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THE WEEKEND’S FIGHTS

Dear Mr. Fischer,

I sent a reply to your mailbag earlier in the week, but I also wanted to briefly ask you about your thoughts on Avtandil Khurtsidze’s fight this weekend against Tommy Langford. The Anvil is a favorite of mine (I’ve been bothered by the way the WBO has handled his rise), and I think he’s a tough test for any up and comer. How do you see this fight?

In the interest of being concise, in case you’d like to combine my questions about the fights for this Saturday, I’d also be very interested in your opinion of the test that Miguel Marriaga will offer Oscar Valdez (I think this is one of the best fights on offer this weekend and am upset that HBO didn’t pick it up). Valdez has great power for one of the lighter guys and always seems to put on a show.

Also, do you think Charles Hatley can take Jermell Charlo’s belt? If Jermell has kept pace with his brother’s gains in size, this seems like a ridiculously tall order given the speed and athleticism he already possessed.

Finally, is Andre Berto (after a year-long layoff and four losses in his last eight fights) a worthy test for Shawn Porter? If this is just to keep Showtime active and to get him more exposure, it seems like they should have scheduled it months ago. I recognize that it will be good for his brand (Berto remains very much a name in the sport), but I really don’t know if it’s good for his development (and I certainly don’t see it as a stiff test). Very Respectfully. – John

At this stage of Berto’s career I wouldn’t categorize him as a “worthy test” for Porter (who is far beyond developmental fights, by the way). However, Porter can’t afford to overlook Berto who has the edge in experience and punching power. This is not a tune-up fight for Porter and I hope the Ohioan isn’t thinking too much about a rematch with Keith Thurman or a shot at the Brook-Spence winner when he steps into the ring tomorrow night. Berto’s legs, reflexes and punch resistance have diminished in recent years, but he can still hurt anyone he nails clean.

Fortunately for Porter, he’s got reliable whiskers. If he’s focused, busy and attacks Berto’s midsection (as he told RingTV’s Andreas Hale he would), he should wear the always gutsy veteran down to a late TKO or a clear UD.

If this is just to keep Showtime active and to get him more exposure, it seems like they should have scheduled it months ago. I’m pretty sure the Porters (Shawn and his father/trainer Ken) agree with you. Berto isn’t going to be the only one shaking off ring rust tomorrow night. (Read Steve Kim’s excellent interview with Ken Porter that ran on UCNLive.com this week if you haven’t already done so.)

Do you think Charles Hatley can take Jermell Charlo’s belt? No, I don’t.

If Jermell has kept pace with his brother’s gains in size, this seems like a ridiculously tall order given the speed and athleticism he already possessed. I don’t think Jermell’s edge in this fight has anything to do with size. Charlo should keep his WBC 154-pound title because he’s the better boxer with the more polished technique and the superior experience. I’m not trying to s__t on Hatley, and I’m happy the Dallas native is getting a shot at a major belt (after hounding Canelo and the Charlos all last year), but his technique is too wild and his chin is too suspect for me to give him much of a shot at pulling the upset. He is dangerous, though. He’s got speed, power and guts, and he’s a switch hitter, so he could clip Charlo early, but given his ring rust (he didn’t fight at all in 2016) and his penchant for swinging wildly when he’s got his opponent hurt (or thinks he does), my guess is that he’s the one who will get zapped in the first third of the fight. It should be fun while it lasts, though.

I’d also be very interested in your opinion of the test that Miguel Marriaga will offer Oscar Valdez (I think this is one of the best fights on offer this weekend and am upset that HBO didn’t pick it up). I think Marriaga represents the biggest step up in competition, thus far, for the young WBO featherweight beltholder. It’s a legit test and the Colombian banger is a worthy challenger. Marriaga, who had a strong amateur background, possesses good speed and power, as well as a solid chin and technique. I agree that Valdez-Marriaga is one of the best matchups scheduled this weekend.

Valdez has great power for one of the lighter guys and always seems to put on a show. I think he’s got good power for a featherweight. He’s not Naseem Hamed. He’s doesn’t possess the “one-hitter-quitter.” Valdez has to break his opponents down before stopping them, and I believe he should take the same approach against Marriaga, but he should refrain from loading up with every punch as he did with his last opponent (Hiroshige Osawa). I think his key to victory is to beat Marriaga to the jab, work his way inside, punch in combination and work the body. The Colombian has a habit of covering up behind his gloves when he’s under fire and that leaves his lower ribs and liver area susceptible to a body attack.

I also wanted to briefly ask you about your thoughts on Avtandil Khurtsidze’s fight this weekend against Tommy Langford. In a nutshell, I think Langford will be in a world of s__t once Khurtsidze gets warmed up and into his brutal rhythm.

The Anvil is a favorite of mine (I’ve been bothered by the way the WBO has handled his rise), and I think he’s a tough test for any up and comer. Khurtzy is a f__kin’ beast. I think he’s a test for top-10 middleweights, never mind up-and-comers. The squat 37-year-old veteran upholds the rare tradition of middleweight badasses who stand shorter than 5-foot-6: he’s a tough-as-nails scrapper with a relentless style/mindset and underrated inside craft to go with it. He’s cut from the same cloth as early ‘80s middleweight contender James Green (are you boys and girls familiar with “Hard Rock”?) and hall of famers Carmen Basilio and Lou Brouillard. (I know most of you know who Basilio is, but look up Brouillard if you have some time, he was a Quebec-born 1930s badass who notched 109 wins, including Mickey Walker and Jimmy McLarnin.)

How do you see this fight? No disrespect to Langford, who is an honest, solid pro, but he’s not on Khurtzy’s level. Langford is a British-level middleweight who should be fighting the domestic likes of Jack Arnfield and Tom Doran. Khurtsidze is a world-level middleweight who should be fighting Billy Joe Saunders or a rematch with Hassan Ndam. Langford’s only edge against The Anvil is his activity, but I don’t think he’s got the power, skill or physical strength to keep the Brooklyn-based Georgia native off of him. I favor Khurtzy by late stoppage or clear-cut UD.

 

BIG-FIGHT LETDOWNS/’THE MAYWEATHER EFFECT’

Hey Doug,

Hope you get a chance to read this because I really, really want to get your opinion on this.

Why do all big fights in the past decade up to now end up being such a let down? (Mayweather-Pacquiao, Frampton-Quigg, Klitschko-Haye, Canelo-Cotto, Ward-Kovalev, Thurman-Garcia to name a few.) It seems to be a recurring thing. Gone are the days that when you say big fight it really means the BIG FIGHT. (Leonard-Hearns, Hearns-Haglar, Pacquiao-Morales, Barrera-Morales, etc.) For me I think one of the main reasons for this is due to the growing trend of boxer’s safety first mentality. Another is the misguided perception that staying undefeated but having just an OK resume means you are more bankable compared to taking big risks but suffering a few defeats along the way. I think Mayweather is partially if not fully responsible for this growing trend because let’s face it, he is the blueprint for success in boxing today and I can argue that if you are a boxer today why not learn from the best, right? Let’s call it the Mayweather Effect. Keep up the good work. – Jayson

Thanks Jayson. We can’t blame it all on Mayweather. After all, he learned from Roy Jones Jr., who was a major control freak (enabled by HBO and much of the U.S. boxing media) and was very careful during the prime years of his career. In fact, I used to call Floyd “Roy Jones III” when he began taking the easiest path presented to him (once again by HBO) shortly after his close call with Jose Luis Castillo.

