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Jun

THE BIG SWINDLE ON AUG. 26

Ugh…

Who signs off on s__t like this? Is Vince McMahon running the Nevada State Athletic Commission these days? Are we to expect Hulk Hogan to storm the ring mid fight and wallop referee Kenny Bayless with a chair before putting a sleeper on the ‘combatants’ using what’s left of his aging 24 inch pythons?

The only hope is that the collision of grossly self-inflated egos leads to a cataclysmic release of energy similar to a nuclear warhead, obliterating all in attendance (so stay away from ringside Doug because not even the Hulkster will be able to save you) and sending a surge through the TV of everyone who paid money towards Floyd’s new Bugatti.

Rant over, enjoy Kovalev v Ward 2! – Mitch Menendez

I will (especially if what I think will happen comes to fruition).

Not to worry if the clash of mega-egos on Aug. 26 and all the d-bags it attracts to Las Vegas creates too much fool energy for this reality to handle the entire arena goes StuporNova – I will be safe and sound at StubHub Center in Carson, California for the Miguel Cotto-Yoshihiro Kamegai card. I will not order and DVR Mayweather-McGregor.

I’ve never seen a Conor McGregor fight and I’m not going to make this Bizarro World exhibition my first. It’s been at least 15 years since I’ve been a Floyd Mayweather Jr. When he supposedly retired after the Andre Berto fight, I washed my hands of that dude (and his goofball diehard supporters). 

Who signs off on s__t like this? People who work for a city/state that is desperate for money, and are loyal to Mayweather and the UFC because of the past business those entities brought to The Strip.

Is Vince McMahon running the Nevada State Athletic Commission these days? I think Mr. McMahon would do a better job.

Are we to expect Hulk Hogan to storm the ring mid fight and wallop referee Kenny Bayliss with a chair before putting a sleeper on the ‘combatants’ using what’s left of his aging 24 inch pythons? I wouldn’t mind seeing that.

 

WARD VS. KOVALEV

Dear Dougie,

I hope this email finds you well. I am super excited for Saturday night, not just the main event but also Guillermo Rigondeaux (you playfully jabbed me about this) and Dmitry Bivol. Three questions:

  1. I too thought Sergey Kovalev narrowly won the first fight but I am picking Andre Ward this time around. What is your prediction?
  2. It seems Ward has won the mental war prior to the fight which I think is important when two fighters are so evenly matched. Do you agree?
  3. Given Ward’s best strategy is probably in-fighting and tie-up Kovalev I am not expecting a barn burner, in fact I think it could be less action than the first fight. What are your thoughts on the pace of the fight?

I could care less about Floyd-McGregor. It is a joke. That being said I really think they are sticking it to Canelo-GGG. Hardcore fans will for sure pay for Canelo-GGG but the casual fan may go with Floyd especially given it is the first fight on the calendar between the two and 175 plus for two fights is a lot to shell out within three weeks. I think GGG-Canelo numbers suffer because of this.

Thanks for the mailbag.

All the best. – Aaron (Your friendly and now slightly satisfied not whining that much boxing fan in Miami)

You might be right about Mayweather-McGregor “stealing” casual fans from the Canelo Alvarez-Gennady Golovkin pay-per-view event, but my hunch is that the main folks who buy the Aug. 26 PPV are diehard McGregor fans who want to see their hero smash Mayweather and hard-up Floyd-huggers, who haven’t had anyone to jock-ride since September 2015 and are desperate to gloat at obnoxious MMA heads. Beyond those two extreme (but populous and dedicated groups), there will be a “casual” contingent that buys into the mainstream hype created by the sideshow nature of this matchup. However, these folks may not even be general sports fans; they might just be millennial TMZ junkies in search of a freak-show fix – and these folks are not the types who would have even considered purchasing the Canelo-GGG fight.

Also, keep this in mind. The mainstream sports media is going to cover Mayweather-McGregor ad nauseum, but they’re also going to rip it every step of the way and warn folks that the actual “fight” will most likely be a boring flop that makes Mayweather-Pacquiao look like Hagler-Hearns. The general sports fans and casual boxing observers that ignore this warning and buy the PPV will feel like absolute morons for not knowing better. And significant portion of these suckers are going to pay attention when the same mainstream sports media opinion leaders, such as ESPN/HBO’s Max Kellerman, tell them (repeatedly during the three weeks that follow #MayMac) that Canelo-GGG is a REAL fight and a LEGIT mega-event that’s worth getting excited about. Some of these “casual” folks might buy the Sept. 16 PPV just to set things right with themselves (and make amends, so to speak, with the spirit of honest sports competition).

