry Connor

            Yet we allow Loma to duck Rigo based on money. Smh

          • Stephen M

            Ok. I’ll put that down to you not having an answer.

          • Jorge

            Nope he doesn’t.

          • Mauro Hermida

            He isn’t ducking anyone, cmon man. I don’t see it. He has challenged himself or do you not believe that fighting a tough guy like Salido as your second fight merits some appreciation? Hearing Rigo crow about wanting a fight is not the same as signing on the dotted line. You honestly believe Loma fears that guy. I bet at this point he knows only a few people will care that he beat a 122 pound title holder because that is all Rigo is. It would do nothing to advance Loma’s legacy imo.

          • D Johnson

            And Larry is the same guy that goes on and on about other peoples “agendas”. Its bullshit in its purest form.

          • Ewan Leaper

            The Rigondeaux fans calling the usual “ducking” crap are speaking utter nonsense. Lomachenko is fighting shortly and Rigondeaux is a highly inactive type of fighter, to make the fight would have taken months and this chat all began only a month or two back.

            When Lomachenko is the opposite of Rigo by staying busy then that wouldn’t have made any sense- he’d have had to wait 5-6 months. I believe these two will fight, this is perhaps the stupidest ducking allegation I’ve seen yet.

          • D Johnson

            you cant duck someone not in your weight class.

          • Chris Stans

            Especially when u have every advantage over them

          • Mauro Hermida

            Floyd is running to the bank to take out his cash before the IRS gets it.

          • Stephen M

            I’ll wait and see if that is just another angle to build up the fight, uh, I mean event…

          • FLOMATARD

            McGregor: Fook ya

      • FLOMATARD

        Burrrn

    • Charlie U.

      I thought it was a funny bit. Plus, it’s two competitors showing some class and not resorting to the stuff that’s going on in the other promotion.

      • Orca

        Agreed. It was just a bit of light hearted fun.

      • Larry Connor

        Guys fight for money and pride in boxing. So far Canelo is getting the pride part right as well as ggg, but you can’t tell me that either one of them would have turned down the money Floyd is getting to fight Conor.

        • Stephen M

          And the reason I should care about that is?

          • Larry Connor

            The same reason that you guys are up in arms and highly upset on this site about the fight. Why give so much attention to something you guys claim you care nothing about?,,,

          • Stephen M

            Not that I accept any of that but please tell me what the “same reason” is?

      • Stephen M

        The real question here is “Michel goes on the Wall Street Journal youtube page? Really?”.

    • Larry Connor

      That is 100 my man. I’ve been stressing the same thing as far as how terrible the two promoters are handling this fight. They have the way better product and still can’t promote this fight correctly when major competition is around. Shame on them

      • wrecksracer

        It’s true that GGG-Canelo is a better product. However, neither GGG or Canelo have anything resembling charisma. Neither really speak english. I think part of the reason Floyd chose to do the fight with McGregor is that both guys can sell a fight. Both guys are controversial. That being said, boxing promoters these days can’t seem to sell anything. When PPV’s were selling, they got fat and content. Now they aren’t, and all we are seeing is guys playing rock em sock em robots. I hate to say “Where is Don King when you need him” but it’s true.

        • Left Hook2

          oh..and McGregor has absolutely zero chance, none, of beating him. risk/reward.
          true about don king….damn crickets about the GGG-Canelo undercard. Where is Finito when you need him??

          • wrecksracer

            Those were the days. I think PPVs need to go back to multiple compelling fights per card.

          • Left Hook2

            So true. IF GGG-Canelo is worthy of 1 M buys, I would think that DLH would try to get his next hopeful star on the show in a decent scrap to start getting the fans to watch him. Every time I see someone from his stable sign to a fight that is not 9/16, I cringe. I don’t care to see Jacobs vs a no-hoper, but there is still hope for Matthyse. Please. Vs someone with a pulse…

          • Larry Connor

            True

        • Larry Connor

          I can’t argue with you there my friend. The promoters have gotten fat and lazy. It’s getting to the point where as fighters may have to start cutting promoters out.

    • Mark Schoeman

      OK, but the they’d be dumb to put their A marketing material out in an attempt to compete with Floyd/Conor. If anything you do very small, targeted stuff now, then the blitz starts a month out. Blow your good stuff when it gets lost in the shuffle would be a waste…especially if you childishly want to try and take attention from something else.

      And you’re positioning these fights as though they’re competing and I don’t know that they are. In fact, I think you’ll see the million or so, buy all Floyd does fans, and the 2 million strictly UFC fans…which makes a great payday, but I think GGG/Canelo is looking to get the 2 million boxing fans and 1 million combat sport fans who know Floyd/Conor isn’t a competitive fight.

