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Victor Conte speaks on Daniel Jacobs’ fight weight

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18
Mar

Danny Jacobs is well within his rights on choosing not to step on a scale this morning for the IBF, which demands champs and challengers gain not an ounce over 10 pounds to the weight limit in their class.

The Brooklyn boxer has drawn scorn in some circles for going the same route as David Lemieux, who gave up a claim on an IBF minor middleweight crown two weeks ago, when he blew off the morning of weigh-in before fighting Curtis Stevens. Worked for Lemieux; he showed pop galore in dropping and stopping Stevens. Can Jacobs utilize a weight advantage in the same manner? His team hopes so.

That includes ex-BALCO ringleader Victor Conte, now working on the right side of the law as a nutrition and supplement consultant.

“I predict Danny will be between 178-180 when he steps into the ring. He was at 176 at 8 a.m. this morning. Don’t be surprised if Danny does very well this evening. He had a tremendous training camp on the west coast. He spent the last four weeks of his training camp at my SNAC training facility in San Carlos, California. He is in the best shape of his life. He will be huge tonight when he steps into the ring! Danny will be big, fast and powerful. We will soon see how this all plays out.”

Conte said he knew Friday night Jacobs would not be doing the morning of weight check, for the record.

Indeed. Smartly played, perhaps, on paper by Jacobs. He can win four other belts off Golovkin tonight, so missing one wouldn’t wreck his mood.

Now, should the sport be allowing one man to be a cruiserweight and his foe a super middleweight on fight night? I would say ideally no. Maybe time for all the sanctioning bodies to follow the IBF and institute the day of weight cap. Then again, a fighter could still gain a bunch of weight in the 12 hours between the morning and late night start of their bout.

In short, this is boxing, problems are easy to find, solutions less so.

  • Captain Save-a-Hoe

    Shady. Jacobs win by knockout!

  • polk14

    Victor Conte working on the right side of the law? HA!

  • Dee Money

    Jacobs said they were going to use their physical advantages. Its odd that one of those is significantly outweighing his opponent, seeing that weight is the one variable boxing tries to isolate (thus having weight classes).

    • polk14

      Victor Conte is one of the best at hiding PEDs,. He is right up there with Lance Armstrong’s dopeing Dr. I wouldn’t trust him in a shithouse if he was whering a muzzle.

      • Ten Count Toronto

        Didn’t Nonito Donaire split with Conte a few years ago – and looked about 10 years older overnight?

      • Treat

        He’s the reason so many fighters are moving to the San Francisco area to be with him. The cheats are always one step ahead of the testing agencies. Specially with one as experienced as Conte. Very suspect. I lost my respect for Jacobs, Ward, Khan and Berto and the others in that gym, being served/trained by Conte.

    • Ten Count Toronto

      A really ridiculous system which seems designed to come down squarely on the side of the cheater – but even there it backfires at times as sometimes it encourages fighters to attempt greater weight-travelling than they can safely pull off – Gerald McCllelan is classic example that it can backfire on the bigger man too.

    • Alfredo

      The guy made weight when he had to. Golovkin could have done what Jacobs did and he would have still looked the way he did maybe worse.

      • Dee Money

        I completely understand and accept that, not claiming he cheated or anything like that. Rather, that I would like to see all sanctioning bodies enforce mandatory rehydration limits

        • Alfredo

          It’s a difficult topic to address because it has so many legal, ethical, and business implications. For the longest time the UFC used to allow (or ignore the use of) questionable practices and substances. It wasn’t until the fighters started speaking up that the UFC started addressing the topic. With regards to boxing I think of Joey Gamache. It may be time for boxers to make, as you put it, rehydration limits part of their contracts.

          • Dee Money

            I think the Gamache case is the prime example of what I am trying to say.

          • Col Carter

            Boxing has to go back to same day weigh-ins if we are ever to get like-sized guys fighting each other again.

          • Dee Money

            You’ll never get that toothpaste back in the tube, sorry but same day weigh ins are gone. The best we can hope for is uniform rehydration limits across all sanctioning bodies.

