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Deontay Wilder-Luis Ortiz off; champ to face Bermane Stiverne in rematch 

Deontay Wilder (right) and Bermane Stiverne pose before their first WBC heavyweight title bout January 2015. They will fight their rematch on Nov. 4, 2017 now that Luis Ortiz's failed drug test has cancelled his shot at Wilder. Photo / Naoki Fukuda
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Deontay Wilder, for the third time in less than two years, has had a fight cancelled due to an opponent’s failed drug test.

Luis Ortiz tested positive for the banned substances chlorothiazide and hydrochlorothiazide, diuretics commonly used in athletics as masking agents. Ortiz maintains that the banned substances found in his system through WBC-mandated VADA testing are the result of prescribed medication he was using to treat high blood pressure. However, Ortiz did not report to VADA that he had been on the prescription drug prior to undergoing testing for the Wilder bout. And on Wednesday, the WBC announced the fight wouldn’t go through.

Instead, Wilder will fight Bermane Stiverne in a rematch on Nov. 4 at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York. Stiverne is the WBC’s mandatory challenger and accepted a six-figure step-aside fee to allow the Ortiz fight to happen in the first place.

Stiverne is the only man to go the distance with Wilder, but he wasn’t remotely competitive during their January 2015 bout. Since then, Stiverne has fought only once, a decision victory over Derric Rossy in which he was dropped.

Stiverne was set to face Dominic Breazeale on the undercard, but now he has the title fight and return encounter with Wilder he coveted. And some extra money, too.

  • learnmore

    With the time they were taken, I was leaning towards they were going to give Wilder v Ortiz the all clear. I suppose its the right decision but we have ended up with a fight most people dont want to see. Stiverne laughing all the way to the bank. Will Stiverne & his team play hardball with the financial negotiation knowing Wilder is stuck with him has an opponent.

  • NeverReadTheComments

    This fucking nigger wilder-disgraceful cowardly clown,like all american “boxers”

    • chickenstock

      You. Prick.

    • Fist_ti_cuffs

      Kill yourself!!

    • Guy Grundy

      You know,there are ways to phrase your opinion without resorting to such immature drivel.

      • Mauro Hermida

        He has Bin Laden as his avatar. The bar is very low.

    • Giuseppe

      You shame the house of Bin Laden!

      • Reggie Woodard

        LOL…

    • Ramreiz Manuel

      you sound mad mommie must have left your daddy for a black man

    • Uncle Sham

      come on guys….read his username for f**ks sake

  • ceylon mooney

    whyte. face whyte. you already paid stiverne a fortune to fight someone else, so fight someone else. got damm.

    • Giuseppe

      Or even Chisora

      • ceylon mooney

        thatd be cool, too

  • Ten Count Toronto

    Allowing the Ortiz fight to go ahead as a title bout would have really undermined the deterrent of their clean boxing program. It could only be justified as a non-title bout and Ortiz forfeiting at least 60% of his purse, very unlikely Ortiz would have accepted that anyway.

    Stiverne isn’t the greatest choice either because he recently failed a doping test too. And nobody really wanted to see Wilder-Stiverne 2 in the first place.

    But just because of the distractions & inactivity Wilder has had the past couple of years, it could be a more watchable & competitive fight, especially if Stiverne is more professional about his weight and sharpness this time around (and assuming he gets through his own drug testing,,)

  • Alberto Vazquez

    Why stiberne dude only fought once since the defeat… This is not cool the wbc needs to get there shit straight… Wack ass fight….

    • Uncle Sham

      Stiverne was also dropped in that one fight versus journeyman Rossy and was gifted a decision

  • KillaBlu

    Weak fight. Only good thing about it is that Whyte will probably step in and fight Breazeale, now that will be a good fight.

    • Uncle Sham

      Can’t wait to NOT watch this!

  • Stephen M

    Buzzkill…

  • Frank-dogg

    Not happy with this fight, but you have to give the bronze bomber a break. All these mofos are juicing. Outbox Stiverne one more time and let’s unify with Joshua. Come on champ!!!

    • Keano

      Wilder doesn’t deserve the fight

      • D Johnson

        Why?

        • Keano

          What has he done to earn the payday? Fight Whyte instead of Stiverne and he deserves it.

          • Cousin Strawberry ( Cheech)

            Yep I agree. At least fight Whyte.

          • Keano

            Whyte wins IMO

          • Wade Wilson

            I agree but he does have to get Stiverne out of the way and that’s not his doing.

          • Keano

            But he’s already paid step aside and if Dillian gets the fight Eddie Hearn will probably pay his purse so Wilders team have no excuse

          • Wade Wilson

            It all depends on the details of the contract as well as what the WBC has to say about it. It could have been specific for the Ortiz fight, that’s not out of the question. Besides, Wilder wants to fight now and not cancel the show and most would want more time to prepare for Wilder specifically. It’s best to just give him this so we don’t have to hear about Stiverne anymore. Think about it, one bad fight and Stiverne is most likely gone! Isn’t that worth it?