I too thought Sergey Kovalev narrowly won the first fight but I am picking Andre Ward this time around. I thought Kovalev won wide decision on first view, and a very clear and comfortable decision on second viewing.

What is your prediction? Kovalev by close but clear decision.

It seems Ward has won the mental war prior to the fight which I think is important when two fighters are so evenly matched. Do you agree? No, I don’t, because I don’t think Ward has gotten into Kovalev’s head as much as he’s gotten into his own head and into the heads of some media members and most of his wishful-thinking fans.

Given Ward’s best strategy is probably in-fighting and tie-up Kovalev I am not expecting a barn burner, in fact I think it could be less action than the first fight. Man, that sucks if that’s the case.

What are your thoughts on the pace of the fight? I think it will start out about the same as the first fight – as both light heavyweights are experienced, mature, world-class boxers that aren’t going to do anything crazy in the early rounds – but I expect both fighters to pick up the pace more over the second half of the bout than they did back in November. Ward thinks Kovalev has stamina problems, so he’s going to try and take advantage of that perceived weakness, and Krusher believes that he’s better-trained for this fight and will look to prove it by upping his punch output down the stretch.

If this happens I think we will get a slightly better – hopefully more dramatic – fight than we got the first time.

 

A CHALLENGE

Dear Mr. Fischer,

This will be my briefest mailbag submission yet. I would like to challenge you to write exclusively about legitimate boxing matches over the next 72 days (71 at publication).

To that end, I’ll ask you about the most credible match taking place 72 days from now: What do you think of Miguel Cotto’s chances against Yoshihiro Kamegai on August 26?

I hope this finds you and your family well, and I send the very best. Thank you again for what you do for the sport and for the edification of your readers. Very Respectfully. – John

Thanks for the kind words and the sincere request, John. I don’t know if it’s possible for me not to discuss Mayweather-McGregor at all with mailbag readers who have questions, comments or rants about the mega-money-grab, but I can assure you that I won’t allow it to dominate this column/forum. There’s only so much that can be said or written about it if you see it for what it really is (and it’s pretty much already been uttered by most hardcore boxing fans on social media and more than a few members of the media). I don’t have any special insight on the fight or enough passion for the event to piggyback much on what’s already out there.

Photo by Tom Hogan – Hoganphotos/Golden Boy Promotions

Regarding Cotto-Kamegai, I think the future hall of famer should be a very strong favorite against the Japanese gatekeeper if he elects to box a disciplined fight. Kamegai’s never been stopped but I think Cotto has the power and punch-accuracy to be first to score a KO against the hardnosed scrapper. However, if Cotto tries to take Kamegai out, he could be sucked into the kind of fight that would favor the fresher, naturally bigger and more active fighter. And given the wear and tear on Cotto’s body, plus his inactivity (he hasn’t fought since the Canelo fight), I don’t think it will take a great fighter or a herculean effort to push the veteran over the proverbial ledge.

By the way, although I have the utmost respect for Cotto and look forward to the day when I can put a checkmark by his name on an International Boxing Hall of Fame ballot, I’ll pulling for Kamegai on Aug. 26. He’s a genuine sweetheart who always gives 100%, I’m a sucker for gatekeepers, and the only way he can win is if we’re treated to a typical StubHub Center slugfest. So, you know… #WarKamegai!

 

WILL THE REMATCH BE ANY DIFFERENT?

Well the year has started very strong and with plenty of promise and then this s__tshow gets signed. Can’t help but feel the announcement of GGG-Canelo made them move quickly and do it before that fight. I’m a cynic but You Know Who can’t take anybody or anything taking attention away from him. All I hope is that the hangover isn’t as bad as a certain event from 5/2/2015 and that it isn’t a precedent for other ridiculous events.

Anyway, onto real competition, I’m not a huge fan of re-matches unless A – first fight was a thriller or B – It was controversial and the wrong guy won. This is B. Ward didn’t come close to winning in my not-so-humble opinion. The minority that felt Ward did enough surely confused competitive with winning. He got dominated early, rallied somewhat and almost got back in the fight and then Kovalev outfight him in 2 of the last 3.