The major factors, in my view, that make most of the mega-fights of this era duds are: inactivity, being overpaid and a having more business sense than fighter pride.

The superstars of the 1980s who usually delivered when matched against each other – Leonard, Hearns, Duran and Hagler – fought more often per year than today’s elite boxers and had EARNED their status atop the sport as well as their healthy pay days, so they took extra pride in defending their considerable legacies when they battled each other. In other words, they had worked too damn hard and had battled past too many badasses to “half-ass” it or “mail it in” once they stepped into the ring for the mega-fights of their careers. Plus, the sport was more popular/mainstream back then (Gee, I wonder why?), so there was more pressure to give 100% effort in that ring.

I think Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez brought that kind of effort and intensity to the ring for their classic fourth encounter, and that took place in December 2012, so you can’t say that ALL big fights/PPV events are let downs. That main event delivered. But you can also say that Pac and JMM merely carried the kind of common hunger we see in lighter-weight fighters from third-world countries up to one of sport’s glamor divisions (welterweight). Who was the last elite/PPV-level American fighter in a glamor division to put it down on a regular basis like those two?

Maybe it was Evander Holyfield during the ‘90s. Despite the money and fame The Real Deal had, he always dug deep. You can’t say that his big fights were boring. But Holyfield had a big-ass chip on his shoulder. He wasn’t given anything and he didn’t like taking the easy road.

Oscar De La Hoya wasn’t afraid to challenge himself, either. He did have his share of big-fight duds (the Trinidad blockbuster being “Exhibit A”), but he also engaged in some memorable welterweight and junior middleweight PPV events (vs. Ike Quartey, Shane Mosley and Fernando Vargas).

I think De La Hoya and Mosley are last elite U.S. boxers to have the kind of activity that the Four Kings had. The Southern Californians sometime fought four and five times a year in the late ‘90s – so it’s no surprise that when they first faced each other as pros in the summer of 2000, they put on a hell of a show for intense 12 rounds. I think if Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia had been as active (against solid opposition) as Oscar and Shane had been going into their first PPV showdown, the PBC standouts could have put on a fight that was equally entertaining. (Same could be said for Thurman and Porter.) You can’t be sharp, busy and confident when you only fight once a year. But then again, when you get paid high six-figure purses to beat up on the likes of Rod Salka and $2 million to face a fellow contender, where’s the motivation to fight often or to seriously challenge yourself on a regular basis?

 

GGG VS. SAUNDERS

What’s up, Doug. Wishing you and your family all the best.

First off, I’ll state that Gennady Golovkin is my favorite current fighter. I also think that Tom Loeffler genuinely seems like a good guy. That being said, the powers that be who are guiding GGG’s career are seriously doing the man a disservice. Not taking the Billy Joe Saunders fight is really bad management. The man could be getting needed rounds, a huge paycheck, and become the undisputed middleweight champion and they turn down the fight. I don’t believe for a second that GGG is injured. Sore maybe, but who the hell isn’t sore after a fight. Golden Boy is playing GGG for a fool. Oscar says that if GGG fights Saunders, he’ll probably lose the Canelo fight. Bulls__t. If Canelo p__sies out again, he’ll never live that one down.

Anyway, that’s my 2 cents for all it’s worth. Thanks for the mailbag, it’s sincerely appreciated. Your show with Steve Kim is outstanding. Keep up the good fight. – Jeff from Tampa

I’ll try, Jeff. Thanks for the well wishes and the kind words. Kim and I will be shooting a third episode of Between The Ropes next week.

All I can say about the Golovkin-Saunders situation is that Tom Loeffler is being very quiet and when the K2 Promotions boss drops out of sight goes “radio silent” it usually means he’s in serious negotiations. I know that he’s had somewhat casual on-going discussions with Golden Boy Promotions president Eric Gomez since last year, but my hunch is that a real offer has been made from the GBP/Canelo side and that it’s fair and realistic enough for Team GGG to bypass the summer opportunity to unify all four major sanctioning organization belts against Saunders.

This decision seems to have irked a lot of hardcore fans (many of whom had loudly demanded the GGG-Canelo showdown and ripped the Mexican fighter for putting it off). I guess, like you, they suspect that Canelo won’t face GGG if he handles Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. in a few weeks. But you guys are living too much in the future. I say let Golovkin rest up if that’s what he wants to do and enjoy Canelo-Chavez Jr. If Canelo kicks ass, let’s all beat the drums for the Golovkin showdown. And if Canelo doesn’t want to fight GGG next, let’s all dump on him and boycott him and whatever else gets Twitter-heads off. If Canelo struggles badly against Chavez Jr., let’s move on and beat the drums for Golovkin-Jacobs II. If Junior kicks Canelo’s ass, let’s beat the drums for GGG-Chavez Jr. (Or, hell, let’s beat the drums for Chavez Jr.-Gilberto Ramirez and GGG vs. BJS. Whatever! Let’s stop obsessing about Canelo vs. GGG if Canelo isn’t good enough to clearly beat Chavez Jr. or if he clearly isn’t willing to challenge Golovkin.)

That being said, the powers that be who are guiding GGG’s career are seriously doing the man a disservice. Dude, what they’ve done with Golovkin’s career is nothing short of a freakin’ miracle. There’s never been anything like the GGG phenomenon in the U.S. He’s not American, not Latino, doesn’t have the tightest grip on English, didn’t make his U.S. debut until late 2012 (when he was already 30), but he’s become one of the biggest attractions in the sport (and deemed worthy enough by corporate America to be sponsored by Jordan Brand and Apple Watch).

Not taking the Billy Joe Saunders fight is really bad management. Only if they don’t get the Canelo showdown, and you have no idea if they will or not.

The man could be getting needed rounds, a huge paycheck, and become the undisputed middleweight champion and they turn down the fight. Bro, he fought 12 rounds in his last fight, he was supposed to make a huge pay day in Kazakhstan against BJS but it wouldn’t have been as much as he’ll make vs. Canelo, and the WBO belt will still be around for him to nab after partaking in the biggest boxing event of 2017.

 

WHO CAN BE THE NEW ‘SUGAR’

Hey Doug,

I hope to catch you and your family good with this one.

Just came across the RingTV Instagram post of your cover back in ‘99 and suddenly I wondered: Who could be the Sugar of the post-Mayweather generation?