          • Keano

            Oh yeah. The main issue here is the WBC making Stiverne mandatory

          • JV316

            whyte deserves it? lol

          • Keano

            I meant Wilder doesn’t deserve the Joshua payday. Wilder isnt even a payday for Dillian Whyte, Eddie Hearn made a big offer because he wants a Joshua Whyte rematch as a unification, it’s a big offer for Wilder.

          • Joe Steed III

            Isn’t boxing about the best fighting the best?? Why are you counting other men’s pockets. Who are you to say what another man deserves monetarily..?? Wilder is heavyweight champ who beat a better opponent than Charles Martin for his title. He has KOd everybody and he has called everybody out. Guys keep juicing and why is that?? Aj is a coward if they don’t fight next. Wilder calling him out and this dude talking about 2020?? I fucking hate you dudes. You have such biased and hypocritical logic. Shit is fucking gay. You the type of dude that hates Mayweather because he made Manny wait or dislike Canleo because he didn’t fight Ggg when the wbc ordered it. But you have no problem with Joshua trying to stall Wilder. Fucking coward ass fans and coward ass fighters like you are why boxing is shitted on by mainstream . You talking about money like you gettin paid off the shit. Real boxing fans want to see the best fight the best period. Everything else is bullshit. White is Ajs sloppy seconds and if Wilder beat him that’s all y’all would say.

          • Keano

            Yes it is about the best fighting the best. Wilder is not and has done nothing to prove he is anywhere near “the best” Why is AJ a coward if they don’t fight next? Because he doesn’t want to lose the belts he has? Where the organisations actually enforce sensible mandatories? I would respect Wilder for even stepping in the ring with Whyte win or lose.

          • Joe Steed III

            So who is the best….Pulev?? Parker?? Dude shut the fuck up!!! STRAIGHT OUT THE HORSES MOUTH!!!!!
            https://youtu.be/WwmW4GF55l4

          • Joe Steed III

            “You the type of dude that hates Mayweather because he made Manny wait or dislike Canleo because he didn’t fight Ggg when the wbc ordered it. But you have no problem with Joshua trying to stall Wilder. ”

            You fucking hypocrite stop talking to me!!!

          • D Johnson

            To make those claims and then act like a wilder hasn’t fought anybody. Lol 🤦‍♂️

          • Keano

            He hasn’t fought anybody

          • left hook

            WBC told him to fight Stiverne and whyte doesnt deserve a title fight yet.

          • Keano

            Whyte deserves a title shot more than Wilder deserves his title

          • left hook

            Based on?

          • Keano

            Opponents fought

          • left hook

            So where’s opponents are better than Wilder’s? He was mandated by WBC.. dissing him doesnt make sense, instead direct your anger towards Ortiz and Povetkin.

          • Keano

            I assume you meant to say Whyte. Yes his opponents are better

          • left hook

            Yes Whyte (auto correct).
            List the top names whyte has beaten?

          • Keano

            I didn’t say anything about beating. I said fighting.

          • left hook

            Doesn’t matter….list recognizable names Whyte has beaten/ fought?

          • Keano

            What do you mean it doesn’t matter? You’re now speaking about something completely different than I was.

          • left hook

            Who did Whyte beat that makes U feel he deserve a title shot?? Very simple
            question..

          • D Johnson

            Please👎🏻

          • D Johnson

            Come on dude it’s the biggest fight in the heavyweight division hands-down.

          • Keano

            Which Wilder does not deserve. Joshua can make millions fighting whoever he wants. If Wilder fights Whyte and beats him faster than Joshua did then the hype for the fight goes through the roof, and he’ll get a career high payday for fighting Whyte. Why would he turn that down unless he is scared?

          • JV316

            wilder has been making millions fighting whoever he wants too. he draws well and gets good tv ratings here in US, not joshua level but good numbers. why would he go to UK to fight anyone other than joshua? fighting whyte doesn’t move the needle at all. UK fans already know wilder is biggest threat to joshua, and US fans have no idea who whyte is, they’ve never heard of him.

          • D Johnson

            Some people are honestly delusional and can only see things from one viewpoint .

          • JV316

            seriously. he must not know we don’t get sky sports in the US lol

          • Keano

            Because he will get more than 3 times as much money fighting Whyte as he will anyone else apart from Joshua? And it would also build Wilders profile in the UK where he is seen as a joke. UK fans know Wilder is the biggest threat to Joshua? Please, Pulev is a bigger threat. Daniel Dubois is a bigger threat. Wilder is a chicken legged bum slayer

          • JV316

            haha now we see that it’s really just hate coming from you. you weren’t able to hide it for long. hmmm looks like wilder isn’t the one who want to put off the fight: http://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-joshua-either-scared-hes-doping-make-fight–121191

          • Keano

            Where does Joshua say there he wants to put the fight off? Seems like Wilder has decided to say it. Joshua has always said he wants to fight Wilder once he’s done his mandatories.

          • JV316
          • JV316
          • JV316

            by the way i’m an american and i love joshua, he’s an exciting fighter and he’s seems like an awesome dude, unfortunately folks here lying about wilder and making me (and others) state some facts to establish reality

        • Kiowhatta

          Because he claims to know who’s doping or not. Stiverne is a proven doper, so why agree to fight him out of the other three? Because he’s the safest bet.
          The guy is a complete fraud. He’s just a naturally tall guy with a temper.

