Friday, December 15, 2017  |

News

Canelo-GGG: Don’t let one atrocious scorecard ruin an excellent fight

Photo / @HBOBoxing
17
Sep

LAS VEGAS, Nevada – It wasn’t Hagler-Hearns but it damn sure was entertaining.

The expectations were inexplicably high for the long-awaited showdown between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin to the point that it was unlikely that the two would ever reach that point. However, it was certainly an action-packed battle of middleweights that kept fight fans on the edge of their seats.

Everything was moving along quite well as the fight featured multiple ebbs and flows from both fighters. Canelo showcased exceptional speed and upper-body movement while GGG hunted his red-headed prey during every single minute of their 12-round affair. The exchanges were ferocious, the crowd was rabid

Photo / @HBOBoxing

and social media was on fire as GGG and Canelo delivered a show worthy of an immediate rematch.

The only problem was one particular official scorecard that completely soured those watching on what was an excellent fight.

Adelaide Byrd’s atrocious 118-110 scorecard in favor of Canelo had the 22,358 fans in attendance — along with those watching at home and the members of the media — gasp in horror. This wasn’t the first time that Canelo was the beneficiary of an abysmal scorecard. The Mexican lost what appeared to be a one-sided fight against Floyd Mayweather in 2013 but was gifted a 114-114 score to salvage a majority decision loss. After a nip-and-tuck fight against Erislandy Lara in 2014, Canelo was up on one scorecard with an eyebrow-raising 117-111. The 2013 showdown with Austin Trout that eventually set up the Mayweather fight was won by Canelo. However, a scorecard of 118-109 was bizarre considering that he was up 115-112 and 116-111 on the other two scorecards.

Byrd gave GGG only the 4th and 7th rounds. She completely overlooked the fact that Golovkin was the aggressor for the entirety of their 12-round affair and out-landed Canelo in every round but two with an overall Compubox line of 218-169 in his favor. There’s simply no way that Byrd should have seen the fight by such a wide margin … for either fighter.

Photo / @HBOBoxing

The challenging part is trying to convince the world to not let one abomination of a scorecard ruin what was 36 minutes of violent chess. Alvarez countered and circled the ring while Golovkin snapped his jab and fired punches with ill intentions. This wasn’t a fight with a clear winner as you could make a convincing case for either fighter. The idea that this fight ended in a split draw is far from outlandish. And if Byrd scores the fight for Canelo with a more reasonable tally of 115-113 or 116-114, we’re not having this conversation.

Whatever margin that Byrd decided to score the fight in favor of Canelo wasn’t going to change the fact that it was going to end up as a draw. It’s just that the score was so egregiously wrong that we couldn’t help but focus on it.

That conversation about Byrd’s inability to properly score a fight will carry on today and perhaps the next few days. But, ultimately, we’ll forget about it. Hopefully, the NSAC won’t forget about it and take proper measures to ensure that better judges are ringside for some of the sport’s biggest fights.

Photo / HoganPhotos

What we should remember is an excellent fight that is begging for a rematch. We should be talking about Canelo’s gutsy performance and how he proved he could throw down with the boogieman of boxing. We should also be talking about Golovkin, an indestructible force that refused to back down and was economical and accurate.

There’s absolutely no reason why these two shouldn’t face each other on Cinco De Mayo in 2018. Although Canelo was relatively non-committal on the idea, Golovkin wasted no time agreeing to that idea. After all, who wouldn’t want to see these two attempt to bludgeon each other for another 36 minutes?

But, here we are, discussing a scorecard that really didn’t have a bearing on the result. We should be upset because Byrd will likely be back to ruining somebody else’s future with a stroke of the pen. But to criticize the fight and boxing’s excellent 2017 is a step too far. It’s an evil that we wish wasn’t necessary but it continues to run wild in the sport of pugilism. Fortunately, it didn’t end up in skewing the entire decision. But it’s certainly something that fight fans have every right to trash.

The good news is that these two are likely to face each other again and we’ll get another 36 minutes of violence.

Boxing needed a fight like this. Before Michael Buffer read the scores, everyone gushed about the fight on social media. The arena was buzzing and whispers of a rematch began floating into the T-Mobile Arena air. Maybe their next fight will be Hagler-Hearns considering that they’ll be a little more familiar with each other. Who knows? But what we do know is that this chapter has yet to be closed and it is almost certain to be just as good, if not better, the second time. Both fighters (and fans) wanted closure on September 16th and didn’t get it. But the business of boxing will boom in 2018 when these two meet again.

And as long as Adelaide Byrd isn’t ringside, outside or within 1000 feet, we should be fine.

  • Mitchell Nelms

    It was a good fight. Both fighters landed shots that would knock out most camels, Conan style. That shot in the fifth landed by Golovkin spun Canelo’s body around. Canelo landed the same shot that nearly killed Khan in the 7th or 8th and Golovkin walked through it. They’re both a couple of tanks.

    • ceylon mooney

      speakin of conans camel KO, can you believe this…?

    • JV316

      agreed. ggg was landing more, a ton of jabs, but canelo was landing absolute bombs, ggg chin is incredible. luckily there are 3 judges and not just 1, and the 115-113 and 114-114 cards i thought were fair, and end result of draw was fair. i was rooting for canelo but i can only see draw or close ggg win, i don’t think i can see a score in favor of canelo.

      • Julio

        There is no doubt that GGG’s chin is all time great. We talk about Hagler and Chavez Sr, but GGG doesn’t even move when you hit him.

        • Emeka Nnaji Jr.

          Incredible chin. That’s why I dobt think Canelo wants anymore of GGG. Fights like that you fight once and move along. It’s too much mental pressure, a guy who can walk through your best shots and is continually come at you, who can also knock you out with one punch is a lot.

        • Mauro Hermida

          Monzon is on a different level.

          • Julio

            Dude, Monzon was dropped several times in his career. Have a seat.

          • Mauro Hermida

            1 time in what 90 fights. Sit down and eat shit. Don’t be an asshole.

          • Julio

            Dude, the bottom line is, that GGG has NEVER been off his feet, not even slightly wobbled in ANY of his fights, amateur or pro. That is still better than all the stuff you spat out there. Again, have a seat. And Monzon was dropped more than once, do your research.

          • Mauro Hermida

            Done my research. He was not you fucking clown. Please name the multiple people who dropped him. You sit there and say ggg has never been dropped? Where is the proof? What because he has said it or maybe Sanchez, as if his word means anything. I have heard that idiots say he punches like a cruiser or that he fights cruisers in camp. More nonsense. Fact is he never came close to dropping canelo. You cannot believe everything you hear and call it facts fuck face. Fact is we, you and me asshole have seen him get hurt. I saw him get stunned by Kell brook. He isn’t impenetrable. And I will say this again, b hop also has a better chin. Fuck off for being a clown. You didn’t have to respond like an asshat as if my response was ludicrous when you know it isn’t. Next thing you are going to try to tell me that Monzon would take his overrated ass to school. You could have been a grownup with your responses as you have been in the past, instead you resort to childish shit. Too bad I cannot ducking smack your ass piece p.s. shot that you are.