Of course, I mean an American fighter who can mix pure boxing, educated skills and a puncher’s aggression with effortless versatility, all with a style as sweet as sugar.

Who could he be? Who?

Happy Easter. – Gio, Milano

Well, Gio, if you didn’t stipulate that the new Sugar be an American boxer the answer to your question would be easy: Vasyl Lomachenko.

I don’t think there is an American boxer currently fighting who has the perfect “Sugar” blend of natural talent, athleticism, boxing ability and warrior spirit. Terence Crawford is a surly, stalking switch-hitting technician in a Marvelous Marvin Hagler mold. Andre Ward reminds me more of Bernard Hopkins (the post-40 version) than any of the Sugars.

Keith Thurman and Daniel Jacobs are smart, talented and charismatic in their own ways, but there’s something missing from their fighter identities that keeps me from comparing them to a prime Shane Mosley or Ray Leonard (I wouldn’t dream of comparing any modern fighter with SRR). Maybe they don’t take enough risks in big fights.

Maybe if Errol Spence Jr. shines against Kell Brook, he can go on to be viewed the way the Sugars once were. We’ll see.

I think Jermall Charlo has the talent and spirit and Demetirus Andrade has the skill and versatility to perhaps be “Sugaresque,” but both standouts need to be busier and have the right dance partners to blossom.

Who knows? Maybe a current prospect, such as 23-year-old welterweight Rashidi Ellis – who received a stern gut check from John Karl Sosa last night, will become sweet enough to be called sugar as he develops over the next year or two. Let’s see how the early career of Olympic silver medalist Shakur Stevenson, who makes his pro debut on tomorrow night’s Top Rank PPV show, pans out.

 

LIGHT-HEAVY GOLDEN AGE

Hi Dougie,

I look forward to your mailbags every Monday and Friday. I respect both your boxing knowledge and your commitment to calling it like you see it.

Quick question…do you think we could be entering a light heavyweight “golden age”? Gvozdyk looks like the real deal, and we’ve already got Ward, Kovalev, Stevenson (altho he won’t fight the big fights), Beterbiev, Barrera, Joe Smith, Alvarez and Badou Jack among others. It seems to me that this might be the most exciting group of light heavies since the late ‘70s when Saad Muhammad, Yaqui Lopez, Mike Rossman, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Victor Galindez, Marvin Johnson and Dwight Qawi staged incredible battles in the ring. In my opinion light heavyweight is shaping up as the most exciting division in boxing. Take care, and thanks for your excellent work. – Karl

Thanks for the very kind words, Karl.

I don’t know if the top fighters of the current 175-pound division can match the unbelievable action that the light heavyweights of the late ‘70/early ‘80s produced, but I agree that the division is as deep as it’s been in a very long time.

How deep is it? Consider this. Dmitry Bivol, the excellent 10-0 holder of the WBA’s interim title, has yet to crack THE RING’s light heavyweight rankings. But make no mistake, he’s as much as a player as Beterbiev, Gvodsyk, Alvarez or Barrera. And so are other fringe contenders, such as Erik Skoglund, Seanie Monaghan, Dominic Boesell and Vyachaslev Shabransky.

The division has enough players (even without Stevenson’s participation) to start up a new Golden Age but it won’t happen until these guys fight each other. We’re off to a good start with the Ward-Kovalev rematch, the top two 175 pounders will battle it out once again with three major belts on the line plus THE RING championship.

 

QUICK MYTHICAL MATCHUP

Hi Doug,

Just re-watched Vargas vs Quartey and I was reminded of just how fun Vargas was to watch in his prime. So quick question, who wins between this version of Vargas vs Canelo of today? Best. – Alan N., NYC

Man, that would be a very entertaining 154-pound showdown, but I gotta go with Commando Nando by close decision. Canelo’s counter-punching prowess, defensive skills, body punching and ability to fight off the ropes would have made him a real threat and a difficult adversary for the 1996 U.S. Olympian but I think Vargas’ stiff, educated jab, lighter footwork, greater activity and smart aggression would enable him to edge the Mexican star on points.

 

DRE NEEDS PR?

So Mannix is keeping it real? That comment immediately brought to mind a poignant reality: Mayweather and Ward share one undeniable truth, neither gives a s__t what you, Mannix, Kim, Rafael, Lampley, et al, think about them and I applaud that. Not one of you can move an audience needle a single tick, and collectively you can’t move it two ticks.

And don’t get twisted, of course they know and reference they don’t get credit for their accomplishments, it seems they’re just stating fact, not a request for change.

You’ve all made a habit of tearing them down, but they both seem comfortable with doing things their way and where they are in their careers. And you guys are promoting Kazakhs, Ukrainians and Russians, aka, white guys, as the new boxing stars to American sports fans who could care less (170k PPV buys). Maybe you think that’ll bring back the 18-35 white male ‘demographic’ that the UFC has attracted, since we, the ‘other demographic’, are dumb undesirables, right?

As always, good luck. – Tony

Thanks. Didn’t you tell me you were going to stop emailing me?

Anyway, YES, Chris Mannix kept it real with this excellent Yahoo! Sports column on Ward (thanks for giving me a reason to post the link in this mailbag), and YES, I think Ward could use a good public/media relations agent.

I also believe that you are in need of a really good therapist.

(Now that I think about it, Ward could use a good therapist. Mannix, Kim, Rafael and Lampley probably need a good therapist because they’ve had to deal with hyper-sensitive control freaks like Ward. I’ve GOT a good therapist because I have to deal with racist nutcakes like you.)

 

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  • philoe bedoe

    Nothing wrong with Golovkin taking the fight with Canelo for the money, he’s not getting any younger and he’s a prize fighter.
    But with all the talk about just wanting to unify the belts and the Golovkin gang ( his hyper fans) saying he’s not about the money and his team are the most honest in boxing shows they’re no diffrent than anyone else………….

    • ceylon mooney

      id prefer he fight BJS cuz ive been sick of alvarez-golovkin form a while. juat sick of it. sick of any golden shower spokesperson sick of the whole lame drama show. meh.

      of course hes about the money they aint doin this for free, and so passin up a real offer would be plain dumb. but im so sick of the whole thing and would rather see him fight BJS then fight the next wave of mandatories.

      • Orca

        I’m getting sick of it too. I’d go with the BJS fight too. I see Golovkin getting sidelined again with the whole Canelo fight nonsense. He only fought 2 times last year after being messed about by Jacobs and it’s going to happen again. I’d take the BJS fight in June then fight again Sep-December as the undisputed middleweight champion.

        • Giuseppe

          absolutely. and then state his terms publically for a canelo fight. that would make canelo either accept those terms or be forced to fight at another weight.

          • Left Hook

            The worst thing to happen if he took the fight and beat BJS in June is that the canelo fight would be moved to May. Big deal…Fights in May sell more than in September. I am disappointed that they let DLH dictate his career path.

