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Vasyl Lomachenko’s move to lightweight a matter of when, not if

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OXNARD, Calif. — Vasyl Lomachenko has a huge assignment on his hands Saturday.

He’ll defend his junior lightweight title against fellow two-time Olympic gold medalist Guillermo Rigondeaux, and if he wins, he’ll cement his status as one of the five best boxers in the world regardless of weight.

After that, Lomachenko has designs on solidifying that status further. He started his career at 126 pounds, but soon, he’ll be climbing another weight division.

“(How far in weight) depends on my body, depends on my muscles,” Lomachenko, 28, said. “I know 135 pounds, I’ll move up, it’s 100%, but I don’t know when. After this fight, maybe. After two fights, I don’t know, but I’ll move up.”

When the Ukrainian does move up, many attractive matchups await, but none more so than a meeting with Mikey Garcia.

Garcia has looked fantastic at 135 pounds since he ended a long hiatus from the ring. The little brother of Robert Garcia scored one of the year’s best knockouts against Dejan Zlaticanin in January to win the title.

Garcia’s bitter feud with Top Rank ended with him leaving the company, which could complicate any fight with Lomachenko. Top Rank president Todd duBoef even tore into Garcia earlier this year when the potential fight was mentioned.

But for Lomachenko it would be huge. He’s already won titles in two weight classes and now regularly headlines on HBO. And he acknowledged such a fight could usher in his entrance to pay-per-view.

“For me, it’s a very interesting fight,” Lomachenko said. “In boxing history, we need to make this fight.”

But for now, he’s focused on one man: Guillermo Rigondeaux, whom he meets in New York this weekend.

  • ceylon mooney

    got dam. fight berchelt first. rule 130. beat yup walters again.

    • chickenstock

      He is the best but let’s see him prove it.

      • ceylon mooney

        exactly.

        ive write off the salido rematch, since it seems salido has–i think hell come back to it. id LUV to see him go at a dude like corrales, tho. man 130 has a lotta talent. anyway, u you seem to know whats what–is that berchelt fight gonna happen? is that a no hoper? whats up with that one?

        • Giuseppe

          ha, i don’t know my arse from my elbow, mate (do they have that phrase in the states?) and disqus keeps signing me on automatically under various names!

          anyway…. i do not think Loma fights berchelt. unless they both fight at 135 as they are both big boys. at 135 i take Loma to beat linares, beltran etc. But i think Garcia and maybe even Easter are tough for him physically.

          Loma v Garcia – who you backing?

          • D. Gambino

            We do have that saying here! It would be a shame if Loma doesn’t fight Berchelt before moving up. That’s really the only fight left for Loma at 130.

            I feel Linares beats everyone at 135 with a few exceptions. The easiest fights for Loma would be Flanigan and Crolla.

            Garcia/Loma is about as 50/50 as it gets for me. I do feel Easter and Campbell would be really tough fights for Lomachenko due to their height and style. Loma can win these fights but these are all tough challenges for him especially if Loma’s power doesn’t carry up with him.

          • ceylon mooney

            i think easter would be easier than flanigan

          • ceylon mooney

            yeah man we say that in the states! its more popular to say ” dont know my ass from a hole in the ground”

            hmn…to bad. id rather see it sooner than later.

            man, i pick loma to win, i want loma to win, but i wouldnt be disappointed at all if garcia won.

        • D. Gambino

          I don’t want to see Loma/Salido rematch anymore. That ship has sailed for me as Salido would get the shit beat out of him in a rematch. It wouldn’t be “right” to see a future HOF in Salido get beat down like he would in a Loma rematch. I bet Loma would punish him for 12 rounds or until Salido’s corner throws the towel in.

          Besides – Salido has his hands full with Mickey Roman. If I were still in Vegas – best believe I would be betting on Roman to win.

    • D. Gambino

      I still feel Loma beats Berchelt but he has the skills to make the fight interesting. I like Berchelt and feel that once Loma moves up in weight – he will rule the division. Berchelt should fight the winner of Salido/Roman next.

      • Fist_ti_cuffs

        You think Loma rules 135, even if Mikey is there?

        • D. Gambino

          I do feel Loma CAN rule at 135 but those fights will be a lot more interesting. I believe Garcia is the toughest match up for Loma (provided Garcia is at 135 when Loma moves up) because he fights tall and doesn’t over commit on his punches.

          I do feel Loma beats everyone else at 135 BUT those fights will be closer.
          The only “easy” fight I see for Loma at 135 would be Flanagan and Crolla (no offense to the UK fans). I do think Campbell and Easter would be tough because of their height.

          • Julio

            Garcia will have trouble dealing with Loma’s footwork. You can’t counter what you can’t catch.

          • D. Gambino

            We have yet to see Garcia in with as slick a boxer as Lomachenko. I was hoping we would get a small taste had Garcia/Linares come together but it didn’t (yet).

            Garcia has excellent timing and Loma still has to get close to score points which means he can be hit. If that fight happens at 135 – I would have to give the slightest of edges to Garcia but it’s practically a 50/50 fight for me.

          • Julio

            Yes, he has excellent timing, but is not the same trying to time a straight up fighter than one that moves like Lomachenko.

          • D. Gambino

            I certainly can’t argue your points as they are valid. I’m just feel Garcia/Loma at 135 is as 50/50 as it gets.