      • Michel Desgrottes

        If Oscar calls this the biggest fight of boxing history, you’re gonna wait to promote heavy? Shouldn’t he be doing constantly top notch promotion, ggg and canelo won’t do as well as first projected, partly cause of their promoters

        If they were smart, they would take it off ppv and put it on espn

        • Larry Connor

          It’s obvious that Oscar knows he’s in over his head when it comes to matching up against Floyd and the UFC. No matter how good the product may be, the promoters are subpar. Oscar knows this. All he can do at the moment is hope and pray that his loyal commenters on the ring promotes for him and keep hope alive.

          • Stephen M

            Stop crying for Oscar, Larry, his net worth is estimated at 200$ million. He might not win a pissing contest with Floyd but he won’t be begging on a street corner anytime soon. I don’t get why you care…

          • Jorge

            He pays his taxes too.

          • Stephen M

            And does a little charity work if I’m not mistaken.

          • Lots…

          • Larry Connor

            At what point did I say or suggest I care about Oscars’s bank account. You guys love to duck real conversation unless it’s in agreement with one another.

            My concern is that he’s signing these fighters and not properly promoting them. He bashed Pbc for the moves they made on network Tv and now you have TOP RANK following the same blue print to a smaller degree. You guys catch on slow because of your loyalties and hatred, but your eyes will open soon. Shout out to showtime and Pbc for paving the way to getting named fighters back on network television.

          • Jorge

            Talk about not promoting fighters… PBC…

          • Stephen M

            Larry argues just about everything and anything to prove how smart he is and how dumb we are. Promoters aren’t promoting, fans aren’t supporting by paying for PPV and networks should show free boxing and not really promote or have their fighters fight. But it’s mostly “our” fault because we are dumb and stuck on bullshit mountain… Why do I bother…

          • Jorge

            He just contradicts himself all the time.

          • Stephen M

            In the same sentence.

          • Stephen M

            You do read your own posts, right?

          • Orca

            Ha. I’m thinking not. God bless the PBC.

          • Mauro Hermida

            Floyd will be broke in 10 years…Oscar, not so much. He can do the pissing contest later.

      • Larry Connor

        Stop it. I guarantee you that ggg/Canelo will not do half of what Floyd/Mac does. Floyd and Mac know what they are doing.

        • Koninbeor

          So what? Does that mean we should all watch MayMac while eating a Big Mac and fries? Eat the best selling food while we watch the best selling fight? Should we all just buy the best selling everything and constantly criticize everything else in the world that doesn’t do as well?

          MayMac is going to make more money and no knowledgeable person in the world is going to argue that point. That doesn’t mean that MayMac is going to be better. That doesn’t even mean that people are going to enjoy it more. If you want to shell out $100 to watch this fiasco then more power to you.

          • Larry Connor

            Are you Fucking guys slow??? I’ve never suggested you buy the May/Mac fight. I clearly said that ggg/Canelo is the better product as was ward/Kov etc, but you fuckers don’t support shit. You only sit around and bitch on boxing forums. Get your head out of your ass

          • Koninbeor

            You’re 100% right 100% of the time, Larry. You’re perfect and the entire universe revolves around you. Everything that everyone else says is wrong. We should all worship you as a god.

            The most awesome thing about you is how you’re right with absolutely no evidence, yet you still want others to provide it. Bravo, Larry. Bravo.

        • Orca

          You’re acting like you’re some prophet predicting that. We all know this. Why does this matter?I could list my top 100 fights and none of the top 10 highest grossing fights in history would be there. Yet it seems to be important to you? If it was Pac against Mac and it was about to break records etc etc…… Would you still be coming out with all this? I just don’t get your hard on for money, ppv figures and this farce of an event.

          • Larry Connor

            You dudes comprehension level is crazy. The point once again is why don’t you all support your favorite fighters instead of bitching in the comment sections. GGG/Canelo better product but you fuckers will stream the fight illegally, wait until the following week to watch the fight etc. you ever heard of the phrase “fake news” well there’s also what they call “fake fans”. Support the sport.

    • Mauro Hermida

      #Ireallydohaveanagenda

      • Michel Desgrottes

        U mad I see

        • Mauro Hermida

          You want to be Bob Arum I see. Don’t you defend the PBC all the time? Bob is running laps around that clown(Haymon).

          • Michel Desgrottes

            Oh word? While his number cash cow lost In Australia, they can’t book a great fighter for loma, and now bud can’t use the Manny fight for casual relevance, sure he running laps, didn’t Dana white work with haymon on the Conor fight, so new cash from a Floyd fight is good right? Look at u hating lmao smmfh

            U mad

    • Kudos

      Shut up you annoying twat

      • Michel Desgrottes

        U mad

        • FLOMATARD

          lmao u mad

      • ceylon mooney

        kudos upon kudos

      • Michel Desgrottes

        You mad

  • Charlie U.