          • Julio

            Yeah sure, and again, have a seat. It suits you better.

          • Mauro Hermida

            The seat suits me fine with you on the floor from getting put to sleep for your stupid comment.

          • Julio

            Ah the keyboard warriors at their best…

          • Brandon Harmon

            Anytime a person rambles on using profanity; it instantly makes them look like a loser and a moron. You, are obviously both with a sprinkle of idiot for flavor. You babble about Julio being childish but it’s clear who the child is in that exchange.

          • Mauro Hermida

            Why the fuck did you jump in on this? Do you like jumping on the pile? Is Julio your girl? I was talking to him and the back and forth finished days ago. Doubt that guy needs an add like yourself coming to the rescue. Its not hard not does it require much thought to see you are a jackass.

      • left hook

        It was a very good fight. GGG doesn’t no how to avoid punches…he needs to work on that. After watching the fight again..i think Canelo won. GGG missed alot of shots. He was pressuring and throwing but not landing much. But GGG’s chin is incredible.

        • Joe Steed III

          My exact sentiments. Had Ggg easily winning last night live. Watched again this morning and had Canelo winning 1-3 and 10-12 which would make it a draw. If you could find any reason to give Canelo or Ggg an extra rd the fight could’ve gone either way.

          • left hook

            I had rounds 1-3 and perhaps rd 4 to Canelo and 10-12 to canelo.

          • Joe Steed III

            That’s funny cause I had Canelo perhaps winning rd 5. In truth 4,5,8& 9 were all kind of tough to score. IMO Canelo won his 6 rounds in clearer fashion did Ggg his.

          • left hook

            I agree, canelo won his 6 rounds clear.

          • jorge linares

            Yes and Canelo won the first minute of every round that went to GGG. In fact I thought he toyed with him until his stamina drained at the end of each of the middle rounds.

          • Mike M.

            Canelo’s offense was “prettier” than Golovkin’s but there’s no way I can say Canelo toyed with him, homie arm punches too often. If Golovkin starts faster and focuses on Canelo’s body in a rematch there’s no way Alvarez makes it out of there I feel.

            Forgot which round but Canelo spun Golovkins head around with an over hand and Gennady just stepped right through it. The look on Alvarez’s face said “[email protected]# this shit” all over it.

          • coeumo

            This is part of what I think happened, I scored a couple middle rds for Canelo that he won for two minutes, but GGG was winning at the end of the rd, he won the majority of the rd so for me Canelo got it but I can see people giving it to GGG because he was winning the rd in the final minute.

          • JV316

            ok, i haven’t rewatched yet

        • JV316

          agreed. yeah wasn’t trying to say someone else couldn’t find another rd to give to canelo for the win, just me personally. to me it was easy 1-3 and 10-12 for canelo.

        • Emeka Nnaji Jr.

          Lol I’ve been telling people this since yesterday. GGG missed all night. People just don’t have the sharp eyes to catch it. Canelo jist didn’t make him pay enough and was gassed. He could have easily won. Canelo was the more impressive fighter to me, but he allowed GGG to pressure him way to much. A draw is ok, but I can see it going to GGG 7 to 5

          • Stephen M

            Canelo certainly had the more eye catching punches. But he didn’t throw enough. I can’t see Canelo having the win. A draw or GGG win.

          • Mauro Hermida

            And his shots didn’t faze Ggg at all. But it looked like Gggs punches had Canelo in defense mode all night. That guy has zero stamina.

          • Stephen M

            I thought he did quite well. You can’t forget that GGG bulldozed most of his last 19 odd opponents. Getting to the final bell in an arguable draw is already an accomplishment.

          • Mauro Hermida

            Ggg made Canelo miss more all night. He landed less for a reason. Yet some guys on this site give him zero credit. Canelo landed 25 percent of his shots. He lost.

          • Smootchie

            Nope…watched the fight twice. I had it by a round for GGG the first time live…second time with sound off and alone I was able to see that all GGG did was plod and miss almost everything but his jabs , draw was plausible but if somebody earned the win it was Alvarez

          • Don Buckley

            Nope…watched it twice, like that qualifies you know what the hell your talking about.
            Do you know what confirmation bias is ?
            You have it.
            There are ZERO experts today after several viewings and analysis that had no favorites going into fight who agree with you.
            The unbiased professional consensus is GGG won by 2-4 rounds.
            Never score a fight when you have an interest in the outcome.

          • Don Buckley

            Listen to Teddy Atlas rant, he was emotional, upset and 100% correct. Golden Boy not only picked venue, and judges, he paid their salaries alongside managing Canelo. Do you see any problem in this ?
            Do you see where unbiased viewers may have a problem with an egregious decision knowing the facts ?
            You do understand this is a best possible outcome for golden boy promotions ?

            Many of us long time boxing fans have gone down this road years ago with Don King, we watched him ruin our beloved sport out of personal greed.

            Don’t let your desire for Canelo to win ( or at least not lose ) blind you of what happened here. He lost, but the tragedy was in the decision. Canelo is an amazingly brilliant fighter, this was BAD for him. He does not need this corruption to tarnish his career. It was a great fight, I did not care who won, I still don’t care who won, but the only winner was Oscar ( golden boy )
            GGG controlled the tempo of fight from start to finish and landed and through more punches ( compu-box ) Don’t focus on WHO you wanted to win but accept who ACTUALLY did.

          • Smootchie

            I believe in in landed punches and over all effectiveness. I can point out out “experts” like Roy Jones Jr that fully agree with my take on the fight…but unlike you..I don’t need a mob consensus to reinforce my perception of reality…..to myself. I appreciate both boxers and what they bring to the table. Why don’t you and your butthurt GGG fanatics try and separate a bad judge’s actions from distorting the facts presented by reality.

            If the idiot judge had scored a draw or even a one point difference either way…this would be no controversy…and you wouldn’t be here crying over the outcome.

            The fact is that a draw is a perfectly logical outcome if your objectivity isnt obliterated by fanaticism.

        • AngelMorningstar

          You’re blind or this a bs account. There is literally NO way a gassing and running fighter barley throwing any punches can win.
          #GGGwasrobbed

          • Smootchie

            GGG couldnt hurt a gassed out fighter on the ropes huh? GGG never let loose because he knew the price was too high at any point in the fight before the 10th…which he lost

          • left hook

            I guess u are blind then or bias. Canelo never stopped throwing punches and he was hitting Golovkin alot.
            You don’t get points for your opponent gassing or backpeddling (what u non fighters call running). You don’t even get points for pressure or just coming forward. It has to be effective pressure, which means coming forward to pressure and ‘LANDING’ punches on your opponent. You dont get points for throwing punches..it has to ‘land’ and GGG was missing alot.

