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Best I Faced: Terry Downes

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Terry Downes died on October 6 at the age of 81. This “Best I Faced” was originally published in the November 2017 issue of THE RING Magazine.

 

Terry Downes didn’t have a long professional career but still managed to make a significant impact.

The London native, who fought from 1957 to 1964, was in the thick of the middleweight scene during the final years of Sugar Ray Robinson’s career. Downes’ greatest triumphs were his 10th-round knockout of Paul Pender in July 1961 to win the middleweight championship and a 10-round decision over a 41-year-old Robinson in September 1962.

In all, Downes fought seven times against five world titleholders, going 3-4 in those fights.

Downes grew up in London during World War II but his family moved to the United State when he was 16. He lived there for five years, during which time he spent three years in the U.S. Marines.

He had boxed in England before making the move but also fought as a serviceman. He estimated that he lost around four of 150 amateur fights.

“Out in the States, they were quite impressed by me,” he said recently.

Downes returned to England after his discharge from the Marines, in January 1957, and promptly turned pro. Only three fights into his career, he was matched with a then-unknown fighter named Dick Tiger.

Tiger, a modest 20-8 at the time but loaded with latent talent, was too much for the young Brit, stopping him in five rounds. The U.K.-based Nigerian would go on to win championships at middleweight and light heavyweight and be inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame.

In his solemn changing room after the fight, the charismatic Downes was asked who he’d like to fight next. “The bastard who made this match,” he quipped.

He bounced back with considerable success, winning the British title within 18 months and later the Commonwealth belt. He outpointed Joey Giardello, a future middleweight champion, in the fall of 1960 to earn a shot at reigning middleweight champion Pender.

The two met three times over the next 15 months, Pender retaining his belt on cuts in Boston, Downes stopping Pender in London in what he described as the proudest moment of his career, and Pender regaining his title on points in Boston.

Downes defeated Robinson in London but acknowledged: “I didn’t beat Sugar Ray, I beat his ghost.”

The Londoner made one more championship run at light heavyweight but was knocked out in 11 rounds by Willie Pastrano in November 1964 in Manchester, England. Downes (35-9, 28 knockouts) never fought again.

“He just caught me with a good punch and hurt me,” Downes said. “I’d been pushing him around and chasing him for 11 rounds. He was a few pounds heavier than me at the time and I’d exhausted myself, and then he hit me with a good shot. I went down, but I wasn’t knocked out. But they decided that was enough.”

Downes built a betting shop (legal betting outlet) empire after his retirement from boxing, owning an estimated 30 shops before selling them off to the William Hill chain. He also appeared in several films, most notably “The Fearless Vampire Killers.”

Downes, now 81, is the oldest surviving British world champion. He and wife Barbara have been married for close to 60 years.

He spoke to THE RING about the best he fought in 10 key categories.

BEST JAB

Sugar Ray Robinson: I suppose it could be Pender or Robinson; both were great boxers. The timing – they’re reading you while you’re standing in front of them, their movements drawing you into something. It’s just part of the fight game. I would say Robinson.

BEST DEFENSE

Paul Pender: I’ve never thought about it. Pender was awkward; he’d grab hold of you. He was a very awkward bloke. He was … long, skinny. Very classy, but an awkward fighter. They used to call him “The Boston Crab.” He used to grab hold of you whenever you got inside; he was renowned for it.

FASTEST HANDS

Robinson: He was such a great fighter. Great timing; timing’s everything. He was just quick. He could probably drop something and catch it before it hit the floor. He had fast hands, fast everything.

BEST FOOTWORK

Willie Pastrano: I would say Pastrano. Pastrano was quick, but more body movements than handspeed. He was a natural mover. He developed it in a boxing way and it paid off. He was a natural fast mover.

BEST CHIN

Phil Edwards: I gave Phil Edwards some good shots over the period of 25 rounds and he took ’em all. Both fights were toe-to-toe. Edwards was a good, tough fighter. Giardello had a good chin. Phil Edwards had a good chin, because I hit him and he didn’t go away.

SMARTEST

Robinson: How can you go against Sugar Ray Robinson and say someone was better than him? The man was amazing.

STRONGEST

Dick Tiger: Probably Dick Tiger. He was attacking all the time; it was hard to keep him off. You couldn’t push him back.

BEST PUNCHER

Salah Ben Fahrat:I can’t remember, it was that hard! (Laughs.) I fought a bloke at Leighton Baths, an African, he was just a sharp puncher. No one knew much about him and all of a sudden he hit me and I was on the floor. I was up and down two or three times. Every time he hit me, I went down. Gradually I fought my way back and stopped him in the fourth round.

BEST SKILL SET

Robinson: You can’t weigh up anything without putting Robinson top of the list. … That was the man. He was a great, great fighter and miles above everybody else in the time he fought. He was good at everything. You can’t take anything away from him.

BEST OVERALL

Robinson: Because he had the ability. He could do everything better than anybody else. It was a mixture of everything. That’s what makes a great fighter, and he had it all.

 

Questions and/or comments can be sent to Anson at [email protected] and you can follow him on Twitter @AnsonWainwright

 

 

  • Giuseppe

    IS there a better name in boxing than Dick Tiger? I need to check out Pedner, never heard of him, to my shame, probably.

    • Giuseppe

      Pender

    • Abraham E. Hernández

      I like the old school names like Kid Gavilan(there were tons of “Kids”, though), Philadelphia Jack O’ Brian, Barbados Joe Wallcot, The Nonpareil. Regardless, Dick Tiger is the champ.

      Nicknames “El Terrible” Morales is still my favorite. It carries some extra punch in spanish.

    • Colin Mc Flurry.

      Jumbo Cummings?
      Think of the alternative career choice😂

    • william ellis

      There is a good article on Pender. The link is below. I saw him win the title from Robinson (he may not have deserved the victory the first time the two fought). He was very good, but not exciting. His arrogance was sometimes grating; and he really didn’t like boxing. His victories over Robinson and Basilio don’t count for all that much – both were well past their primes when he fought them. Still, he beat Downes twice, and Downes was a very good fighter. http://a.espncdn.com/boxing/a/2002/0618/1396276.html

      • chickenstock

        Thanks mate

  • ceylon mooney

    i like the best puncher bit. i luv when these dudes talk about that kind of wtf experience.

  • Bar Kokhba

    Thanks for this. As a former Bostonian, I remember very early on reading about the Pender-Downes rivalry, and it was part of the lore that originally piqued my interest in boxing. Thus the name of Terry Downes has long been familiar to me, and I made sure to acquaint myself with his impressive record.

    (Later on, at an amateur match, I had the good fortune to meet Mr. Paul Pender. I wanted desperately to ask him about the Downes trilogy, but was too star-struck to put a sentence together…)

  • Fabio P

    He was the oldest living British world champion since 1991. He was also the oldest living middleweight champion for 17 days.