          • Mark Smith

            Canelo has fought all comers and only has one lost even though I thought he clearly lost to Austin trout and by the way who the hell has billy Joe fought that was any good?? And please don’t say Andy lee even though he was a credible fighter at one point in time

        • DRE

          So how did Jacobs mess Golovkin around? As I recall, just as soon as they finished their fights back in September everyone was razzing Jacobs to fight GGG within the next two or three months. So instead DJ fought him in March. It’s not like he made Golovkin wait all that long. It seems a lot of Golovkin’s fans were all pissed that GGG didn’t fight once more in 2016 and which he would have collected another belt and therefore maybe win that much coveted FOTY honour.

      • philoe bedoe

        Id also prefer him to fight Billie Joe first.
        Not only to see a unified champion, but to prove to a lot of people that not everyone are afraid of the boogeyman………

        • DRE

          Wasn’t Danny Jacobs supposedly scared of the “boogeyman.” And even after the fight was signed Jacobs was still this coward who was going to pack it in after the second round. We saw how that played out.

          • philoe bedoe

            Thank you, My point exactly.
            And something I’ve been saying for some time on here.
            Everybody was supposed to be scared of him, ignoring genuine reasons why the fight want made……..

          • Mark Smith

            I thought Jacobs fought scared after he got knocked down and thought he clearly lost a very boring safe uneventful fight and I wanted Jacobs to win

          • philoe bedoe

            I don’t agree with that.
            Jacobs landed the more power punches in the fight………..

          • Rick

            Catfucker!

    • Giuseppe

      Q: has tom loeffler done a good job for GGG? i can’t decide.maybe another promoter would have gotten GGG all the belts or bigger fights by now. Now that GGG has become a 2 fight a year guy, he has become much more like his contemporaries – whereas before he stood apart. not sure if i’m being fair. but i am being honest – i used to like his persona but its grating now because he is hanging around, transparently, for a fight that isnt all that meaningful in boxing terms. I say that because Canelo is a good but not great fighter who has never fought at GGGs weight. and GGG is putting his oft-stated ambitions to the side. as philoe bedoe says – nothing wrong with that at all — but you can;t expect the same fanbase to accept it. they like/liked GG because he seemed and said he was beyond all that. but – obviously and understandably – he isn’t.

      • philoe bedoe

        Well done, you’ve explained it a lot better then I did.
        I think Loeffler as done a very good job with Golovkin, with the whole team coming across as ” actions speak louder than words”.
        But they’ve got the same agenda as the rest………

      • Charlie U.

        Very well said.

      • IanF69

        welcome back G….u been missin a few weeks

        • Giuseppe

          Thanks! Went on holiday. Experienced two earthquakes. One whilst I watched Lomachenko sosa!

      • Mauro Hermida

        Even he will shake that booty for Canelo money. Robert must be getting that noose ready.

        • Mark Smith

          Ha ha

      • Mark Smith

        I think it is unfair but I still love your comment. To me Golovkin has fought all comers and that’s all we can ask for as he has completely cleaned out his division and I don’t give two shits about billy Joe and don’t want to see him fight nor Lara

        • Giuseppe

          That’s true. When the opponents have had the balls to fight him he has been there, ready to pounce.

    • Julio

      Money is one thing, certainly, but the Canelo fight will finally give him that elusive marquee name on his resume that has been lacking. Kill two birds with one stone. Saunders provides the last remaining piece of the puzzle, but as far as impact on GGG resume, it wouldn’t add much more than all the other opponents he has faced so far.

      • philoe bedoe

        I just think he should unify first before he goes for the marquee fight.
        That was supposed to be the reason he was chasing Canelo in the first place……….

        • Julio

          If GGG and his team decided to scrap the Saunders fight, I think that is a pretty strong indication that finally some serious negotiations and formal offers are being worked out at the moment for the Canelo fight. Loeffler will not make the same mistake he did sitting out GGG for six months again. You can rest assure that the Canelo fight will happen, or GGG will be massively compensated for his trouble.

        • Mark Smith

          Billy Joe is a bum I don’t want to see that at all but I would like to see him fight Charlo that would be a good fight imo

          • philoe bedoe

            I have no interest in Charlo fighting Golovkin until he’s proved himself at 160.
            I would not call an unbeaten belt holder a bum……….

  • Jody Hanna

    Good to see Tony back in the mailbag, spreading sunshine with his moronic, racist bile.

    • Charlie U.

      Tony = Fisticuffs?

      • Rick

        Sounds about right. What the dipshit doesn’t want to realize is while the guys he listed try to make exciting fights Ward is trying to suck the life from them.

    • Juan Manuel Valverde

      Ha ha

    • Like prime Wolverine, he’s the best there is at what he does…

      • Jody Hanna

        Being an arsehole.

  • Droeks Malan

    Man, had a good laugh at Doug’s response to that last e-mail!

    • Abraham E. Hernández

      How come you haven’t been in the mailbag column for so long? Your posts are usually really long but just as interesting.

      • Droeks Malan

        I did actually mail him about the Tete-Villanueva fight, guess there were just too many fights to allow for space, you can check my analysis here if you like: wwww.couchpotatofightguru.blogspot.com

  • Reggie Woodard

    “Tsukor” Vasyl Lomachenko…. Has a ring to it.

  • Jorge

    If you think about it. . . the main event of a big ppv hardly ever delivers. Bowe v Holyfield and Marquez v Pacquiao come to mind as fights of the year. There have been good ones but not a lot of great ones.

    • Orca

      Yeah, I brought this up a while back whilst watching some old fights. I just don’t see the same willingness to lay it all on the line in the big fights nowadays. Can we ever expect a Gatti Ward or Barrera Morales from the current elites in a big ppv show? I just don’t see it. Chocolatito seems willing to put his balls on the line for the W and I applaud him for that but I just don’t see it from the $million ‘stars’. Pac Marquez IV probably was the last big show that delivered.

      • Giuseppe

        because they barely ever fight and are more afraid of losing than anything.

  • Kudos

    Saunders is all wrong for GGG that’s why they don’t want it.

    • philoe bedoe

      May well be.
      Personally I’d pick a late stoppage for Golovkin after Billie Joe gives him all he can handle………..

      • Jody Hanna

        I think Saunders is overrated.

        • maxx

          well if one thinks he could compete with GGG, then I concur.Kudos

          • philoe bedoe

            Depends on your definition of competing?………….

          • maxx

            116-112 type of fight……..I very much doubt Saunders goes 12 rounds with GGG.Kudos

          • philoe bedoe

            I agree, judging him by his previous fights his stamina isn’t the best.
            But if he could get himself fit, he has the attributes to last the distance.
            He’s got good boxing skills, he’s elusive and he’s got a good chin, I’ve never seen him hurt or dropped………

          • maxx

            But then he has never been in the ring with a fighter that can cut the ring off like GGG, I say GGG gets him out of their within 7-8 rounds.Kudos pal

          • philoe bedoe

            No your right he hasn’t been in with a fighter who can cut the ring off like Golovkin.
            But also Golovkin hasn’t been in with an unbeaten elusive southpaw with Olympic pedigree, who hasn’t been seriously hurt during his career.
            He’s been in with two world class punchers in, Lee and Eubank and neither could hurt him………..