  • Orca

    Lots to say about this fight but only time to say……I had 2 scorecards running last night. One that reflected who I thought was winning and one where I was giving Canelo the benefit of the doubt. I had GGG 8-4 and 6-6 Canelo. I’ve seen worse decisions for sure but not many worse scorecards than Byrd’s. It sucks that this is a sport where we have to wish for a ‘fair fight’ as well as a good fight during pre fight talk.

    • Raul Ayala

      I dont know what the boxing authorities are waiting to stop judges that do so bad desicions

      • Orca

        It still be hard to stamp it out. Judging a fight is subjective. There isn’t a manual. But scorecards like Byrd’s really does scream incompetence or corruption. It’s so far removed from reality that there is no excuse.

        • Stephen M

          There is always the possibility that, given that the judges sit on different sides of the ring, the significant shots of one boxer are often blocked from the view of one judge. I know it sounds farfetched, but given enough fights, every possible thing that could happen will happen.
          When watching on TV, they always switch between cameras to give us the best possible view. The judges don’t get this.
          I’m not saying that this was the case, just that it is a possible explanation for fights were the scorecards vary.

          • Brave_Lee_Flea

            “the significant shots of one boxer are often blocked from the view of one judge”

            Just one of the judges, in every round? Come off it.

          • Stephen M

            Well, you know that statisticians say that given enough time, monkeys hammering away on keyboards could write Shakespeare’s plays.
            I’m not saying it’s probable, but it is possible to have enough of Golovkins punches, in three or four rounds, blocked from her view that it significantly changed the scoring.

          • Smootchie

            Compubox numbers suffer from the same disadvantages as judges. It’s just wrong that I as a spectator 1k miles from the fight has a much better view of the fight that the punch counters or the judges.

    • WillieSmalls

      If you wanted to be fair & impartial maybe you should have been running 3 scorecards, one giving GGG the benefit of the doubt. Odd.

      • Orca

        Come on, we all knew it would be Canelo that would be the beneficiary of any crazy scorecards and that’s how it played out. 8-4 was how I seen the fight. Give the close rounds to Alvarez and I have a draw. I like both guys and thought it was a close fight with some hard to score rounds. Thought Canelo was great in parts of that fight. Sad that one scorecard has cast a shadow on the fight. Who did you have?

        • WillieSmalls

          I had it 114-114. I gave the first 4 rounds to Canelo, then 10 & 12. My intitial thought at the final bell was that GGG would get the decision. Then, knowing it was close, I worried they would award Canelo with a dubious decision. Had Byrd scored it 115-113 for Canelo I think most would have accepted it.

          • Orca

            I’m not going to argue with your score. If Byrd had scored by two points, people would still be contesting the result but the after taste wouldn’t be quite so bad. It was a close, difficult to score fight but that card was inexcusable.

  • Michel Desgrottes

    I had canelo winnng, either way I don’t need a rematch, everybody move on, canelo go back down to 154, ggg fight charlo your mandatory or go unify, ggg was supposed to use this fight to seperate himself as a true superstar but he didn’t deliver a KO or pummel canelo, so he won’t blow up like he intended, canelo no longer owes him anything

    • Steve hemming

      I had canelo winning 9 of the 12…. Aggression doesn’t win fights on scorecards… Clean punching does…I thought canelo showed a masterclass in defensive boxing landing cleaner punches.that said I was impressed with ggg he’s a terrific fighter.

      • ceylon mooney

        effective aggression is one of 4 criteria for judging a pro boxing fight. golovkin missed a lot but landed more clean punches. alavarez defense was REALLY good. golovkin missed so many shots and didnt really bother throwin hard ones.

        • TNT

          I didn’t see GGG landing an overwhelming number of clean punches though he did land some. Canelo slipped, parried and partially blocked a lot of GGG’s punches. It seemed that Canelo landed most of the eye-catching clean punches throughout the fight, and most of these punches were power punches. It was interesting… Golovkin, in my opinion, doesn’t look like he used to. Is it age or does Canelo present a unique set of problems? I really expected to see GGG cut that ring off more effectively, drive that jab, corner his man and hammer with a few punches but Canelo was making him miss badly with upperbody movement and economic footwork. He’d land a pnch or two (others would miss just as badly but get GGG to reset).

      • Turner Wednesday

        Quite clearly you’ve been masturbating too much and you’ve gone blind.

        • Steve hemming

          Quite clearly I’m not entitled to join a debate with an opinion without being insulted….. As an ex amateur boxer I appreciate and respect other opinions….. You amigo are in the wrong place.

          • Turner Wednesday

            Looking at your avatar, you have an amateur wife as well. Or is she your sparring partner?

      • left hook

        I agree with u. I thought Canelo won. He landed the cleaner and eye catching punches. GGG has a good chin and power…no skills set.

      • AngelMorningstar

        You’re blind af go get your eyes checked boy. Gassing by round 5 and running while throwing single punches does not win a fight.

    • left hook

      I thought Canelo won too. A rematch won’t be a bad idea but GGG looked bigger than Canelo.

      • Michel Desgrottes

        Nah I prefer that Sergei dude or Charlo get their mandatory shots first, let’s not halt the division and the belts for this shit in May

        • wrecksracer

          The rematch is all up to Canelo. My guess is that he will wait until GGG gets older. Canelo goes after Billy Ho Sanders next. I’m not sure what GGG does next. A Charlo fight would be great.

          • Colin Mc Flurry.

            BJS, after his snooze fest last night, shows he means business, he called out Amir Khan.
            Paper champion clown.

          • wrecksracer

            That BJS fight literally put me to sleep in the middle of the day. After 8 rounds, I bailed and took a nap.

    • FLOMATARD

      Where’s Floyd?

    • Charlie U.

      Just like Adelaide Byrd, your scorecard was filled out before the fight even began.

      • Michel Desgrottes

        Nah first three rounds and last three I scored for CANELO, middle ggg, but I think there was a swing round in the middle I have to CANELO, it’s not that controversial, we’ve become such a sensitive overeactive society, if u feel ggg won, kudos, not that big of a deal, some would say CANELO isn’t a true middle weight and is better served dominating 154

  • dft313

    How does an egregiously wide scorecard not have an impact on the fight? There was a judge going out of her way to favour the house fighter. A fair judge might have agreed with the 115-113 card for Golovkin. Of course it makes a difference.

  • Tim Mckey T Boris

    i expected after round 1 ggg will do the business but canelo just frustrates him, canelo made ggg a lot of miss….yes, ggg was the aggressor but canelo made a beautiful and smart boxing which ggg hit a lot of miss….. and, in the 2nd half of the fight canelo looks he was the bigger and stronger man in the ring which i believe canelo won by desicion not a draw…. if daniel jacobs believes won their fight with ggg much more i believe canelo won the fight with ggg because canelo did much more than daniel jacobs……

    • Warren Keith Bell

      GGG landed over 60 more punches and most were to the head. If he had put all those 60 to the body we might not have given that bogus judge a chance to rob him because Canelo would have been out.