          • ceylon mooney

            been wondering about that. my thing with a lot of loma what ifs is timing. we seen another guy with fast hands in the ring with loma, and it wasnt an advantage for him. dunno how good GRJrs timing is but thats one fast dude.

            so timing…mikey got it, rigo REALLY got it…i watch loma shift speeds/shifts gears mid combination. how do you time that? that goes for the rest of his movement, his feet too while he changes position. thats one reason it looks like the damn matrix, cuz the dude goes slow to fast to slow mid motion. so how the hell you time that?

            lomachenkos offense reminds me of whitakers defense.

            i think thats as a close a match as it gets but i cant say how their talents really match up. i just cant see an advantage to mikey other than power and size, and im not sure how much those offer this matchup.

          • ceylon mooney

            been wondering about that. my thing with a lot of loma what ifs is timing. we seen another guy with fast hands in the ring with loma, and it wasnt an advantage for him. dunno how good GRJrs timing is but thats one fast dude.

            so timing…mikey got it, rigo REALLY got it…i watch loma shift speeds/shifts gears mid combination. how do you time that? that goes for the rest of his movement, his feet too while he changes position. thats one reason it looks like the damn matrix, cuz the dude goes slow to fast to slow mid motion. so how the hell you time that?

          • Julio

            In the most probable scenario that Loma can get caught is when he overcommit to his offense. And that usually happens when he feels comfortably in control of the fight.

          • ceylon mooney

            and he may play it conservative enough to not offer an opportunity

          • Fist_ti_cuffs

            No way he ever beats a busy, accurate, hungry, stronger and larger Garcia. He will wear his lil ass out and I can’t wait to say I told you so. Mikey is p4p top 5, but somehow Lomo gets the nod. SMH!

          • D. Gambino

            Don’t mistake my post – I love me some Mikey Garcia but I’m a boxing fan first. Garcia would have trouble with the speed of Loma BUT I also feel that Garcia’s power and timing would be an equalizer. I feel Garcia/Loma at 135 is as 50/50 as it gets.

          • ceylon mooney

            garcia got some good timing. yeah. agree. as close as a match as it gets.

          • Fist_ti_cuffs

            Mikey is firmly in my top 5 and I hope they scrap one day, but you know Arum isn’t gonna allow that to ever happen. I think that Mikey would physically punish him for an easy victory. I guess that’ll always be one of those dreaded mythical match-ups that I despise so very much..

          • left hook

            I agree on Campbell and Easter, especially Campbell.

        • ceylon mooney

          yeah. i think hes a class above garcia. hard to say if 135 has tougher fights. easter jr hell walk right thru blindfolded. hell have his hands full with linares, but i think lomachenko wears him down good. garcia looks good in a compatitive fight. catches loma a good bit. garcia god great ring smarts. i just think lomachenko is too much.

          • Fist_ti_cuffs

            I just don’t see it with Lomo, but time will tell. I think Mikey is levels above him as a pro and I think he would physically punish him should the two ever meet, but it’ll never happen. BA will be very selective with Lomo throughout his career and will pick and choose guys that he has all of the advantages with like the fight with Rigo. I think Lomo should be able to beat an old guy coming up two divisions, but Rigo should make for a fun test. I’m literally gonna bet $1.00 on Rigo for the win just for shits and giggles.

      • ceylon mooney

        i think itsa good match–good chance loma wont totally overwhelm berchelt.

    • Baron Kazama

      corrales already refused to fight loma once, so he had to fight against sosa

      floyd won’t allow tank davis to fight loma because it will be the end of floyd’s cash cow. yeah, davis is in 135 these days but when he was @130, they were saying that it’s too early to fight loma

      so the only champion @130 who’s willing to fight with loma is actually berchelt. at least he was saying that he’s not scared to fight him.

      and that’s one of the reasons why loma moving up from 126 to 130 and soon to 135 – other champions refusing to fight against him. risk of losing is very big while money isn’t very big..

      hopefully 135 champs won’t be such pu$$ies as 126-130 champs

      • ceylon mooney

        oh yeah he preemptively ducked loma as soon as he got a belt. i think it was lomachenkos not enough of a name or some shit. hahahahaha! yeah, a lotta folks in baltimore have heard of tank davis. i get it. tank davis is a bigger name in baltimore. and his last fight sucked. dude pretended to be on acid, and his opponent took a dive. shit show.

        eh, man, i dunno about lightweight. aint heard those guy tellin vasyl to come on up and get us you know?

  • Teddy Reynoso

    Loma was actually a lightweight masquerading as a featherweight in his first few fights. Now he is a super lightweight fighting at super featherweight much like Erik Morales was at same stage which drew criticism from smaller fighters he had faced as Barrera and Pacquiao. But it also proved to be to Morales’s disadvantage as the weight reducing regimen eventually took their toll on him. So regardless of the outcome of his forthcoming fight vs Rigo, Loma ought to move up to 135 to somewhat ease the burden on his body. But I believe he would be at his optimum at 140.

    • ceylon mooney

      well, i wouldnt say full lightweight cuz of his in ring weight. he was in ring at 138 against gary riussell jr, and most lightweights are well over 140 in ring. rigo doesnt bother to cut weight the way everyone else does.

  • Teddy Reynoso

    Fact is, in the day of the fight weigh in, Loma was actually a super lightweight, even a welterweight, coming into the fight at 142 lbs. in his last few fights. Doubt it if Rigo could come to their fight as a full lightweight given his smaller stature.

    • ceylon mooney

      yeah i wonder if he put on weight for this fight. cuz rigos in ring weight is often like 126.

  • Andrii Matiash

    №3+№4=№1