    • Uncle Sham

      Funny you mention juicing….Stiverne was popped for a failed drug test prior to his last fight scheduled vs Povetkin….and Stiverne used the pathetic “i drank the wrong energy drink” excuse

    • Kiowhatta

      Yes, but one must wonder about Wilders choices since he claims insider knowledge on who’s doping and who’s not.
      Given that, he has to take responsibility for taking the risk by signing with known drug cheats.
      In any case, he comes out smelling of roses. It’s the perfect alibi for a guy who doesn’t want to risk his precious belt.
      C’mon, Two years as a ‘champ’ and he picks four fighters with tarnished reputations including Stiverne. He just gets to pick the easiest of the bunch, and nobody blames him because it’s not his fault, even though he has foreknowledge of his opponents.
      Wilder has fooled the boxing world again.
      Face it, the guy is an arrogant insecure legend in his own mind.

      • D Johnson

        Sounds to me like you guys are worried that he might knock of AJ and that just wouldn’t be fair to you. I can’t believe how some of you guys can twist shit up and NOW claim its wilders fault these bums are doping. Fucking unbelievable.

    • D Johnson

      Proof that people talk out of both sides of their asses. Just read some of the garbage below👇. Before he signed contracts To fight these guys he was ducking them. He signs the contract, goes through a training camp, flies halfway around the world for the fight, his opponent fails the drug test, and it somehow his fault. It’s so mind numbingly dumb I don’t even know what to say.

  • Wade Wilson

    I’ll make sure to at least record the fight but I won’t exactly be crushed if I have to miss it.

    • Mauro Hermida

      Youtube.

      • Wade Wilson

        You’re right. It’s not worth wasting the space.

  • Giuseppe

    not wilder’s fault but this is about as boring as it gets. Stiverne is gonna look FAT.

    • D Johnson

      Look fat? He is fat lol!

      • Giuseppe

        this is the truth

  • Tony Nightstick

    What’s up with the photo? Is Stiverne looking for a new gig as a John Travolta impersonator? And Wilder looks like he’s doing Soupy Sales’ “The Mouse.”

  • Arjay Cee

    You’d think with Ortiz’s past, Wilder’s team would have had a Plan B.

    What was wrong with Dillian Whyte? I wouldn’t pick him over Deontay, but he’d be much more game than Stiverne.

    • Uncle Sham

      Probably because he doesn’t want to be seen as facing Joshua’s “leftovers”….also, Joshua’s leftovers, like Brezeale and Whyte, are much better than fat f**k inactive Stiverne

  • Left Hook2

    Thanks Ortiz….All you had to do was list your PEDs on the form…..

  • Mauro Hermida

    I see Stiverne doing the same shit he did before and getting beat down. Not a fight Im interested in at all.

  • Mike M.

    Didn’t both fighters sign up for the WBC’s anti doping program?. Wouldn’t everyone involved have known Ortiz’s was taking medication for high blood pressure?

  • Joe Ordanio

    Yawn …zzzzz

  • Cousin Strawberry ( Cheech)

    I knew it. What a horrible matchup. it’s confirmed, Wilder is in the WBC protection program.

    • Jay

      You go fight him then chump.

      • Keano

        I’d KO chicken legs within 30 seconds

  • Kiowhatta

    This is probably what Wilder hoped for anyway, since he claims to know who all the cheats are in the division.
    I hope this fight is as boring as the first one, and Wilder is hounded and shamed into shutting the hell up until he takes responsibility for his career choices.
    If you know a guys a drug cheat before you sign to fight him, then why sign? Hypocrite.

    • JV316

      because you assume with VADA testing that this time he won’t cheat and screw himself out of a big pay day. not that hard to figure out

      • Kiowhatta

        I didn’t assume anything. Nobody on here is in Wilder’s, Ortiz’s or any other major HW’s inner circle I think it’s safe to say.
        I didn’t claim it was the truth, but I’ll say one more time for the dummy’s:

        IF WILDER CLAIMS TO KNOW WHO’S DOPING THEN WHY SIGN TO FIGHT THE GUY IN THE FIRST PLACE?

        The simplest or most obvious explanation is not always the truth. I want to see Wilder in with quality opponents, and as it stands he appears to be clear of guilt, but not responsibility for picking guys he knows are dirty. That’s just setting up a situation where he can bombast his way up and down social media about being the best and cleanest etc.
        He may not have planned it so pathologically, but he comes out smelling of roses, and gets to beat up another C level fighter.

        • JV316

          lol some of you guys seriously need to get another hobby, some of the moronic stuff i see spewed here is really something. yes, they paid 6-figure step aside money to stiverne and predicted that ortiz’s team would fail to report therapeutic use of a drug he would then test positive for, thus causing wbc to scrap the fight and forcing him to fight stiverne anyway. it’s so crazy it just might work! get a grip man. your hate is blinding you.