      • Tim Mckey T Boris

        if you really watched the fight, ggg landed the 60 more punches as what you saying because of canelo himself, canelo chose to stay in the rope to let and test ggg’s punching power(most of all were missed) and that’s his tactics to let ggg get tired and thats what’s canelo’s brilliance in the ring…. boxing is not all powers but more brain….

        • Raul Ayala

          You must see the fight again !

  • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

    The irony of running damage control over a fight billed as boxing’s saviour against the supposed farce that was may vs mac. Now ask yourself which fight did more to hurt the sport we love.

    • ceylon mooney

      may-may didnt hurtthe sport at all; it only irritated hardcore boxing fans

      this, however…

      • left hook

        I think it also irritated mayweather haters. The hater would have been happy if Conor had KOed Floyd.

        • ceylon mooney

          that fight def pissed off a lotta serious boxing fans.

          i tell u the MMA world woulda LUVD it! so wpuld the people who dint know they were betting on a rigged exhibition fight.

          • left hook

            Yep and boxing fans who hate Floyd…like Roderick.

      • B A

        Agreed. In fact I would say may-mac helped the sport in casual fan and non fan’s eyes due to mayweather being more entertaining than usual

        • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

          Exactly!! This result has unravelled the good that may vs mac did!!

          • ceylon mooney

            yea…i hate that

            i really have no idea how this looks to someone whos not a hardcore fan

  • A F

    That scorecard is inexplicable. GGG was winning comfortably in my eyes (8-4), Canelo did a great job defensively but just wasn’t landing enough back himself. He did land some eye catching punches but just not enough to take consistent rounds in my opinion. 118-110 is just outrageous though and as the article says, not the first time Canelo’s benefited from a clearly wrong scorecard. If I was GGG I wouldn’t be agreeing to a rematch in Vegas, I was doubtful he could win a decision against Canelo there and now convinced he can’t.

    • Mike Prado

      Yup. And I think Canelo’s too tough for GGG at this point in his career to definitively KO. Golovkin will always have the cards stacked against him versus Canelo. Maybe if they fought in New York?

      • Brave_Lee_Flea

        Maybe if they fought in Europe?

        If I were GGG I wouldn’t fight Canelo again on that side of the Atlantic. It’s clear that judging in the USA is, shall we say, less than objective? And anywhere in South America would be worse.

    • Smootchie

      You don’t win a fight on a single scorcard..very hard to dominate a fight with just a jab when you are being outlanded with power shots and combinations. GGG didn’t do enough to claim victory and neither did Alvarez. Despite the moronic judge …a draw was a good call.

      • “being outlanded with power shots…” A margin of 4 more power shots for Canelo.

        • Smootchie

          Where did you get that number? Compubox…that shit is garbage. Two guys sitting ringside mashing a button every time they think they see a punch landed. If GGG landed so many power shots …how the he did Alvarez keep his head on his neck?….and unmarked?

  • Quentin Lee

    Terrible

  • Dave Rado

    It won’t ruin it provided that Byrd is banned from judging fights. Unfortunately the signs are that this won’t happen.

    • Douglass Pinkard

      It probably doesn’t matter either way because judges are beholden to promoters in order to work. Her 118-110 card represents just another item on her job resume. Just another example of how, organizationally, boxing’s still a clown show. It’s just a shame that guys have to sweat and bleed so promoters can get rich pimping them out. Same old boxing.

  • Douglass Pinkard

    The thing which actually spoiled this fight for me was having to witness yet another installment in the “Classless Canelo” series, post-fight.

    After losing to Floyd four years ago he declared himself the better man–only, Floyd wouldn’t stand there and let himself be hit (duh!) otherwise he clearly would’ve won. Then, after last night’s gift draw (where he seemed to think HE was the one that got hard done by) made sure to announce that “GGG’s not the beast everyone said.” This human tampon embarrasses himself and the great tradition of Mexican boxing, to say nothing of Mexican culture as a whole every time he opens his mouth. I get that he’s probably a product of a skimpy fourth-grade education, but, hey, they ALL are. It’s boxing. In truth, it’s the people that raised him up in the this otherwise glorious sport who REALLY should be taken out and smacked for not teaching him be be a man before, during, and AFTER a fight, win, lose, or gift draw.

    Meanwhile, what did GGG say after getting jobbed? “It was a great fight;” “Canelo’s an outstanding fighter;” and “I’d like to thank my MEXICAN fans.” THAT’S what class sounds like. Between this and last year’s stink-bomb decision in Ward/Golovkin the chances I will ever pay to see professional boxing again are between nil and zero.

  • Mark Schoeman

    This isn’t an indictment but those who saw a close fight. We all get our own opinion, so this isn’t to argue that, but to somebody who saw a clear GGG victory, a judge who gives an extra 3 rounds (that’s the only difference between Byrd and somebody who can accept a one-round Canelo win) is not any different than as those who saw a close fight. Somebody who thought it was close could easily over-value Canelo’s performance. 118-110, 115-113, a draw….it’s all the same to me…people who saw something that wasn’t there.

    If you saw a close fight, then you have to accept a fellow “reasonable” person simply favored one fighter more clearly than the other. If you were impressed by Canelo’s ability to avoid punches (but unbothered by his just avoiding rather than returning fire…in other words more Hector Camacho, less Pernell Whitaker..despite the behind the back punch) then you’d be impressed 10 out of 12 rounds. If you like speed and flash over GGG’s PPP (power, pressure, pace), you’d like it 10 out of 12 rounds. We can make this about Byrd, but really it’s the flaw in a boxing world where we want to protect fighters…because the only way to have clear winners/losers is to go until one can’t go. Short of that, we have to live with disparity of opinion.

    I like Canelo…and I liked Camacho and last night to me felt like Camacho vs Chavez.

  • Kag Ang

    Anyone doubting Byrd’s incompetence, please go watch Lomachenko-Walters round 6 and consider that she gave that round to Walters.

    She needs to go to wherever CJ Ross has gone and for the same reasons. These guys go into the ring putting their lives on the line and deserve more than what appears to be a random judging.

  • Hammer

    Byrd is an idiot. I guess in her eyes dancing and walking backwards wins you rounds. Canelo actually was most effective in the later rounds when he stood his ground more, but no way he won that fight. Both men have excellent chins, especially GGG (I think Canelo is the harder puncher); Anthony Joshua would have a hard time knocking out GGG.

  • stafano

    Theif Va Las Vegas!

    A hell of a fight ruined by incompetence – or much worse?

    First off I want to salute both fighters, what phenomenally tough men.