    I watched yesterday’s Brooklyn press stop of Mayweather/McGregor and it is even worse than I imagined. Conor walked around the stage in a fur coat, screaming expletives with every other word, insulting everyone, saying that he’s half black from the waist down and doing pelvic thrust for the “beautiful black ladies in the audience.” Floyd, as inarticulate and unoriginal as ever, saying things that don’t make much sense like all work is easy work, forming Voltron with his big body guards around McGregor, and throwing dollar bills on stage. Two takeaways: 1) if they’re trying to convince people to take this fight seriously they’re not doing a very good job. 2) I dislike Mayweather as much or more than anyone. I will upvote any negative thing said about him almost on instinct. But I don’t want to hear anyone criticizing just Mayweather for this and excusing McGregor. He has been just as bad on this press tour and in some cases even worse. This thing is a joke.

  • Larry Connor

    There is not one casual fan ( those are the people who actually buys the tickets and PPV) talking about ggg/Canelo ( the far superior product). What does that tells you? Well it tells me that no one gives a Fuck about what a so called hardcore boxing fan thinks! You guys spend more time bitching and shitting on fighters in the comment section instead of supporting your favorite fighters when it really matters. Supporting in ways that are meaningful; buying tickets,PPV’s, suppprting weigh in’s, press tours etc. ward/Kov flopped both times because you all didn’t show up, but instead bitched about Ward. I can name several fights you guys destroyed in the comment sections and never support the fights.

    Guys like Floyd gets it. They realize that your opinions of them, your lack of support for them is irrelevant. All they need is to embrace the rolls you give them and run to the bank with it. The casual fans will eat it up and you guys will continue to hate it. You guys give Floyd the ability to make fights like his do numbers while really great fights this year and last year do basically nothing, but excuses.

    Like it or not, Floyd is the truth inside the ring and outside of it. The guy continue to break records left and right. You all excuses for his PPV numbers have always been, well it’s his opponent who’s bringing in the dollars, well it’s the Mexican holiday that’s generating the numbers, well it’s people wanting to see him lose that’s generating all of the numbers. Well I’m here to tell you that it’s Floyd himself who’s generating all the numbers. Just accept it. Take the good parts of what he does, leave out the bad parts and utilize it for other fights. The UFC gets it, but you guys do not. They embrace Floyd style, strategy, etc. (why do you think McGregor was born?). The spider,(silva) etc where more devestating fighters, but they were all missing something 🤔🤔🤔🤔. That Flair!! The Mayweather effect. Boom!!! Conor McGregor was born !! Brash, loves money, arrogant, ass hole, style and flair, abrasive, etc. the only thing different is the race. That’s why A.B. failed. We already had a black Floyd in boxing. No need for another one. Dana White and the Powers that be said, Let’s put a twist on it in the UFC. Now you are looking at a 3/4 of a billion dollar fight!! 😂😂😂😂.

    The fight is so powerful that Golden Boy can hardly get a word out about ggg/Canelo. Shame on Oscar for that. Outside of his open letter of hatred, it seems as if he’s clueless. Maybe he should pick up the phone and call Schafer

    The moral of the story is learn from everything. Don’t discount succes because you hate the person whom is succeeding. Use the knowledge to your advantage for the greater good of boxing.

    • Orca

      So much wrong with that post. I just haven’t got the time man. I’m off out to make the most of the sun. Hope you feel better now you’ve got that off your chest. You talk about money and numbers too much. Chill.

      • Larry Connor

        Not only do I talk about that, but some of your favorite fighters and hard core fans as well. It’s all part of the sport my man.

    • DougWilsonFan

      A. B. failed due to his own lack of discipline. Floyd always stayed in shape and came in at weight. Broner has multiple losses in part because he lacks the mental toughness of Floyd and leap frogged weight classes after being unable to curb his own desires

      • Larry Connor

        Look, boxing will never understand the importance of marketing and casual fans like other sports do. Floyd gets it.

        • D Johnson

          That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read so far this morning…..It’s early though Larry, keep going🙏

          • Stephen M

            LOL!

          • Larry Connor

            I didn’t expect to many on this particular site to get it. I just dropped it here anyway. Other sites took a whole other thought process with my post. It just shows that certain sites have certain agendas

          • D Johnson

            Agendas? you can’t be serious…smh. Now I know what the press feels like when they get briefings from the White House. good god! I’d be funny if you were kidding….kinda scary. Anyways, have a great weekend bud. 😢

          • Mauro Hermida

            His agenda has an agenda.

          • Orca

            No, it just shows that we are all different and have our own opinions.

          • Larry Connor

            Most do have their own opinion except when it comes to the majority of you guys.

          • Orca

            Good luck to you Larry. There really is no point in debating with you.

    • Jorge

      I agree there is so much wrong with this failed attempt at an argument. Broner failed because he isn’t that good, sometimes you need accountability for your actions in the ring. At the end of the day… you aren’t with the owe money team, you aren’t a marketer, you aren’t a promoter, you are just a boxing fan. And this isn’t a boxing fight. You should care more about boxing, having good match ups, and maintaining some integrity to the sport. As usual your loyalty isn’t with boxing but with Floyd. That’s why you lose credibility and nobody takes you serious. Just a groupie.