My questions are 1) How likely that we see a different type of fight? I really don’t know what Ward can do differently but getting that close to Krusher early usually means you’ve got to go through a few of those jabs and right hands. I see the fight starting in a similar fashion.

My second question is 2) Do you think it’s likely that Ward kind of does what Tim Bradley did in the Pacquaio rematch where he was clearly stung from the criticism of the scoring in fight I and fought uncharacteristically aggressively (vs. what he’d have typically fought Pacquaio) in that one or is he a little too smart for that?

Last question: Is it too much to ask for the ref to be fair and consistent and same for the judges?

Are you going to be in Vegas? Not excited about the 110-degree weather and the beer prices but had to be at this one. Cheers. – Chris Smith, Norwalk, CA

I will not be there, Chris, but if you see my partner in crime, Steve Kim, before or after the fight, grab a drink with him on my behalf (you’ll probably have to pay for it but I promise to get the next round at a future show).

It shouldn’t be too much to ask the officials of a major boxing championship bout to be fair and consistent, but you and I both know that we are doing just that. There’s been at least 30 high-profile controversial decisions in Las Vegas since I’ve covered the sport (and probably 50 or 60 since I’ve been following boxing). It is what it is, but I’ve got high hopes for Tony Weeks (who I respect) and the veteran judges (Glenn Feldman, Dave Moretti and Steve Weisfeld) assigned to this rematch.

How likely that we see a different type of fight? Not very likely.

I really don’t know what Ward can do differently but getting that close to Krusher early usually means you’ve got to go through a few of those jabs and right hands. Yep, and he doesn’t want to get caught early again, so I expect him to be even more cautious than he was last November in the opening rounds.

I see the fight starting in a similar fashion. Same here (but without the knockdown), and maybe Ward tries to beat Kovalev to the jab from the outside.

Do you think it’s likely that Ward kind of does what Tim Bradley did in the Pacquaio rematch where he was clearly stung from the criticism of the scoring in fight I and fought uncharacteristically aggressively (vs. what he’d have typically fought Pacquaio) in that one or is he a little too smart for that? I don’t think Ward is as passionate a fighter as Bradley and he seems almost obsessed with controlling his emotions (and as much of the outside world as he can), so no, I don’t see him trying to overcompensate for anything on Saturday. If anything, I think Ward will be even more careful, but he’ll also be extra focused on making Kovalev pay for any mistakes. That’s why he and his team have tried to hard to piss off the Russian. They’re hoping that an angry Kovalev will make more mistakes than usual.

I’m not a huge fan of re-matches unless A – first fight was a thriller or B – It was controversial and the wrong guy won. This is B. Ward didn’t come close to winning in my not-so-humble opinion. I agree.

The minority that felt Ward did enough surely confused competitive with winning. Agreed.

He got dominated early, rallied somewhat and almost got back in the fight and then Kovalev outfight him in 2 of the last 3. Agreed.

Can’t help but feel the announcement of GGG-Canelo made (Mayweather/UFC/Showtime) move quickly and do it before that fight. You’re probably right (and shame on them for announcing it the week of Ward-Kovalev II, effectively killing an already struggling promotion, instead of waiting until June 19), but I’m kind of glad Mayweather-McGregor is happening before Canelo-GGG. That way, we get it over with and then have three weeks to focus on a real boxing matchup and a legit mega-event.

I’m a cynic but You Know Who can’t take anybody or anything taking attention away from him. No s__t.

All I hope is that the hangover isn’t as bad as a certain event from 5/2/2015 and that it isn’t a precedent for other ridiculous events. No matter how awful Mayweather-McGregor turns out to be, the foul taste will be washed out of most hardcore boxing fans’ mouths with what HBO and Showtime are planning showcase on Sept. 9 (the 115-pound triple-header topped by the Sor Rungvisai-Gonzalez rematch and the Santa Cruz-Mares rematch or shared card). After Sept. 9, all the boxing talk in the world will center on Canelo-Golovkin, not Mayweather-McGregor.