    But this kind of thing leaves a horrible taste in the mouth.
    being kind to Canelo I can’t see it being any closer than 115-113 to GGG ( that’s giving Canelo a massive benefit of doubt, I had it 7-4-1, 116-113 GGG )
    In the back of my mind I was dreading this Bullshit happening.

    I’m sure the Mafia buried people out in the Nevada desert for less than the 118-110 card turned in last night.

    Rematch – why, what stops this thing happening again?

    • Colin Mc Flurry.

      Stick that bird in mojave desert.

    • Mike Prado

      “In the back of my mind I was dreading this Bullshit happening.”

      Before the fight I was totally nervous for this same reason. I told everyone I was sitting with, “Watch. Regardless of the outcome, one judge will have a card ridiculously in favor of Canelo, a blowout. Watch!”

      Isn’t it sad that we can predict this shit? Sadder still that it need be a concern in the first place.

      • stafano

        I hear you.

  • Mes si…cam atat

    Robbery!

  • mikescapes

    Focusing on Byrd is only half a column. You don’t have to be a boxing writer to know how absurd that score was. Just as damaging is the decision. It wasn’t a draw. GGG was ahead despite good performances by Canelo in the last 2, not 3, rounds. I agree with Harold Letterman, 8-4 GGG. Want to give Canelo another round OK. Make it 7-5. But he didn’t win despite a fine outing. GGG’s jabs won the rounds that judges apparently found close. Yet they gave the nod to Canelo. Were any rounds a draw? Doubt it. So we get the set-up for a rematch. Why is this less scrutinized than Byrd’s disgrace? It’s so hard to give the sport respect viewed from any aspect.

    • AngelMorningstar

      Rematch must happen in New York where Oscar and team cannot buy a win for Canelo.

      • Brave_Lee_Flea

        I think it has to be in Europe. The USA has disgraced itself. Again.

  • Colin Mc Flurry.

    I picked Canelo by UD prefight. I scrored 115-113 for Golovkin.
    It was a very entertaining hard fought close fight.

    118-110 was ridiculous. How much $$$$ did it cost?

  • Raul Ayala

    Y porqué no sancionan jueces que reinciden en sus malas desiciones?

  • Turner Wednesday

    Dougies mailbag will be bulging with rage tomorrow.

  • Don Badowski

    One score card? How about two? Is that fair enough to ruin it?

    • Left Hook2

      True.Shouldn’t have been a draw on one either. GGG should grant a rematch…in Kazakhstan!

  • Scott Carelli

    The judge who had it a draw gave canelo rd1! How?!? As Teddy Atlas said, the ocean, not the log, should be given the rd. Canelo was trying to be Erislandy Lara in there…

    Have a rematch sure, but GGG was robbed, and is now less likely to win the rematch due to father time. There shouldnt have to be a range of outcomes in a fight of this magnitude. Even so, the draw was on the end of the range leaning to Canelo, and should have been a very low probability outcome.

  • Ten Count Toronto

    A few hard to score rounds but not the fight.

    Alvarez only clear rounds were the 2nd & 3rd.

    Golovkin clearly won almost everything from for through 9 as Canelo spent 80% of those rounds running, shaking his head and trying to steal a round with a few seconds work here and there.

    The ;last 3 could have gone either way and if you were hell bent on giving Alvarez every benefit of the doubt you could give him all three without being totally outrageous, That’s still a 7:5 for Golovkin. Lets be even more generous and make the 6th even which is plausible. That’s still 6:5:1 Golovkin. Anything more than that is just plain getting it wrong.

  • Stephen M

    I really enjoyed the fight. I was on the edge of my seat for the full 12. Canelo was excellent and has a lot of heart. GGG just has a bit more in my view. A draw is acceptable but I had a win for GGG.

    • TNT

      Very fair. It really was a good fight. A few years back most of us thought GGG would knock Canelo out cold. And here we are discussing a 12 round decision.

      • Mauro Hermida

        Two years ago when ggg was in his prime he would have, now no.

        • FLOMATARD

          Agreed. GGG looks like he’s declining, passsing his prime due to age.

        • TNT

          Canelo has the luck of the Irish on his side…. GB’s green.

        • Smootchie

          Same GGG. His top opponents have been Jacobs and Alvarez…who made him look very human.

  • ciobanu catalin

    It was a great fight. But the fact still remains that ggg should have won the fight. Canelo fought in spours while golovkin controlled the fight and keep in mind that the champ pressed the challenger… Who ran at times. No matter who is at ringside next time if they can be bought, the problem isnt just that one judge

  • Joe Steed III

    The fight was tough to score in all honesty. The biggest take away from the fight for me was that both Canelo and Ggg are open to body shots. Canelo stymied Ggg a few times with well placed left hooks to the body and When Ggg had Canelo on the ropes he was most effective when going low then high. Canelo has too much head movement not to go to his body and Ggg is perpetually open to straights or jabs to the solar plexus while he is coming forward. After last night Im convinced a prime Mayweather beats both guys simply due to his propensity to stab the body. That’s how he beat Canelo the first time, how he beat Maidana the 2nd and quiet as its kept how Ward beat Kovalev both fights. Canelo also had success with it in the 3rd round I believe. He threw two straights shots in succession to the abdomen of Triple G and it visibly effected his pressure. I was screaming at both guys to throw more to the body. They were both head hunting especially Ggg with that right hand. Which he should’ve started throwing to the body after 5 rounds of Canelo dodging it by simply slightly turning his head to the right. Great fight! The rematch is warranted.

    • TNT

      We already know that Mayweather could beat Canelo (because a past his prime Mayweather did so a few years back). GGG is too slow for a prime Mayweather but sooner or later GGG will land some solid punch and the question is could May have took it? He has been wobbled by littler guys but GGG isn’t little.. I thought Canelo would put more work into the body too. He should have.

      • Joe Steed III

        Usually go back and forth with you negatively but I think this fight in a funny way brought a lot of fans who wouldn’t normally agree together. And I have to be honest for a while I was thinking this newer version of Canelo could beat a prime Mayweather but I was certainly proved wrong last night.

  • 90s swagger

    Great fight – crap decision.

    Credit to Canelo he’s a world class operator with a GREAT chin.
    Nobody is knocking him out in the foreseeable future, so that means nobody is beating him – not a chance in hell of getting a decision against him

    At least GGG still has his belts and is still the true middleweight champion of the world.

    Anyone know how all the RING staff scored the fight?

    • A F

      The three on the post fight show on Facebook all had GGG edging it

    • FLOMATARD

      If they scored it as GGG win. Well they have a memo from Oscar

    • Mauro Hermida

      Ggg really spent most of that fight touching him up instead of throwing the heat.. Canelo was lucky in that regard.

      • Smootchie

        Ggg wasn’t willing to pay the price for letting his punches go. That was smart strategy by GGG.