      • Larry Connor

        I’m not here for all of the back and forth name calling non sense. I could easily start talking shit and going back and forth with you, but that would be pointless. All you are doing is just reinforcing my point I made earlier about so called die hards talking shit in the comment sections and that’s about it. If you did more than talk shit, guys like ggg, ward, Canelo, chocalito, Crawford, Loma, etc would be high on the radar with casuals because they have the goods and the die hards are out on droves buying their fights and showing up at the arenas on a consistent basis.

        No matter how mad you are at Floyd and Conor. Boxing fans, UFC fans and casual fans will tune in to watch the fight. No matter how mad you are at Floyd and Conor. No fighter lacing up a pair of gloves would turn down the money Floyd is getting to do the fight. Not even your favorite fighter whomever that may be. So please quit bitching and learn how to support your favorite fighter so they can quit getting out shined by guys you claim to dislike.

        • Jorge

          Pointless is your argument which always consists of race baiting 101. Broner? that was the most stupid argument you could make, but I give you credit you consistently make stupid arguments. And yet you say you aren’t here for nonsense? Read your own posts.

          • Larry Connor

            So that’s all you got out of it was Broner???? Yea ok. Again point proven

          • Jorge

            Yeah it was a stupid argument.

    • Sean Kusel

      Missing the point mate. Boxing has always had a level of class (helps attract a specific demo) as a sport. Even comparing boxing promotion to the circus (which is worse than the WWE-never thought Id say that) which is MayMac is beyond insulting. Boxing is a sport not the theatre, I come to watch two atheletes in the ring not two divas roasting eachother. I dont need a bullshit story line, I just want good fights . I dont want to see fighters sell out and degrade themselves or create fake beef just for more PPV buys. Not what boxing should be about.

      • Larry Connor

        I understand where you are coming from and I totally agree with your perspective, but that’s not the point I was trying to make. I said take the good from how Floyd market his fights and leave the bad. There is something to learn in every thing some one does it’s all about a perspective. Just like you hate the way Floyd market his fights, you can’t be happy with the way Oscar is marketing the ggg/Canelo fight. You just can’t be happy with the effort. They have the much better product and probably will only do 20 percent of Floyd/Mac numbers.

        My other point which I made and people tend to ignore is the fact that so called die-hards do not support, just bitch and moan. We need to check ourselves and start supporting the type of fights we claimed to love instead of just yapping at the mouth.

        • Left Hook2

          True. How many Ward fans bought his fights with Kovalev? Yet they can’t wait to hop on the circus (or at least the posts that I have read on other sites give that impression…)

          • Larry Connor

            I agree. If you are boxing fans, you should support fights and fighters. Not ignore fights because of whom they are signed to or don’t want certain fighters to fight each other because they have a good. Hence at beating your fighter. Support the sport.

    • Jim Parkinson

      I think May-Mac is a joke and I’m not watching any of these stupid press conferences, but your post is spot-on. Ward-Kovalev was possibly the best matchup in the sport and produced two excellent fights, but they bombed financially. I bought the first one on PPV (no streaming) and attended the second one (and brought three friends with me). But most of the so-called fans on this site and others couldn’t be bothered to do those things. They claim to love the sport, but do nothing but criticize it. They support certain fighters, promoters and networks, but not the sport. When one of their favorites loses, it’s “That fight sucked. Boxing is a joke. Blah blah blah.” This mentality in a nutshell came from that imbecile Steven Keaton (who’s probably busy praying in front of his GGG shrine right now), who admitted that he rooted for PBC fights to turn out terrible. What kind of moron HOPES FIGHTS THAT FIGHTS ARE BORING? And let’s face it – a lot of people here who are trashing Mayweather for acting like a jackass (which he does), just LOVED it when Kovalev told Ward that he hit like a girl, that he would end his career, break his face, break his arm, etc.

      In a perfect boxing world, the best/most exciting matchups and fighters would get all the publicity and money, but it hasn’t been that way in a very long time. Mayweather and McGregor understand what pro wrestling established long ago – if you care about the people fighting, you will care about the fight. Does anyone think that Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, Duran, Tyson, etc didn’t have personalities that the general public latched onto? Were Muhammad Ali fights huge events because he fought like Arturo Gatti or Erik Morales in the ring?

      If GBP were smart, they’d send Canelo and GGG to the May-Mac press conferences. They’d draw a lot of eyeballs, and yes, Floyd and Conor would probably rip into them for being followers, but at least somebody would be talking about Canelo-GGG. They could market themselves as the “real” alternative to the “fake” event.