          • maxx

            GGG has encountered a lot of these elusive southpaws in the amateur ranks, he did pretty well gaining victories over the likes of Dirrell ( the Olympic semi-final), in the pro game GGG should do even better as he is the one who sets the tempo of the fight whilst the elusive boxer has to constantly be moving for 12 rounds and that too using the full perimeter of the ring, such is the brilliance of GGG when it comes to cutting off the ring, you have to go as far back as a prime Chavez to see such brilliance and efficiency.Kudos pal

          • philoe bedoe

            There’s some good points there, but Billie Joe just doesn’t just keep backing away.
            He stands there and slips punches and uses angles.
            Jacobs showed a good elusive game plan works………..

          • maxx

            He does use angles but he tends to be mobile, he does not fight like a southpaw James Toney, he tends to utilise a lot of movement and against GGG he may run but he will not be able to hide…for too long.Kudos friend

          • philoe bedoe

            To be fair there’s not a lot of people who have ever been able to fight like Toney………

          • maxx

            Agreed.

          • Pietey Trenton

            Hey, could you give me the five best toney fights in your opinion? I have never sat down and studied him

          • maxx

            Iran Barkley, Vasily Jirrov, Evander Holyfield, Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum fights…Tim Littles.Kudos

          • Pietey Trenton

            Cheers mate

          • philoe bedoe

            Every time Golovkin has fought a world level boxer who’ve applied decent defensive skills Jacobs and Murray hex been taken the distance or he’s stopped them in the penultimate round.
            Billie Joe is a more natural at boxing defensively and harder to land cleanly……….

          • maxx

            Both Jacobs and Murray are a lot bigger than Saunders however you are right, Saunders is a more natural boxer than both yet is he good enough to slip and slide for 12 rounds against a killer like GGG, in my opinion NO but we shall have to wait and see.Kudos

          • philoe bedoe

            I look forward to seeing it. Kudos …………

          • maxx

            As do I.Kudos

        • philoe bedoe

          If your judging him by his last fight, and he continually stays at that level then he is overrated.
          But he has the style to give anyone an hard fight………..

          • DRE

            I haven’t seen much of Saunders other than his win over Andy Lee. Not much of a fight but BJ did hurt Lee with his right hook and probably should have gone for the KO instead of playing it safe. But overall everyone is going to say that Saunders is an overrated bum and if GGG knocks him out then those same fans are going to whine over GGG not getting enough credit for knocking out a guy they themselves dismissed as a bum.

          • philoe bedoe

            If Golovkin can ko Billie Joe then he gets my full respect……….

          • Jody Hanna

            Didn’t think a lot of him before that fight, even less afterwards.

          • philoe bedoe

            Say no more lol………..

    • Juan Manuel Valverde

      Wrong how? I’m really interested in your opinion since I also saw a couple of things that make me think he’s not as bad as certain members of the media want us to believe.

      • Kudos

        Was just fucking around. He’s actually got a better resume than Jacobs up until Jacobs fought GGG. He was an Olympic medalist and has good boxing skills. Seems to be undisciplined with his weight. He’s definitely not as bad as U.S media are making out. If he was American they wouldn’t say that.

        • Juan Manuel Valverde

          Hehe, I actually think he’s not as bad as some people think he is. He gets a bad rap because he’s kind of an asshole.. I still think GGG is ahead of him, but again, you have to fight the fights. Fights in our heads mean nothing. Just look at how Maidana did against Broner and Floyd, nobody expected that.

        • maxx

          Saunders lost to the Cuban fighter, he did not win any medal PERIOD!

          • Kudos

            Here we have a Gennatic

          • maxx

            “Gennatic” what on Earth does that mean???????? trust you , you goof to come up with such gobbledygook heheheheheeee.

          • Kudos

            Golovkin fanatic

          • maxx

            Nah, just give credit where credit is due unlike some folk who judge on skin pigmentation, need I say more Kudos.

          • Kudos

            Golovkin is white/Asian

          • maxx

            He is Central Asian, not Caucasian!!!

          • Stephen M

            Don’t get testy, he has alternate facts.

          • maxx

            After all Lee AKA Kudos is a big time Drumpf supporter lol.Kudos Stephen

          • Stephen M

            Did you hear that the very distinguished President Pussygrabber said that Canada was ”disgraceful” for defending it’s dairy farmers?

          • maxx

            Indeed I did, I guess he is going to send an “Armada” to punish you folks heheheheheeeeeeee.Kudos Stephen

          • Rick

            That is pretty odd seeing how he’s not even American.

          • maxx

            Well then Trump was deprived of his vote.Kudos

          • maxx

            Well then Trump was deprived of his vote.Kudos

          • Thank you.

    • maxx

      You have got to be kidding!!!!

      • Stephen M

        I think he is confused and has it backwards.

      • DRE

        I think this kudos guy is just being funny.

        • maxx

          Lee AKA Kudos has no sense of humor, I think he is being dead serious.

          • He’s being dead stupid.

          • maxx

            That he is.Kudos

          • Pietey Trenton

            Surely not!?

          • maxx

            With a airhead like Lee nothing would surprise me.

    • Artur Akavov is all wrong for BJS that’s why they don’t want that rematch.

  • Kudos

    Saunders is all wrong for GGG that’s why they don’t want it.

  • Charlie U.

    Tony = Fisti Cuffs??

  • Charlie U.

    It’s a shame that few boxing fans will get to see tomorrow’s very good card at Stub Hub. Top Rank is nuts making this a PPV. Like he does with Pacquiao, Arum is trying to squeeze every last cent out of the Latino/Hispanic market.

    • Giuseppe

      i think its on boxnation in the uk.

      • maxx

        Indeed it is.Kudos

    • It’s the only way he can keep his young guns busy and advance their careers while covering his ass financially. He could give it to a network for free can get way more eyeballs in the U.S. but then he’d take a financial hit and the old dude is trying to run a business.

  • Don Badowski

    DLH (never Alvarez himself) has been saying for months that Alvarez / Chavez Jr. may need a rematch, and maybe another one after that. Because, why? Because the fans demand it? DLH is stringing us along. Not buying it. If he can bank on the fans stupidity for buying this fight, why would he bother with any fight that’s an actual risk? Chavez Jr. has fought two very average opponents since quitting on Fonfara. But he’s the contender for the made up title of King of Mexican Boxing? You really think he’s the one to knock out Alvarez? If you do, you are proving DLH right. Bet on the stupidity of the fans, you win.

    • Giuseppe

      it would be even better than maidana beating broner if Chavez Jr KOs Canelo.