  • wrecksracer

    Ring Magazine is in full “Damage Control” here. It was a close fight, but one judge was clearly paid for. Looking at a lot of Canelo’s past scorecards, there seems to always be one lopsided judge’s card. It’s tough to win a decision against a guy who already has one judge’s scorecard in the bank. The only bright side here is that GGG didn’t lose his titles. Is the Mexican community still behind Canelo? That was the least Mexican performance I’ve seen from a Mexican in quite awhile.

    • Brave_Lee_Flea

      “Is the Mexican community still behind Canelo?”

      I’m sure they are – but even they booed Adelaide’s scorecard.

  • Left Hook2

    Don’t just go to a message board and bitch. email nsac at [email protected]
    Not Ratners email, but the contact in the state web page. Fill up that mailbox with your outrage…or nothing has a chance of being changed!!

    • Dee Money

      My man, I may steal this and share with all I know. Please keep posting this wherever you can.

      I’d also like to add Golden Boy’s contact numbers are readily available online….just saying

      • Left Hook2

        Steal away. I sent an email this morning and will try to continue until I get a response. These guys risk too much to get screwed by judges…via corruption, incompetence, or bad day. Would a Wal Mart cashier keep his/her job if it was performed that poorly that often?

  • Left Hook2

    More punches landed…GGG. Rounds Alvarez landed more punches…ONE. Rounds Alvarez forced the action…NONE. I am merely thankful for GGGs sake it was just a draw…

  • Nixtradamus

    No, it wasn’t an “excellent fight”. It was an ok fight, far less than anyone could have reasonably expected from these fighters. Canelo won maybe 3 or 4 rounds and should have lost a clear decision to Golovkin. Glad I didn’t pay for this farce.

    • Left Hook2

      was not hagler hearts for sure!!

  • Michel Desgrottes

    Mandatories….

    Fuck a rematch, let Charlo or Sergei get a shot at their mandatories with GGG, no need to halt this division and wait till may to run it back, if you’re a unified champ keep defending your titles, there’s other men next in line, and I feel the same way about anyone who wants to be unified, past or present, Crawford whoever, keep defending your titles to the rightful people

    • Left Hook2

      Might be the first time I have agreed with you! ha!

    • Nixtradamus

      I agree 100000000%.

      Golovkin is 35 – he should concentrate on getting legacy-building fights. Canelo is a mediocre fighter protected by boxing’ corrupt system. F*kk Canelo. He lost last night the way he lost against Mayweather: he just tried to make it to the end.

      My money would be on Charlo if he fights GGG.

      • wrecksracer

        Tough fight. I wonder how badly GGG wants to keep those titles.

    • A F

      The rematch is much more important than settling an alphabet title. By all means GGG can defend if he doesn’t want to wait until May for the rematch. But a big payday goes up in smoke if he does and loses. As BS as the judging was, everybody involved is laughing all the way to the bank.

      • Michel Desgrottes

        Important to whom? Right is right and wrong is wrong, Sergei and Charlo are two men who did their job and deserve their shots, why should we make them wait? They deserve their title shot, if ggg doesn’t wanna fight them next, then give up the belt so he can fight CANELO in may, let other fighters get a shot at the titles

        • Joe Steed III

          If he given out rematches Danny Jacobs needs to be first in line otherwise he needs to pursue Billy Hoe or give Charlo his shot.

          • wrecksracer

            I bet there is going to be a bidding war to land BJS as an opponent. GGG wants that title. I bet Canelo wants that title. BJS wants Khan lol.

          • Joe Steed III

            He a whole clown! I’m done with Bjs

      • Left Hook2

        GGG owns the belts. If Canelo wants one, he needs to fight on GGGs terms or find another warm body.

    • wrecksracer

      Speaking of mandatories, Canelo doesn’t have a “real” middleweight title. He doesn’t have any mandatories to fight. I wouldn’t mind seeing him against Charlo or Jacobs…..but we’ll probably see him against BJS or Lemieux. GGG has a hard way to go to keep those titles. Canelo? Not so much.

  • Nixtradamus

    Charlo would make easy work of a very hittable GGG.

    • Dee Money

      I think you may be right. GGG is getting older and I think Charlo is the future of the MW division

    • Mauro Hermida

      What proof do you have? We don’t even know if he can take a clean shot from Ggg and we know Ggg would walk through him. Charlo beat a one legged fighter and now he is the man at middle?

      • Smootchie

        GGG was afraid to let loose on Alvarez with Alvarez laying on the ropes …inviting him in. Think about why that came about and then ask yourself why GGG was as conservative as he was until the 9th round

  • Dee Money

    “That conversation about Byrd’s inability to properly score a fight will carry on today and perhaps the next few days. But, ultimately, we’ll forget about it.”

    Another GBP spin, hoping that people will forget about the corruption. This wasnt Hagler-Leonard (a legit close fight that you could see either way) this was either blatant corruption or gross incompetence. GBP will try to spin it to make people forget, I hope that we don’t

  • wrecksracer

    I wonder how this fight did PPV-wise. Usually, I can’t park on my block when there is a big PPV on a Mexican Holiday. Plenty of parking last night.

  • Boomtown

    I don’t get why do you need to rob GGG of a victory, they would of had a rematch anyway as it makes financial sense to both.
    Just as boxing is hitting a high with worldwide attention again, as everyone is watching you fix a match.
    You stupid greedy people.

  • Jay

    I scored it 114-114 as well. Either way, I think Charlo and some of the other Junior Middleweights could come up and beat both of these guys…

  • Joe Ordanio

    I think we can all agree it was a damn good fight. I believe the case can be made for either fighter. Also, a draw was not unreasonable. Myself, being “old school”, had GGG winning 115-113. I think he displayed the more effective aggression in the fight and I also believe the defending champion should get the “benefit of the doubt” vote. The challenger should have to TAKE the title without much doubt. That said, both men fought a helluva fight and a rematch is definitely in order!

  • Larry Connor

    Canelo beat that boy face in!! Better ring generalship and Canelo will even easier the second fight

    Screw ggg aknowledge my country while you are in the ring ass kissing another country while in my country!!

    • Douglass Pinkard

      Showing class offends you, huh?! Your cursing a guy for showing class says it all.

      • Larry Connor

        No, him not aknowledging my Beloved 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Is no class. Fukk triple g. His run is just about over with anyway. He’s slow, no defense, easy to hit. He lost this fight and was lucky to get a draw. His end can’t come soon enough. #fukkggg

    • Charlie U.

      So was it OK for you when Mayweather came into the ring against Oscar dressed in the Mexican flag? And when did the U.S. become YOUR country? There’s over 300 million of us here. You’re just one more fool behind a computer screen.

  • Floridastorm

    60 more punches landed by GGG and Canelo backing up all night, and it’s considered a draw? Abel was right. GGG had to KO Canelo to get the win. Analyze all you want. But, those are the facts. Some fans live in La La Land.

    • Emeka Nnaji Jr.