      May-Mac will do big business (I’m not paying for it). And if it provides even a little bit of action and drama, everyone will go home happy and it’ll be a great boost to the sport. All real boxing fans should be rooting for that to happen. We should also be rooting for Canelo-GGG to be a big hit and a spectacular fight as well. If these two things happen, 2017 will be the best year for the sport in at least three decades.

      And one more thing – GBP, you really should’ve put your fight in Dallas. You most likely would’ve sold 60,000 seats by now. You would’ve distinguished yourselves. Instead your “biggest fight ever” will be in Mayweather and McGregor’s arena. Nice job, guys!

      • Larry Connor

        You made my point way better than I did and I support you for that. I totally agree with everything you said.

      • philoe bedoe

        Your right about supporting the sport of boxing and they should have held the fight in Dallas.
        A fight of that magnitude deserves a big arena to match the event………..

        • Koninbeor

          Canelo didn’t want Mayweather to steal the date. By fighting in Las Vegas instead of Dallas, Canelo got the date he wanted.

      • Orca

        There’s only one scenario where boxing is going to be better off from this event and that’s if they stack the undercard with foty type fights and they deliver. The main event won’t do shit for boxing. It’s a joke.

  • Jorge

    Funny how the ones who proclaim themselves boxing purists and all about “hit and not get hit” . . .All of a sudden defend a fight against an MMA fighter making his debut in the sport because its Floyd.

    • D Johnson
      • Jorge

        Talk about getting hit

        • D Johnson

          Simular to how you hit Larry with the truth in that post above. Lmao

          • Jorge

            He’s not getting up Jim

          • D Johnson

            Larry said the dumbest I’ve read this morning, that, right there, was the funniest!!!😆

  • Left Hook2

    Great fights this weekend! Props to the circus guys, but remember, they are bringing two distinct fan bases together. Maybe Canelo should challenge Dale Earnhardt Jr to paintball…
    Seriously, this boils down to marketing. Mayweather is famous because 1. he was in a big PPV fight with Oscar–put many eyeballs on him 2. He knocked out the big show in an WWF PPV–put more eyeballs on him
    3. He was in the biggest PPV against the next biggest PPV star, Manny–who brought a ton of fans with him as well because he was singing on late night shows and crossed over.
    GGG-Canelo isn’t a fight to determine who is the biggest ‘crossover’ star. It is a great fight between two of the best high-level action fighters in the game. Canelo has Tecate, GGG has Jordan brand, but until they write huge checks to ESPN to be guests analysts on NFL gameday, they will (only) be two of the most popular boxers in the world. Period. Dougie–enjoy your time with your family. They are worth way more to you than us complaining b*tches!!

    • Dee Money

      Ha, that got me thinking, it would be kind of funny if they did an add where GGG and Canelo went around challenging people from other sports to box. Hit up golfers, drivers, etc.

      Wouldn’t change the amount of buys for the PPV, but would be funny.

      • Left Hook2

        That is hilarious. I’m going to call DLH right now…ha

        • Dee Money

          Please do, all I ask for in return for coming up with the idea is tickets to the fight. Have him hook it up for me.

    • LOL

  • philoe bedoe

    MayMac is what it is, and best of luck to both if they can make some serious cash out of it.
    I’ve no problem with all the over the top bravado, I used to be a wwe fan lol.
    But even my teenage sons and wife ( a long suffering boxing widow as said ” this isnt a real fight”…………..

  • Dee Money

    I would love for someone to do a study to try and see what the actual impact of these promotional tours are on PPV buys. If it is all possible to try and isolate that variable.

    I imagine that Mayweather v McGregor would’ve outsold GGG v Canelo even without this hype tour; they simply are bigger names. To argue that GGG v Canelo could somehow match ‘The Real Housewives of Combat Sports’ fake anger tour that is going on (or should even try), seems ridiculous to me.

    The success that MayMac will have in ppv buys will have little to nothing to do with this tour and most everything to do with their long established celebrity. To argue that GGG v Canelo should be trying to match them right now is mistaken.

    • Larry Connor

      I guarantee you Floyd fighting anyone of these guys would do bigger numbers than it would with them fighting each other for the simple fact that Floyd knows how to promote. And I also guarantee you that neither one of those guys would have turned down a fight vs Mac for the money Floyd is getting

      • Dee Money

        But I am not arguing that. I agree Floyd is the biggest name in boxing. My point is the amount of PPV buys has little to do with the promotional tour, or the whole fake arguments that May & Mac are getting into.

        • Larry Connor

          My main point I was trying to make is the fact that die hard fans need fi support their fighters more where it counts. Plain and simple. Some times I lose track of my point when I have to continue to argue senseless stuff with some of these guys.