 

CONOR MC-CHENKO WON’T BE BOXING

Dear Dougie,

I like watching the videos of McGregor’s movement training. It kind of reminds me of some Vasyl Lomachenko’s training videos for some reason. Other boxers have fought Mayweather using traditional (albeit very good) boxing skills. But McGregor will have other ideas. McGregor will not win a boxing match with Mayweather. But just because they are in a boxing ring, with boxing gloves on and abiding (maybe) to the Queensberry rules, does not necessarily mean that McGregor will be boxing. He’ll be fighting. Cheers. – Rich

Well, good luck to him. I have no doubt that McGregor is an exceptional combat athlete and competitor with his own unique fighting style (one that is very different from anything Mayweather has experienced), but there’s going to be a boxing referee – probably honorary TMT member Kenny Bayless –  in that ring making sure McGregor doesn’t freestyle too much and veer from the script, so to speak. 

 

IS RIGO IN TROUBLE?

Hey Doug,

I wanted to ask you if you think Moises Flores has a chance against Rigondeaux this Saturday. Rigo has not looked good lately against opponents like Amagasa and Francisco (though I guess he broke his last opponent’s jaw with one of the only punches he threw.)

I recall Rigo struggling with another pressure fighter like Flores on the undercard of Pacquaio-Margarito several years ago. Typically, the way you beat a pure, defensive counterpuncher is with relentless pressure and volume punching, so I think Flores has a decent shot at beating the ageing Cuban maestro.

Also, what are your favorite fights where the “less skilled” fighter overwhelmed the technician for the win? Mayorga-Forest and Tszyu-Phillips come to mind, (as well as Marciano vs Charles and Moore actually) but I was hoping for some sleepers from you.

Thanks as always for the hard work man. Try to keep your head above water through the McGregor-Mayweather s__t storm. – Jack

I don’t think “MayGregor” is going to be that bad, at least from where I’m sitting. I’m actually looking forward to largely ignoring it.

Mayorga-Forrest I and Phillips-Tszyu are great examples of the supposedly lesser-skilled/lesser-talented underdogs getting the better of the huge favorites (although I must point out that Cool Vince had very good technique and Ricardo, though wild and unorthodox, possessed decent ring generalship).

I think my all-time favorite “will-beats-skill” or rugged brawler-bests-supreme boxer matchup – which occurred WAY before my time – is Carmen Basilio’s split decision upset over Sugar Ray Robinson for the middleweight title in 1957. It was THE RING magazine’s Fight of the Year. (I also must point out that Basilio was a good boxer, just nowhere near the level of the prime Robinson, and he was a prohibitive underdog against even the aging version that he faced.)

Iran Barkley’s two victories over Thomas Hearns also come to mind. Check out the recently posted Best I Faced with The Blade if you haven’t already done so. The Bronx slugger was out-pointed by some excellent boxers in his day – including Michael Nunn and the obscenely underrated Sumbu Kalambay – but he had The Hitman’s number.

I recall Rigo struggling with another pressure fighter like Flores on the undercard of Pacquaio-Margarito several years ago. You’re thinking of Ricardo Cordoba, and though the Panamanian southpaw could be in barnburners (as he was with Bernard Dunne), I seem to remember him giving Rigo fits with his lateral movement in a rather stinky fight that the Cuban won by split decision.

Typically, the way you beat a pure, defensive counterpuncher is with relentless pressure and volume punching, so I think Flores has a decent shot at beating the ageing Cuban maestro. Rigo is getting long in the tooth and he’s been inactive (only fighting once in 2015 and last year), so he could get caught by a tall, rangy, heavy handed slugger like Flores (who is also well traveled), but I don’t think the Mexican will pull off the upset. Flores’ technique is a little sloppy. He lets his hands go, but he lops and wings a lot of his shots and he tends to square up in front of his opponent when he tries to tee off, so I think his brand of aggression will play right into Rigo’s fast, accurate (and deceptively powerful) counter punches. If Flores’ technique was sharper and he were a little bit faster, I’d give him more of a shot, but I expect Rigo to be ready for him.

 

RETURN OF THE FLOYD-HUGGERS

Doug,

Long time reader, love the mailbag….

I have just seen that the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Connor McGregor fight has just been confirmed and am not really looking forward to the bout personally, but am really looking forward to you going toe to toe with all the Floyd nut huggers out there that will be writing in professing that this will cement his legacy as TBE (hasn’t McGregor also lost a few?)!

I can’t foresee anything but a Floyd domination personally, as I tend to think it’s like putting Andy Murray up against the no. 1 squash champion. From the bits and pieces I’ve checked out of McGregor on YouTube he also seems to have this crouch-like stance which I think will be easy for Floyd to work out. Do you think McGregor could, or would try to adopt a more upright boxing stance in his camp to correct this in order to give him more of a chance, or is it far too late for this?