      • bradman

        I’m definitely rooting for Jr. in this one.

      • ceylon mooney

        i MUCH prefer alvarez. cant stand broner.

        • Giuseppe

          There is something tragic and genuinely pitiful about broner tho, for me. Easy to see through his bluster. Everything about canelo rubs me up the wrong way. Except his devastating good looks and great talent

      • Julio

        Clearly. Maidana exposed Broner as the underachiever he really is, whereas Canelo has had the makings of being a world beater for a good while now.

        • Giuseppe

          For sure. And for whatever reason I have grown to dislike canelo and his aura more than anyone else in boxing.

          • Julio

            Can’t blame you for it.

      • Hater!

        • Giuseppe

          Haha. Lover!

      • Pietey Trenton

        Imagine chavez jnr giving cinnamon a revenge hump! Ahhhh fuck that fight makes me happy, I really miss maidana

    • Neither Canelo nor Chavez want a rematch. Both have been adamant about this and both believe there won’t be any need for it. DLH learned from Arum on how to influence fans and media with a few comments. Folks just need to keep that in mind.

      • Don Badowski

        Yes Doug, I know enough not to believe in everything, or anything, that DLH has to say. I’ve learned. On the other hand, it does seem that if this King of Mexican Boxing farce pulls in a lot of money, and it is even a little close, DLH would rather rematch them than move onto Golovkin. I mean, a few months ago how many were even considering this fight? In no way does Chavez Jr. deserve this after his last 3 fights. And DLH tells us that this was the fight the fans wanted. I’d never heard a thing.

  • Tony Nightstick

    Wonderful that the neglected Lou Brouillard got a coveted Doug Fischer mention. The Hall of Famer had about 135 bouts. He was only stopped once, by Tiger Jack Fox.

    As for Khurtsidze, a favorite of mine, he’ll stop Langford no later than the eighth.

    • You’re not going to get a Lou Brouillard mention from those “other” boxing writers…. we keeps it real in the mailbag… LOL

      • Tony Nightstick

        Ha! Well, you might over at Boxing.com, but that’s about it.

        I like the use of “other,” when you of course mean “lesser.”

  • Juan Manuel Valverde

    I really think that HBO is guilty for enabling Roy Jones Jr and Floyd Mayweather. Those guys just took advantage of it.

    Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather are always complaining about nobody giving them a fair shake, so to answer Tony’s dumb racist email, no, they do want the media to suck their balls and that’s why they’re always pissed, they’re the only ones not doing it.

  • Giuseppe

    Sugar Malik Scott

    • Graeme Durrant

      (Eat less) Sugar Tyson Fury.

      • Giuseppe

        Sugar Leonard Ellerby

        • Rick

          Sugar Smellerby

      • Hell yeah

    • Spider Rico

      Sugar Kell Brook

    • Turner Wednesday

      Sugar Nikolai Valuev

    • IanF69

      Sugar Shawn “The Kitchen” Porter.

    • Werd.

  • Kevin Perry

    I think the boxing media in general has a bias towards boxers. ironically moat of the boxers tend to be black thus they moat of the backlash. Additionally the sport of boxing is made up mostly of minorities yet the fan demographic is somewhat different. There just isn’t quite as many black fans as there are whites and hispanics. Since you have a very small percentage of white American fighters that are elite, generally white fans in America seem to latch onto the European and eastern bloc fighters that come here and now call America home. From my observation this is what pisses a lot of black boxing fans off. It appears that many of the black fighters get very little support from the American fans, black fans included because so very little go to fights. Any time there is some mediocre white fighters he is able to draw a decent fan base because guess what? Whites make a much more substantial part of the population. I know Floyd is a jerk and wants to be hated to sell tickets, but I am not sure why Ward gets so much criticism all the time. I think the media has acted towards him so negatively the last few years that he has become so defensive during interviews. The fighter had gaps of inactivity due to injuries, and legal issues, but instead of giving him a pass, the media seems to put all the blame on him. Some scrutiny is warrented, but not most of it in my opinion. Not I am not saying anyone deserves respect, it should be earned, but I think the treatment by the media and many fans is extremely unfair. It’s understandable for fans to feel a certain way because they are somewhat ignorant to the business, but I think the media has become the issue. The fans beleive everything they say as fact, and many of them have an agenda. They know more about the business, but many today act just as childish as the fans of the sport. Bottom line is this….Most fans and media members have never laced up gloves or been in a real fight. Some of things I hear said about fighters in articles or message boards is ridiculous. I think fighters feel that they command mores respect that’s all. I think we owe it to them regardless or race, creed nationality etc. By the way I am happy that fighters from other countries can come over here and make a better life for themselves, I just think Americans need to support their own fighters as well.

    • Juan Manuel Valverde

      The reason he gets a lot of shit from the media is because he usually treats the media like shit. Thats why. He sounds and looks like a nice guy on interviews and tv but behind the scenes, he usually holds grudges and doesn’t like criticism. Do you remember the first press conference when Kovalev-Ward was originally going to be announced that he didn’t even show up? Thats disrespectful to everyone. Those things cost money and its not very professional to leave everybody waiting without saying anything. So yes, he gets shit becuase he gives shit.

    • Stephen M

      I’m not going to say that there is never a racial bias but I think you are overstating it. In any fight I’ll root for for the local (Montreal) guy, be he white, black or orange, except if he is a dick. I’ll be more forgiving of a dick who delivers in the ring then one who doesn’t. In all cases, I may have a small unconscious bias to fighters I identify with more.

      • Juan Manuel Valverde

        I’m from Tijuana, even though Erik Morales delivered in the ring, he was known as an asshole in the city (he still is). He isn’t very approachable and the media resents it. So, much like Ward, you would read a lot of bad stuff about him. Even today Jackie Nava and Margarito get more props from the sports community than Morales ever got even though he is a legitimate Hall of Fame fighter and they will never be. If you’re an asshole even people in your own hometown will hate you.

        • Stephen M

          I mostly agree but I’d probably root for the white asshole over the black asshole. Then again, that could change on a case by case basis…

          • Jody Hanna

            Racist

          • Stephen M

            Maybe. I’d root for Bute against Pascal, for Pascal against Stevenson and for Stevenson, or anybody really, against Dave Hilton.

        • Kudos

          You the guy who calls into the next round.

          • Juan Manuel Valverde

            Yes

        • Kudos

          What was Barrera like as a personality? I know he’s well educated an passed the bar.

          • Juan Manuel Valverde

            I met him once and he was cool. Also Marquez was pretty cool.

          • maxx

            Barrera is indeed an gentleman, I met him at the Hatton/Maussa weighin, a class act indeed.Kudos

        • maxx

          Obviously Juan you will know better than I on Eriks antics outside the ring, yet his performances in the ring will be etched in the memories of fans throughout the globe.Kudos

          • DRE

            I never met Morales or Barrera. But Barrera struck me more of a guy whom I would approach for an autograph while Morales never came across as friendly. Remember his 3rd clash with Barrera. Barrera off course won and when he tried approaching his rival, Morales whipped a water bottle right at him. I was thinking “You asshole!”