      Canelo was backing up all night, but that compubox can be misleading. A lot of those shots they counted for triple G missed. Rewatch it brother. Canelo landed way more significant shots. That’s why he made it to the bell lol. GGG just put the pressure which he should get credit for.

    • Joe Steed III

      Ggg only landed 8 body shots according to compubox…. His aggression was effective more impart to him being bigger than Canelo and less to him actually landing shots. He essentially had the exact same fight with Danny. The difference is Ggg wasn’t able to walk Danny down they way he did Canelo (I scored that fight 8 to 4 for Danny, happy with the result of this one because it was very difficult to score). His jab is his most utilized and effective weapon. But he aint Larry Holmes or Lenox Lewis. He aint getting the top guys out of there with a jab.

  • AngelMorningstar

    This article is a joke posted by lackeys. You absolutely CANNOT make a case for Canelo. If this “journalist” and I use that term extremely loosely had ANY integrity he’d admit Canelo lost.
    What happened last night was yet another black eye for boxing and another reason why so many fans have stopped watching it.
    GGG was robbed and we all know it and that’s the only article that should be published. Byrd should have her licence pulled and she should be criminally investiged because we all know she took a payoff to give that atrocity of a scoreboard.

    • Lee McGuire

      Byrd is just the fall guy. What should be investigated is the shady connections between the judges and the promoters. It’s like college sports. They have “boosters” pay off the athletes and their families, while the head coach and universities can claim “they knew nothing about it!”

  • Orca

    Way to go Michael Montero in the post fight presser. Kept pressing a very important issue. And yes Michael, your press pass will surely be lost in the post for the rematch 🙂 I salute you.

    • PJ_Almighty42

      What happened?

      • Dee Money

        He pressed everyone on the Byrd card, and didn’t let them off the hook. Called all the other media cowards for not pressing on it.

        • ceylon mooney

          WOW. thats the real shit.

  • Lee McGuire

    But “ultimately, we’ll forget about it.” ??? WTF?! This article is just another Golden Boy spin job. That’s what’s wrong with boxing, not like it hasn’t been like that from the start (at least when the mob ran things, we knew they were criminals. Now those who run boxing are legitimate businessmen): We accept the corruption as just part of the sport and business, and the promoters and network will just blame Adalaide Byrd and tell us to move on. She is just a fall guy. The obvious problem is the PROMOTERS AND NETWORKS who make money shilling the fans who pay big money to see fair sport and the highest level of competition. Yeah, Golden Boy, we’ll just “forget about it” and you’ll find a different corrupt judge to call the next fight and really make sure Golovkin has no chance to win a decision in Vegas. Utter bullshit.

    • RayK

      yeah. It’s just not good enough to say that we’ll forget. It’s why people were worried in the first place.

      • Lee McGuire

        Nothing will change. If I was GGG, unless I was hard up for money, I’d just move on and forget any rematch, unless it’s in Kazakhstan.

        • Mike Prado

          Or Big Bear.

  • learnmore

    Whats next, I would prefer if GGG have that fight vs BJS for all the 4 titles. Because I reckon there is a possibilty BJS & Warren will over price themselves that fight probably wont happen. My next option is for GGG to defend his titles vs someone else like Derevychenko,Jermall Charlo or Jacobs rematch. Have not mention Canelo rematch, watching the post press conference I just got this feeling Canelo, Oscar & Team Canelo are not interested in a rematch next. Just a feeling. Canelo has choices Cotto, Lemieux or anyone he wants, he is the cash cow

  • Smootchie

    Watch the fight with the sound off. Canelo neutralized most of GGG offense and landed the most effective punches. It was a very close fight but in the end if anybody is going to get the nenefit of the doubt on the close rounds Canelo wins 7 to 5 and GG gets a draw if he is given the same leeway. If there is a rematch Alvarez will keep it in the middle of the ring and smoke GGG body early while ripping upper cuts and overhand rights to keep him guessing. Alvarez will probably K.O GGG in the rematch.

    GGG is too slow for Alvarez and the only thing that kept him in the fight was lack of activity on Alvarez’s part

    • Dee Money

      I watched it at a casino full of Canelo fans where the only sound I could hear was them yelling. GGG outlanded Canelo and forced him to the ropes most of the fight.

      Canelo didn’t neutralize him, but was clearly (by a significant margin) outlanded in the majority of the rounds. He went to the ropes and GGG went to work

      • Smootchie

        If GGG was oulanding Canelo with big shots…why did Canelo not have a mark on his face and GGG clearly looked like he had repeatedly tasted leather? All GGG landed was jabs….Canelo would lay on the ropes waiting to counter but GGG wouldn’t let loose…he knew better

        • wadabs

          Canelo didn’t have marks on his face, as Oscar dela Hoya took him to take shower first, dress up, and applied facial foundation make-up before showing up at the post-fight interview, Oscar is best at it, applying make-up.

        • Dee Money

          Not everyone’s skin react the same way to punches. If the way your skin reacted to punches determined the winner there would be no need for judges. Just look at their faces, but that would be asinine

          • Smootchie

            Oh yea….GGG who eats punches for breakfast and never cuts or wobbles….in this ONE particular fight he looks the worse for wear vs his opponent….that line of reasoning is willfully asinine.

            Biggest reason Canelo was unmarked against GGG is what? GGG has powder puff hands all of a sudden ….the divisions hardest hitter…the breaker of faces suddenly can’t even bruise his opponent? Wait…I know…Alvarez has super healing powers granted to him by Delahoya? Lol…gtfo here with that asinine stuff

          • Dee Money

            He looked worse than Brook following that fight, but Brook had a broken face.

            He just looks like that when he gets hit a few times.

          • Smootchie

            Alvarez didn’t even have a chapped lip…as far as compubox goes, GGG landed just about as many power shots as Alvarez. Considering GGG’s power….something doesn’t add up. Alvarez has looked more beat up after a fight against light punching Mayweather

    • Mike Prado

      Consider Canelo’s fierce display of pride, the chip on his shoulder, “luck is for the mediocre, my friend,” all of that leading up to the fight. Now…

      Did you consider WHY there was a lack of activity on Alvarez’s part? Do you really think he CHOSE not to engage more, with the world watching him?

      • wadabs

        alvarez looked scared, but tried not to show it.

  • Jim Parkinson

    Jesus Christ, boxing fans are the worst.

    • FLOMATARD

      Wrong site jimmy. Jesus H Christ. GTFOH.

      • Mauro Hermida

        I find it funny that the usual mayweather nutbag holders on this site are the only ones believing Canelo won. Ok ok 95 percent.

        • FLOMATARD

          Jimmy is one of a kind. He looks GGG tho. Half asian half something, but he got severe uncurable douchebag ailment.

      • Jim Parkinson

        Thanks for proving my point.

        • FLOMATARD

          Well done jimmy… now take Adalaide Byrd into dinner date. She’s got $$$

          • Jim Parkinson

            I sure will! Right after you “take into” English class.