Anyway, I’ll keep an eye out for the result but won’t be doling out £30 to watch this exhibition fight.

One last thing, how do you rate Jack Caterall? I’ve been singing his praises for a long time now and think he’ll be a major player in the world scene before long (although he needs to be more active) and would like to hear your thoughts. All the best. – Matt, Woking, England

I like Catterall. I’ve been high on him for the past couple years, and I agree with his No. 6 rating in THE RING’s junior welterweight rankings. I think he’s a versatile southpaw boxer who can make for good fights when he decides to scrap. And I think he’ll be ready for a shot by the end of next year.

…am really looking forward to you going toe to toe with all the Floyd nut huggers out there that will be writing in professing that this will cement his legacy as TBE! Do you think even the most deranged “Leonard Wanna-be” out there will try to make McGregor out to be a legit threat to Mayweather? I know there’s a legion of TMT wingnuts who will defend the Aug. 26 PPV, buy it to support their demigod, and declare the event as a “mighty blow” to the “evil Axis powers” of Golden Boy/De La Hoya, HBO and GGG/K2 Promotions, but even those loony toon mush heads can’t beat their chest if Mayweather – the guy who made one’s record the first measuring stick for “greatness” – beats a fighter with an 0-0 ledger. Right?

RIGHT!? They can’t be THAT crazy, can they?!? Somebody tell me that they aren’t THAT f__king ridiculous. PLEASE!

I can’t foresee anything but a Floyd domination personally, as I tend to think it’s like putting Andy Murray up against the no. 1 squash champion. Of course! And we’re going to be inundated with talking heads and columnists using these types of sport analogies until Floyd and Conor get that silly mess over with.

From the bits and pieces I’ve checked out of McGregor on YouTube he also seems to have this crouch-like stance which I think will be easy for Floyd to work out. You don’t have to be Ray Arcel to figure that out.

Do you think McGregor could, or would try to adopt a more upright boxing stance in his camp to correct this in order to give him more of a chance, or is it far too late for this? It’s too late, and why bother? He’s fighting Mayweather because he’s going to make more money than all of his MMA earnings combined. He’s not doing it because he thinks he can win.

Anyway, I’ll keep an eye out for the result but won’t be doling out £30 to watch this exhibition fight. That’s all it is, an exhibition. If folks want to pay to see it that’s their prerogative.

 

ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE

 

Hey Dougie,

Everybody, well most people, are saying the Mayweather-McGregor fight is going to be a mismatch – this and that… you’re a self-professed comic book fanatic… Have you considered: we ARE living in an alternative universe – one that has Donald Trump as our president and McGregor actually lands his vaunted left on an old, inactive Mayweather… – Starmarc

Whatever drugs you’re taking, Starmarc, keep takin’ ‘em. You seem happy.

And you know what? If this is an alternative universe where an MMA fighter can take out a future first-ballot hall of fame boxer in a boxing match, I won’t consider it a Crisis on Infinite Earths. That’s Bizarro World that I can live on.

 

 

 

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  • Mitchell Nelms

    I can’t seem to get away from the shit show May/Gregor. They should do a 2 part fight, 12 rounds in the ring and 4 in the octagon 6 months later.

    Kovalev 9-11 round tko off a body shot.

    • ceylon mooney

      interesting prediction. thatd be frickin impressive.

      i cant commit to any outcome on this one.

      • Mitchell Nelms

        This is my prediction if he fights perfectly and does what he should. In a perfect world, this is how I see the outcome.

        • Stephen M

          I hope you are right but I have a gnawing feeling that Ward will win outright in this one

    • philoe bedoe

      I was thinking the same thing.
      But there’s no was Floyd is going to fight in an octagon………

  • Tony Nightstick

    Mayweather-McGregor: Ali-Inoki Part Deux.

    Can’t say I have much interest in Ward-Kovalev II, which I think Ward will take by razor-thin UD. Anyway, I hope so — anything to avoid Ward-Kovalev III.