          • Col Carter

            You’re probably right. A few more deaths and some thought will be given to it. Unfortunately, it’s going to take death and serious injury due to big guys fighting little guys for something to be done. Weight divisions are separated by 3 to 8 pounds until you get to the difference between LHW and CW. If the divisions are meaningful then men outweighing another by more than 3-8 pounds, depending on the division, should be prohibited. If they’re not meaningful then stay on course with today’s standards.

  • peter fr

    IBF is right this is a scam

  • Ten Count Toronto

    Speaking of which, I suspect there is some new and currently undetectable concoction going around the last 6 months, perhaps the sudden rebirth of long-slumping older tennis players (Federer, Nadal, V.Williams, Lucic plus a few fringe pro’s having unprecedented success in mid-30’s…) might in a couple of years turn out to be this decade’s version of Roger Clemens’ second career.

  • MGarcia77

    Jacobs Was SIGNIFICANTLY bigger than GGG Saturday night. With Jacobs refusing the weigh in, that raised suspicion, on top of working with Victor Conte (BALCO, of cream and clear fame), was/ is another red flag. I also heard that he didn’t do any VADA testing whereas GGG had been tested like 5x’s in the lead up to the fight. He also is not part of the CBP. Finding out info regarding testing has proven difficult strangely. I find that odd. I am probably gonna get some shit for this, but I find it shady how Jacobs has used his cancer battle (which god bless him that he beat it, I get it) as a sympathy angle to overlook some of the questionable things going on around him. Lemieux refused to weigh in the morning he almost killed Curtis Stevens and I read people complaining and tweeting (P Malignaggi) about how dangerous it is to the other fighter (which it is obviously) But Jacobs does the same thing and he looks like a damn cruiserweight in the ring and you don’t hear a peep, only fans on chat boards are bringing it up (no tweet from P. Malignaggi). Fans, commentators, etc were pulling for the story of Danny Jacobs but to me it looks like he pulled over everyone’s eyes, and he lost.

    • Treat

      Exactly!! Working with Conte is very suspect. He did look like a cruiserweight fighting a small middleweight.

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    • Alfredo

      Jacobs looked better than expected. And Golovkin’s limitations showed through. The weight isn’t a significant issue here but rather Jacobs’ superb conditioning.

      • Col Carter

        If weight wasn’t a significant issue then it would not have been included in Jacobs’ fight plan. It was huge, just like Jacobs. That’s why there are weight divisions…they are supposed to preclude cruiserweights from fighting super middleweights or middleweights from fighting junior welterweights.

        • Alfredo

          Absolutely! You are correct about fighters being strategic about rehydrating. And that is part of a fighters game plan. It could have backfired – he could have been slow or sluggish. My issue is with people trying to explain Golovkin’s unexpected poor performance solely based on Jacobs weight. Jacobs fought a really smart fight. He executed his game plan. I also have an issue with this new thing called “weight bullying”. It’s one thing to use banned substances or load your gloves, but I don’t think Jacobs intention was to eat his way to victory. I could be wrong and I have been in the past. But your point is well taken about weight classes and limits.

          • Col Carter

            Jacobs’ fight plan was a good one. Being somewhat bigger was just part of the plan though. The plan may have worked if he had been busier. GGG has had two less than stellar performances in a row but he clearly won both.

        • MGarcia77

          You also can’t discount Jacobs working Victor Conte, that dude is so shady and slimy, he glides when he walks. He should be nowhere near athletes. Plus he also consults or consulted with VADA, which is very shady as well.

          • Col Carter

            I’m not discounting that at all. If Jacobs is dirty I hope he gets caught.

        • MGarcia77

          You also can’t discount Jacobs working Victor Conte, that dude is so shady and slimy, he glides when he walks. He should be nowhere near athletes. Plus he also consults or consulted with VADA, which is very shady as well.

  • Silk

    Bottom line, If Jacobs came in at 170, he would still be on the Canvas. Same shit Peterson did with Garcia, ran 6 rds, then Decided to box and the Dude wants the Friggn title. Judges won’t give the Win to a fighter pulling that BS unless you Knock your opponent out, Period !!!!!

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