          • Stephen M

            You make contradictory points: “It’s the promoters fault for not promoting and getting fans” and “it’s the public’s fault for not being good fans by supporting promoters and fighters”.
            You pretty well have everyone covered…

          • Jander78

            Die-hards do support their fighters. It’s the casuals that will create the large number of buys for this type of fight. Your argument is that promoters and fighters should put on a circus to allure casuals. Die-hard fans know who to root for, they’re the ~150,000 that paid for Ward/Kov 2 and GGG/Jacobs. They’re the ones that will watch Cotto/Kamegai, and they’ll jump on the GGG/Canelo train as well, because we know a good fight from a farce.

          • Larry Connor

            No putting on a circus is not my argument. I will say this again, take the good from Floyd’s marketing skill and leave the bad. It can’t hurt you. No where in that statement did I say, ” put on a circus”. Look I’m not dillusional, I know what site I’m on and I’m fighting a brick wall. It still does not change the fact that Canelo/ggg caliber fight shouldn’t out perform a guy who’s been retired 2 years, 40 Fucking years old fighting a guy who’s never had a professional boxing match in his life!!!

            😂😂😂😂😂. It’s not that freakin hard when you clearly have the better product.

          • Stephen M

            So what is the “good”?

          • Jander78

            The “good” is that Floyd is willing to accept the villain role and play it up as much as possible. He gets as many people paying to watch him lose as they do to watch him win.

            That’s why it works for the bad guy(s) and not the good guys. When there’s not any drama to latch onto (ala WWE), your not going to draw a casual. It doesn’t pump casuals when they see two guys respectfully shaking hands or sharing a laugh while playing Rock-em Sock-em robots.

          • Stephen M

            Well, I understand that Floyd acting like an asshole is his thing and somehow has made him rich. I just don’t see how Larry thinks you can take this marketing ploy and apply it to GGG vs Canelo. That is not who they are. And if that is all Larry has got, he should just shut up. No offense meant to you of course.

          • Jander78

            None taken. The answer is, you can’t apply that to GGG or Canelo. Out of the blue, it would be an obvious ploy to the fans and fall flat on it’s face.

          • Jander78

            But it is that hard… Better product in no way will allure casuals, who would be the majority. With Mayweather, it’s the good and the bad that make up his marketing persona. Without one, the other is non-existant.

          • Larry Connor

            You have a great point as far as the ” good and the bad” persona. That does play a huge role most times, yet you have both Floyd and Conor playing the role of a heel. They are making it work. So if two bad guys can make it work, then why not two supppsedly good guys. There angles that can be used like nationalism.

      • Stephen M

        It is undeniable that Floyd and Donald have something that makes them popular. Can you put that in a bottle and spray it on another fighter or politician and make them as popular? I doubt it.

        • Larry Connor

          Just from your comment alone I can clearly see why with boxing having one of the best years in a long time, the ratings are still down. You guys are stuck in the past and feel you can’t learn anything beneficial from those whom you despise and make it work for the sport. It’s a shame. The sport may find a better place once some of you old, and stuck in your ways type people move on.

          • Stephen M

            Tell me what exactly what we should learn? How do you promote, let’s say, Andre Ward into a megastar like Floyd? What’s the secret that you have learned Larry?

          • Larry Connor

            I did not tell you I have learned some secret. I said there promoters and so called die hard fans could do a better job supporting their fighters. You guys love ggg, but won’t buy his fights. You all hate Floyd, but he continues to do numbers no matter how you die hard boxing fans feel about him. Basically that means your opinion is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things concerning boxing.

          • Stephen M

            You said that “we” can’t learn anything from those we ”despise”. You are the self proclaimed genius so tell me what we should learn.

          • Larry Connor

            You are set in your ways. It’s a waste of time. Continue to sit here in the comment section and bitch about how fake the may/Mac fight is and how much you don’t care about it. 😂😒😂😂

          • Stephen M

            You make like you know so much but you can’t answer simple questions .

          • D Johnson

            Ever notice how he keep changing his argument? First sign someone’s full of shit.

          • Koninbeor

            Like how he’s saying that we need to be supportive of fighters one second and then crapping on a boxing card because no one is going to watch it the next?

        • Larry Connor

          That comment wasn’t for you. Typing to fast. No you can’t put it in a bottle and spray it, but it’s the promoters job to get out and drum up interest regardless if an elite guy is promoting his own fight.

  • Stephen M

    Looking forward to the HBO card tomorrow. #Realfights.

    • Larry Connor

      Yea you and maybe 5 other people are looking forward to it. It could be the best boxing match in the world, but the world will never know about it. Zero promotion or support. Tweet about the fight, put it on IG, FB, etc. drum up some interest about the kind of fighters you guys like instead of just talking in the comment section.

      I’m currently going hard helping drum up support for the Rigo vs Loma fight. The pressure is starting to show, but BIG BOB has serious fear

      • Stephen M

        Yeah, you are so amazing Larry.

        • Larry Connor

          I do more than just talk. Rigo is willing to go up to 130 for the fight since Klima said it was a non negotiable situation. Now it’s, well let’s see if you price yourself out of the fight and Loma is now considering going up to 130 after his current fight. Stop it, make the fight.