          • maxx

            How could one forget anything connected with that trilogy, Morales could be a sore loser, no question about it and what a fight that was.Kudos DRE

          • Juan Manuel Valverde

            Oh of course! The reason I brought it up is just to show that even the best of the best are not always liked outside the ring. Erik was and is one of my favorite fighters of all time, only behind the great JC Chavez. He was the greatest boxer to ever come out of Tijuana and maybe Baja California. Gilberto Roman was also very good. Some people dont realize this but Chavez was basically a tijuana fighter as he fought there all the time. He had at least a couple of fights a year in our city. He also has a teenage daughter there so he stays in the area most of the time up to this day. Erik on the other hand is not well liked because he’a quite and usually an asshole. His fights though, wow, one of the best warriors ever.

          • maxx

            Indeed Erik is and always will be one of my all time favorites, the man epitomised the term “bad-ass”, the way he went southpaw against Pacquiao in the final round says it all about the man, good to see Gilberto Roman getting a mention, he was one of Nachos initial prospects and a terrific fighter , in regards to Chavez, I was not aware of that, I presumed he fought mostly in Culiacan………I recall reading an interview of Erik where he beat a couple of thieves who were trying to steal his car CD player, I guess they messed with the wrong hombre.Kudos Juan

        • Stephen M

          I didn’t know that about Morales. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

        • FACTS.

    • Jorge

      Hmm I think your theory is just all wrong… I don’t think there are a lot of white American boxers nor white American boxing fans. So that demographics argument is faulty. If you go to actual fights and look around you will see a lot of latinos, blacks and whatever nationality the main event fighter is fighting. Hence if you go to a Ukrainian fighter’s fight you are going to see Ukrainians, it’s not a big puzzle to solve.

      • Charlie U.

        Hey, I’m a white American boxing fan! We exist.

    • DRE

      I could never figure out this hate towards Ward. Like the legal issues and injuries were all his fault. And I do notice that safety first American fighters get blasted more that Euro fighters who are boring to watch. Like Vladimir Klitschko for instance
      When Terrance Crawford outpointed the tricky Victor Postal he got slammed for not going for the KO. But more recently Jorge Linares got his ass kissed for beating Anthony Crolla in the same fashion.
      Come to think of it imagine the hate Canelo would be getting if he was an Afro American? He’s already hated so much as it is that many people here want the much maligned Chavez Junior to kick his ass.

      • Pietey Trenton

        Sorry bro but linares style beating crolla was vastly different to crawf v postol, fuck me that was a stinker, he did 12 rounds like the last 6 of thurman v Garcia, another let down

    • Rick

      I’m not going to root for a guy with a style that I really have no desire to watch, has no personality, and doesn’t entertain me just because we’re from the same huge country. On the other hand I will watch and support someone that puts on exciting fights regardless of their color or where they happen to be from. For me it really is that simple.

  • Kevin Perry

    I think the problem people have with GGG is everyone involved with him except GGG himself. His stupid fans who think he’s the best middleweight ever, things his trainer says and stuff his promoter says in interviews. They build the guy up to be this monster, and he is a great fighter, but his fans forget that he’s human. I’m sure he has bad days at the gym, he’s 34 years old and he isn’t invincible. So what if he takes a break before fighting Canelo. He needs rest. It’s funny though, I was thinking back to the year James Toney got fighter of the year. He fought that year Nunn (won my KO), Del Aquilla(KO), Merqui Sosa (SD), Reggie Johnon(Dec), Alberto Gonzales(KO),Mc Callum(Draw).He’s remembered for his activity and even though he didn’t win all those bouts convincingly he got credit for fighting six times against top opposition in on year. People remeber Toney as this great fighter but he wasn;t blowing everyone out.
    GGG has been staying active, so give the guy a break if he has one close fight. Geez.

    • DRE

      Like you said all these GGGoons just cant get enough of Triple G. Look how pissed off they are about their hero only fighting twice last year as apposed to three or four times. And remember it was Canelo’s fault. And Oscar’s. And Jacobs. And Ward’s. And Mayweather’s. Etc.

    • ChrisB77

      It’s a very good observation. I’ve got to be honest. I got caught up in the ggg hype and was ‘disappointed’ with his body of work last year. It’s ridiculous when you think about it, particularly with that Toney comparison from yester year.

      If I’m truly being honest, the hype I felt (and still feel) for ggg stems from my unrequited excitement for Valero. I thought the guy was a beast. Then he did what he did and it left a big gap. Then I read Doug’ gym notes from big bear in which ggg sparred canelo. It got me hooked on ggg and I’ve been impressed ever since. Jeez the guy even has Julian Jackson, he of serious
      all time pound for pound power, taking him up. And darnell boon, who I have immense respect for.

      The mythology of beasts like Valero and ggg is probably a hangover from my initial boxing obsession from Tyson in the late 80s. He, above all others, evaporated menace.

      Had too many ports away on holiday and have become all philosophical and introspective. Apologies. And thanks Doug for the mail bags

      One more thing, Toney was a great fighter in my books for what he did above middleweight. His fights at heavy weight, parrticularly with ATG Evander were special. Ggg is just too small to do that but, hell, Id love to see him try to emulate that body of work one day. Peace

      • Mark Smith

        I respect that but please don’t forget Golovkin has cleaned out his division and knocked out all but one fighter what more can he do other than go up or down but I want to see Charlo vs Golovkin and Canelo vs Golovkin but what I want to see most is badu jack vs Golovkin if he stays at 168 I do not want to see billy Joe Saunders fight any. What Golovkin has down to every ranked middleweight other Canelo is complete domination and his done it all since 2012. Utter domination

  • Abraham E. Hernández

    I have no problem with GGG taking some time off. The guy is 35, his body is not the same as it was 10 years ago. Look at Roger Federer skipping the whole clay season to rest and be in top form for the grass and hard court tournaments.

    • Julio

      Roger is planning to play the French Open. With his current form, I think he has a realistic shot at it.

      • Mauro Hermida

        I would just concentrate on grass if I were him. Even at 35, he is still number 1 or 2 in grass. Its has best chance to get another title before retirement. He has to be thinking of retirement. He should go down as the greatest.

        • philoe bedoe

          I think so too…….

        • Julio

          Sure grass is always Roger’s best bet, but his clay court game is wrongly underappreciated because of his losses to Nadal. Roger is clearly the second best clay courter in the last 10 plus years. Rafa is simply not as dominant on clay anymore, and with both Novak and Andy with their own set of problems, I think that Roger could take it all at the French if his body can hold on and any of the dark horses don’t catch fire. You say retirement, dude has been hearing the same chorus for years, and look at what he has done.