            And I really hope this response gets to you before you kill yourself over GGG’s blemished record.

          • FLOMATARD

            full metal jacket. me love you long time. me sucky sucky

          • Jim Parkinson

            So now you’re reading the texts your mother sent to me? You REALLY need a new hobby, little guy.

          • FLOMATARD

            Hows your triple date with CJ Ross and Adelaide Byrd??

          • Jim Parkinson

            It’s going really well! How’s your date with — ahhh you’ve never been on a date.

  • William Bjerkevik

    Adalaide Byrd is worse than cancer

  • Wales1

    Disgusting

  • Cowa Bunga

    I think Golovkin will knock out or TKO Canelo if they fight again. The reason I think that is that GGG will pressure Canelo from the first round on. I think GGG was very careful the first 3 rounds. These fighters know each other now and need no “feeling out” rounds. GGG knows he can take Canelo’s best shot. I thought GGG hurt Canelo a few times and also Canelo was fatigued and took some rounds off. I might say I like both fighters so I hope I am saying this objectively. Or sort of anyway.

    • Dee Money

      My only concern is age, nobody beats father time and GGG is on the backside of his career

  • Ana Carolina Andrade Fisch-Tho

    Why does medias keep focusing on preventing judges who did bad scoring from judging again. Suggest you instead start focusing on the root causes behind bad judges which are corrupt promoters like Oscar de la Hoya . Certain he is involved some how just like with the Alvarez / Mayweather fight that ended with a MD.

  • Zack Stout II

    Try this everyone. Turn the sound down and just watch the fight. Also think about perception and the reputation GGG has.
    Without listening to Lampley falsely interpret coming forward with effective aggression, watch how many times Canelo actually gets hit. Also look at their faces. Canelo looked like he’d been in a slap fight and GGG looked like he’d been hit repeatedly with a night stick. If GGG landed as often as they said he did, Canelo would be in the hospital today.
    Another thing. If coming forward is the only criteria for effective aggression then Money Mayweather would have rarely won a fight. He won with ring generalship and that’s what I (surprisingly) saw from Canelo last night.

    • Dee Money

      I watched it without the sound live, had GGG up. Canelo doesnt get credit for backing up to the ropes and getting hit- thats not ring generalship.

      Your mayweather analogy is mistaken, mayweather tended to outland his opponents.

      • Julio

        Correct. Canelo never took command of the fight at any given moment. He was just disciplined enough, and that enabled him to be competitive, not to dictate.

  • monsterUcreated

    118-111 Canelo

    Very reasonable. GGG lost to Jacobs, too.

    • FLOMATARD

      Do you believe Lara beat Canelo?

      • monsterUcreated

        117-111

      • monsterUcreated

        He handled Canelo. I had it 117-111 Lara

        • FLOMATARD

          See? you got eyes.. Now do you believe GGG bit Canelo?

          • monsterUcreated

            No. Close fight. I gave 4-5 clear rounds to Canelo and another 4-5 close ones. 118-111 Canelo but I could see much closer cards.

            Golovkin lost this one, not as bad as he lost against Jacobs though.

  • Dee Money

    “Nobody is saying Triple G got robbed.”- Bernard Hopkins

    Man GBP can’t get out of their way on this thing, their best bet would just be to keep quiet and let it pass. By making this comment (when it is clear as day you are hearing people decry it as a robbery) Hopkins comes off as more of a liar. They’ve taken one of the sharpest boxing minds of our time (B-Hop) and transformed him into a shill.

  • Boxfan

    A new form of delusion is setting in: after the atrocious 118-110 card, now everyone seems to think a draw or a 115-113 card for Canelo is reasonable. That’s preposterous. There is no reasonable way to give Canelo six rounds of that fight. He got pushed around and beat up all night.

    Ask yourself this: outside of rounds 2-3 and 11, who would you rather have been at the end of every other round save perhaps 12?

    The answer is GGG.

  • Pineappleman

    good fight, in my view GGG won 8 out of 12 rds. re-watched it and still GGG with a single round advantage. 114-114 is acceptable. but 118-110? c’mon! rematch at Mayo de cinco, Canelo will win that for sure. age is something that is hard to beat.

  • wadabs

    Rather than a GGG vs Canelo fixed rematch, why not put Oscar dela Joya in the ring instead ? So the fans are vindicated.

  • wadabs

    And give Canelo his win against Bernard Hopkins in the ring !

  • wadabs

    These 2, dela Joya and Hopkins messed up Canelo’s head anyway.

  • Brave_Lee_Flea

    It’s not true to say that Byrd’s “scorecard that really didn’t have a bearing on the result”.

    Once you accept that her scoring of the fight is so bizarre that it can only be either incompetence or corruption (and there’s really no other explanation) then you also realise that had there been a different judge the result would very likely have been different.

    In any case, even if you feel that a draw is a fair result it still isn’t ok to sweep the way it was arrived at under the carpet.

  • ozzy

    No doubt those on this website who can’t see that this was a clear win for GGG are the same dullards and sheep who couldn’t see that Andre Ward was given carte blanche to do what the fuck he wanted in both fights with Kovalev. Well, to start with let me remind everyone that you can win rounds by fighting on the back foot but you must out-score the guy fighting on the front foot. It is so clear that this was NOT done by Canelo in enough of the rounds to produce a win, or even a draw – he simply didn’t work hard enough. After reading the reporting on this website I re-watched the fight and I’m perfectly happy with my claim that GGG won by at least 3 rounds – I suggest those who feel Canelo deserved a draw, or even a win, do the same – although I know it would be pointless for Canelo fans and anyone who is anti-GGG .
    BTW I’m sure the problems with refereeing and judging in the US will affect AJ’s decision on whether to fight in the US.

    Unless Canelo agrees to fight the rematch away from the US/Mexico, I’m hoping that GGG forgets about Canelo and lets GBP go back into obscurity. Instead I’d like him to become the undisputed champ by fighting Billy Joe Saunders in the UK. Also as GGG is now 35, and the UK is very strong in the super middleweight division, GGG could move up and never have to fight in the US again. He could make a lot of money fighting in the UK and leave the US swamp to those who like it and those that deny that it exists – cheerio wot wot wot.

  • Charley Burley

    This is why championship fights should be 15 rounds.

  • Golovkin won this fight. It was really close, but he won. 114-114 is a bad score, but forgivable. 118-110 is an unforgivable demonstration of either incompetence or corruption. Anyone who says differently is a clown. Byrd shouldn’t just be kicked out of boxing forever, she should be prosecuted. A financial forensic team should scrutinize her finances and see what was going on.

    “Oh, but she’s judged 115 big bouts?” My only response to that is: WHY???

  • Brandon Harmon

    Byrd is part of the issue. The judge that scored it 114-114, gave Canelo the 7th round which ROBBED GGG. Had it not been for that, he would have won the fight.