          • Stephen M

            Do tell, what have you done besides talk?

          • Koninbeor

            Get with the program, Stephen. Clearly, he’s supporting his favorite fighters by dogging an awesome card that “maybe 5 other people” are looking forward to. If we would just listen to him and do every single thing he says then every single boxer in the world would make eleventy billion dollars every single fight. That’s right, eleventy billion.

            First, we need to… hold on. *surveys Larry’s posts for useful information on exactly what needs to be done to be the richest boxer ever* Okay, so there really isn’t anything specific there. I guess we’ll just throw racial slurs back and forth and pretend like we’re bullies on the playground.

          • Stephen M

            Yeah, I don’t know why I bother.

          • wrecksracer

            Loma’s going to start looking bad for calling out guys that Arum won’t let him fight. Rigo and Mikey Garcia. Loma’s two best fights. Arum isn’t going to make those fights. He’ll find some Australian for them to fight.

      • Jorge

        You’re helping drum up support? Damn man Rigo v Loma will sell 3 million ppvs now with your knowledge and know how. I’m sold.

        • Stephen M

          Larry is freakin amazing and he still has time to enlighten us. Really big of him

          • D Johnson

            I feel blessed🙏

        • Larry Connor

          Good!! It’s working already.

      • Left Hook2

        Bob has no fear. Loma has no fear. Loma has no NEED for Rigo, just as Frampton/LSC did not need him. Sad but true. More importantly, Loma has other possible big fights on the horizon. I don’t think he would be considered a duck to fight bigger fighters (Garcia), avenge a defeat (Salido), or unify titles. Let Rigo get a 130 belt from Jezreel and then maybe his name gets put on the table.

        • Larry Connor

          How could you not want to see two of the best amateurs ever get it on???? I mean really?? To elite guys and you would rather Loma fight someone else instead The guy is willing to jump all the way up to 130 and still you say no to the fight??? Wow!!!!

          • Left Hook2

            For the same reason I wasn’t keen on Brook jumping 2 weight classes for GGG. Maybe it turns into a good fight, but until Rigo proves himself at a higher division, I personally give more weight to beating current ‘bigger’ guys than beating a smaller guy moving up. If GGG beats Canelo, I will still give G more credit for beating Jacobs than Canelo. And that doesn’t mean that rigo isn’t as good or wouldn’t beat Berchelt/Salido/Corrales, it’s just that he has not proven himself (earned a title) at the weight class at which he wants to challenge the top dog.

          • Mauro Hermida

            With Rigo’s chin, one of those dudes would put him to sleep. At 130, don’t see him as much of anything. If Shinsuke Yamanaka moves up, I would give him a good shot to catch Rigo and ice him.

          • Larry Connor

            I can respect that.

          • ceylon mooney

            really id rather rigo spit in a cup for a day and make bantamweight. i think plenty a those top guys would take the fight.

          • Ewan Leaper

            Good points, mention of Arthur Abraham in the mailbag serves him up as a good example of what you’re talking about: a killer at middleweight, just another contender in the division above- Rigo has much to prove.

            There was a point where Abraham v Pavlik at middleweight was pretty much at the top of my wish list, it can all change very quickly in boxing and Rigondeaux’s inactivity and fairly poor standard of opposition in recent years haven’t helped him.

          • Stephen M

            I’d like to see that fight. Steve Kim is quoting Arum saying that Rigondeaux’ team haven’t contacted him…

          • Chris Stans

            It’s an interesting matchup but considering the age, size, and activity difference rigo would be the only one with anything to gain

      • wrecksracer

        The thing I like about tomorrow’s fights are that every fight looks good. I don’t know whether these guys would ever reach a large audience or not, but it looks like a solid show. I’m less interested in the star personalities of boxing, and more interested in well matched fights. What was the point of Canelo’s last bunch of fights? You already knew who was going to win. Part of boxing’s promotion problem is the quality of their events. And to be honest……$80 or more for a PPV that may be a dud? Canelo v Liam Smith? Chavez Jr? I usually see my PPVs at parties. Or I get a PPV for a party at my place. If it’s just me watching a fight alone, I’m probably not going to spend $80 on it. Back in the 90s with those crazy Don King cards? I used to buy those even if it was just me watching.

    • Werd

  • IanF69

    There is a lot of hype here in ROI over this ahem fight.. and big money being placed on McG to maul and caveman style Floyd and smother him………..just a quick question and I’m not a hardcore like some on here…so I don’t know…but if and I mean “IF” McG does KO him in 4 or so……does he have any Lineal Champ rights as the man who beat the man who beat the man shit?

    • Larry Connor

      Nope that would just mean anybody can be knocked out and Floyd holds no belts.

      • IanF69

        Thanks…wasn’t sure where that could go.

        • Stephen M

          He’d be a legend. They would start wondering if he should go on the P4P lists.