    • Rick

      Sometimes I take Friday off work so I can be well rested for the weekend. That’s about the same isn’t it?

      • Abraham E. Hernández

        If you have a set schedule, no.

  • Chris Stans

    Isn’t Kazakhstan in Asia?

    • ceylon mooney

      yes

    • Central Asia. Absolutely. Most of the people from Kazakhstan I’ve met have Asiatic features….

  • Spider Rico

    Gennady Gennadyevich Golovkin is too long and hard to pronounce to be promotable. What Tom Loeffler needs to do is change GGG’s nickname to “EL RUSO,” like how Evgeny Gradovich use to go by “El Ruso Mexicano,” then go on a Mexico tour and he’ll sell like hot cakes.

    • Jorge

      Except Gradovich couldn’t sell tickets.

      • Spider Rico

        Yeah but Gradovich wasn’t on 3G’s level.

  • Dee Money

    Uh Oh…Khurtsidze needs to drop a few ounces right now

  • maxx

    Excellent mailbag as always Doug……American 135lb prospect Ryan Martin seems like he has all the attributes to be a elite fighter.Kudos

  • Turner Wednesday

    Tony is right about one thing, he’s one of the dumb undesirables.

  • Ultimate sceptic

    I thought the last 3 or 4 rounds of the Frampton Quigg match were good, although it is understandable if a lot of people had switched off their TV sets by that time.

  • Kudos

    It’s there’s a element of boxing fans want it to be black guys only. Well get used to Russian/Ukrainian fighters because they aren’t going anywhere. And count yourself lucky they weren’t allowed to turn pro when it was the Soviet Union as boxing history would’ve been very different.

    • maxx

      Cuban and US boxers tended to get the better of USSR fighters back in the 70s and 80s.

      • Kudos

        You’re talking about the Amateurs. Pointless reply

        • maxx

          Guys like Foreman, Frazier…..Holyfield were walking through them like a knife through warm butter.Kudos “Kudos”

          • Kudos

            Stfu

          • maxx

            Rude and vulgar….somethings never change.

          • Chico2229

            Dumbest reply of the day? We have a clubhouse leader!

      • Kudos

        A guy like Kovalev wasn’t even on the Olympic team. The fact they were denied the opportunity to go pro robbed them of their chance to learn an grow.

        • maxx

          Because he got schooled by Korobov you prat, do your research you goon!!!!!

          • Kudos

            And what’s Korobov up to now?

          • maxx

            The 70s amateur game had no headguards, perhaps guys like Korobov would have got exposed by big punching fighters, maybe Kovalev would have done better in that era, who knows, but do not assume USSR fighters of the 70s would have necessarily beaten the likes of Ali, Frazier and Foreman in the pros, HOWEVER Cuban fighters may well have given these guys all they could handle an then some.

          • Kudos

            He has disputable losses to Beterbiev

          • maxx

            He lost PERIOD!!!!

    • You racist!

  • Kudos

    Maybe Ukrainian & Russians are being promoted as the new stars of boxing because they’re the new stars of boxing. Dumb fuck

  • Dee Money

    In regards to the current strength of the Lt Heavyweights, Anthony Yarde fights tomorrow. Now I fully recognize that I am always one to be awestruck by big power punchers, but this guy could be one to watch.

    • He’s a badass, and a good interview too. I met him in Dallas last September.

      • Dee Money

        Thats good to hear, he did his thing today. Really hoping to see him take that step up in class now.

  • Colin Mc Flurry.

    Big fight letdowns, will next week add to the list?
    Mayweather gets blamed for everything, I’m surprised he doesn’t get blamed for the rise of the third reich.
    It’s easy to look back with rose tinted glasses, but even the likes of the Legendary duo of Leonard and Hagler once they became champions, and started making big money their activity dropped off significantly.

    Leonard fought 3 times in 80, 3 times in 81, once in 82. once in 84. once in 87. once in 88. Twice in 89, 12 times in 10 years.

    Hagler – three times in 81. twice in 82. three times in 83. twice in 84. once each in 85,86,87. only in 81 & 83 did he fight more than twice a year.

    Hearns fought 4 times in 81. Three in 82. once in 83. Three times in 84. once in 85.

    Dougie might be underestimating Tommy Langford a little. – he’s a competent boxer, throw in 8 inch advantage in height, no formality – still looking forward to watching the Anvil.

    • philoe bedoe

      Good points, Floyd does get too much stick imo.
      And I’m also looking forward to seeing the Langford v Khurtsidze fight……….

    • philoe bedoe

      Good points, Floyd does get too much stick imo.
      And I’m also looking forward to seeing the Langford v Khurtsidze fight……….

    • Julio

      Agree on all accounts. Didn’t Hagler say once that “its tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5 am when you’ve been sleeping in silk pajamas”?

      • Colin Mc Flurry.

        You are correct, sir.
        Even the toughest of warriors lose the desire, once Money and fame come rolling in.

    • In terms of activity I was really thinking about the previous years that led to Leonard-Duran I and Leonard-Hearns I. Leonard had his retirements in the early-mid 80s and the others slowed down by the mid-80s, but still fought more than today’s PBC elite. I’m not underestimating Langford. I think he’s a good domestic fighter. He’s just not world-class, yet. He may never be.

    • Mark Smith

      Thank you homie Floyd and oscar has fought the best competition since my all time favorite fighter Lennox Lewis, Tito and Miguel Coto, Bernard Hopkins, manny, Barrera, morales?roy jones junior, kostya tsyzu, Canelo, Holyfield,

  • Bar Kokhba

    Hadn’t seen that Mannix article. He sums up my feelings about Ward: I used to watch his fights to see him win; now I find myself hoping he’ll lose.

    I re-read the Ring magazine interview with Ward from just a few years ago, and there was zero hint of arrogance or egotism, at a time when he was legitimately a hot item. Amazing how, as his career stalled, his ego surged. Confusing.

  • maxx

    Nick Durandt, South Africa’s leading boxing coach had died in a motorcycle accident RIP.

  • Teddy Reynoso

    Shakur “Sugar” Stevenson sounds super. But let us see how he does in about three years.

  • Rick

    I guess nobody’s excited to see Porter fight Berto. Me neither.

    • Dee Money

      Im always excited to see Porter fight, be agree Berto shouldnt be too much of a challenge

      • Rick

        Yeah I like Porter a lot, you know he won’t get in there and half-ass it. I have a feeling this one will get stopped early due to a cut or injury to Berto. I think he’s way too shopworn and fragile at this point.

    • Nothing against Porter, I want to see him succeed, and nothing against Berto, who I like and respect, but I’m not excited to watch Berto fight any more. And I think he needs to retire now or risk some permanent neurological damage.

  • Mark Smith

    Well how come the best fighter in the world to me Mr Crawford doesn’t get any press or recognition even though he has savagely beaten everyone up but all I hear about is Golovkin, Lomachenko, and Canelo????