  • Spider Rico
    • Stephen M

      That’s funny!

  • Floridastorm

    IMO, Berchelt is one of the best pure boxer/punchers in the game today. It’s really a pleasure to watch him work in the ring. Unless Miura brings his best performance, he is going to get stopped. Considering that Miura got KO’d by Vargas and Berchelt put Vargas’s lights out, I can’t see Miura winning this fight against the ability of Berchelt. However, it will be a pleasure to watch two top notch fighters going against each other for as long as it lasts.

    • Mauro Hermida

      The version of Vargas that Berchelt got was already faded to some extent. He looked completely done to me. No snap on his punches, no energy. He needed to take a break after tough ass fights with Salido and Miura. Miura is too hittable for my taste and he isn’t in his prime anymore, so you have to favor the younger fresher fighter here. But no question in my mind that Miura cant surprise everyone and take Berchelt out. He punches hard enough to do so.

    • DRE

      I got to go with Berchelt because he’s the younger fresher fighter and he also seems to have a real ship load of stamina. Miura certainly has a lot more wear and tear on him. However I wont completely count him out because of his huge heart and equally huge left hand. He’s like a Japanese Rocky Balboa in that sense. And like all true fight fans I’ll be watching the excellent card HBO this Saturday while ignoring this May-Mac thing.

      • Autosmell

        shut Up!

  • Chris Stans

    Man, been a while since the entire comment section was a war

    • D Johnson

      Same reason as to why Mayweather is so popular. Peeps love negativity!!

    • Stephen M

      Larry gets me going sometimes…

      • Chris Stans

        I just don’t read is multi paragraph comments, guaranteed insanity

        • Stephen M

          You are a very reasonable guy. I just can’t seem to resist, that’s why I block guys like Ola. If I read them I’m off ( on the road to nowhere ).

          • Chris Stans

            I’ve just gotten into too many arguments with Internet crazy people. One day I was like “do I really think I’ll change this guys mind?” so now I just laugh at ’em

        • Larry Connor

          No need for you to read it. It’s not meant for you. Your mind is land locked anyway.

    • Koninbeor

      Love is a battlefield…

  • Teddy Reynoso

    I hope Miura wins and stakes the title against his fellow Japanese and namesake Uchiyama next. Uchiyama had beaten Miura via TKO in a title defense a few years back when he still an undefeated WBC champion. But Miura has improved a lot since even winning a world belt of his own while Uchiyama seems to have plateaued or even declined with age, wear and tear. But then again as you said Uchiyama may still have a few good championship performance left in him and who knows, he may still have Miura’s number?

    • ceylon mooney

      well worth the rematch, but i see berchelt steadily breakin down miura dont u? still be a cool rematch both comin off losses.

  • Teddy Reynoso

    As Forrest Gump said life is like a box of chocolates, you don’t know what you’ve got until you open it. I view the MayMac so called fight that way but in a less hopeful manner. I probably will not watch it as it plays out but I will be most curious at what will be the result stop the ring. Just like you I am resigned to the fact that many people will pay to see that event or non event. Curiosity is a powerful force. And we know what it does to the cat.

  • Teddy Reynoso

    Rigo versus Loma at 130, why not? But it should be at a day of the fight official weigh in. Rigo fights at 122 but he could be a junior lightweight or even a lightweight at fight time. Loma fights at 130 but he comes to the fight weighing as much as a junior welterweight. Other than the weight, I see no other issue. Make that fight happen please. It will be a boxing purists delight.

    • ceylon mooney

      uh…rigos in ring weight has often been 122-128. hes basically a bantamweight who doesnt want to cut.

  • Autosmell

    Some of you is too much. U mad cuz Maymac gettin all the hype. It will sell over 30000011 ppvs. You say you aint gonna buy it but I bet when tix tix goes on sell half you dudes is gonna pull the finger.

    And the fight with whom you say will safe boxing (Canelo-ggg)?? Hahaha all I hear is cricklets.

  • Charlie U.

    I dislike Floyd as much or more than anyone but I watched the London press conference today and McGregor’s behavior is pretty fucking despicable.

    • Chris Stans

      I’ve been regarding them as pretty much the same person

  • ceylon mooney

    i never seen castellanos. couldn’t place the name. forgot all about gamboa. still aint got around to watchin that proof of where his career aint goin. was disappointed that corrales was fightin random no name opponent. glad to know otherwise.

    ao that means this is a real deal tripleheader.

    now i gotta find someone with HBO.

    anyone catch the gamboa-castellanos fight?

  • Black Oracle

    Why are you viewing Connor vs Floyd as a “fake fight”? Do you mean it’s scripted like when Floyd fought Big Show at Wrestlemania? You mean that kind of fake? Connors fans expect him to take Floyd’s head off. So this fight will be as real as any fight Floyd has had. You picked Smith over SullivanDougie? Dude you have the worst eye test of all time.