  • Teddy Reynoso

    Another testimony to Muhammad Ali’s greatness was his refusal to seriously consider accepting the challenge of basketball superstar giants Wilt Chamberlain and if memory serves Lee Alcindor later known as Kareem Abdul Jabber to a boxing match. He fought Japanese wrestler Antonio Inoki but it was in an exhibition match where he stuck to boxing while Inoki stuck to wrestling. It was strictly exhibition for entertainment. Ali never considered giving Chamberlain and Alcindor the chance to humiliate themselves inside the ring with him. And the boxing fans and authorities back then had better senses to demand and pursue such a nonsense than fans and the Nevada State Athletic Commission officials have today. Woe to pro boxing!

    • Wade Wilson

      They nearly did do the Chamberlain fight and he went so far to approach Cus D’amato to train him. The story goes it was all set and all they needed was Chamberlain’s signature but when he came into the room Ali yelled “Timber!!” and that was the end of that. Ali was never above a show but he didn’t hide that it was anything but that!

    • AngelMorningstar

      Ali had his knees tore up by Aoki and said as much then even decades later still hurt. Wasn’t a exhibition to Aoki.

      • Wade Wilson

        That’s because Ali wouldn’t show up to rehearsals as he didn’t want to cheat the fans and Inoki was terrified so he stayed on his back kicking the whole time! It most certainly wasn’t a match, an exhibition, or entertaining!

  • RayK

    I hope GB and K2 go the extra mile promoting Canelo v GGG. Whatever that may be. Maybe produce some cheaper preview shows/tv spots for broadcasters apart from the quality stuff.
    It’s a pet hate of mine but half of Ward’s team and the RocNation guy keep pronouncing Krusher’s name as Kovalov..?KOVALOV?

    • Da True GOAT

      Sirgay Kovalov

      • Turner Wednesday

        Sir Gay Kovalov

    • Stephen M

      I’m pretty sure that none of us pronounces it as the Russians do.

      • RayK

        How about this..Gennady Golevkin. Try it. It was written on a giant poster behind him. As I say, a pet hate. I’m gonna go with Kovalev tomorrow night.

        • Stephen M

          Well, not to put too fine a point on it, here comes the fine point, writing is only ever an approximation of the sound of language. As an example, the name Romanov is also spelled Romanoff because the actual pronunciation is a mix of the two. Back to your regularly scheduled programming…

          • RayK

            I can’t and won’t argue with that!

      • Floridastorm

        GGG and Kovalev speak at least two languages each and probably a couple more considering where they are from. How many languages do you speak? At least I can understand both of these guys, when they speak English. It’s more than I can say about some Brits and Americans.

        • Stephen M

          I speak two, what’s your point?

    • Gilberto G

      Canelo should start speaking english, he has been living in california for a while he should have learn by now, but I gues his lazy trainers wont learn english either, he needs to change the people surrounding him, maybe bring american sparring/training partners for him to practice the language.

      • RayK

        Yes..-‘must try harder’-

  • Jorge

    I thought the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus had performed its last show? I was wrong, tickets are available for August 26th.

  • Teddy Reynoso

    Boxing fans everywhere let’s do boxing a great favor- ignore that travesty called Floyd vs McGregor!

  • Left Hook

    My hope is that the talking heads truly denounce the event of 8/26 as the one-sided farce that it is. Tell the people they are wasting there money and that there is truly not a snowball’s chance in hell that there is an upset here. Plus, no upside for a DQ, as there are stipulations in the contract that would take most of the mma guy’s purse away (and give to the boxer guy), should he use ANY mma moves. That is a downer.. Would the most recent Olympic gold medalist at welterweight, Daniyar Yeleussinov, have a chance at defeating the boxer in this event? No. So how in the world is any fool giving the mma guy a shot?

    • Stephen M

      Ok, I’ll try to answer: because they ARE fools?

  • Left Hook

    BTW…Tony Weeks has not penalized a fighter for excessive holding for at least the last 5 years. I stopped looking at Boxrec at that point. What that means is that ward will tie up ad nauseum with no fear of repercussion.

    • Orca

      Didn’t take you long to do your research, perhaps Main Events should have done the same. Weeks appointment wasn’t chance.

      • Left Hook

        Let me preface that I used only Boxrec and the comments provided. I am a nerd and actually looked up probably 10-15 refs over the past week. There were 2 that deducted a point for holding in that span. Laurence Cole (figeroa-burns), but none since, Michael Griffin (Klit-Jennings, none since). Hector Afu deducted a point in 2009 (Froch-Dirrell), and has not done it since. Refs deduct for low blows or hitting behind the head, but little else. I did happen upon a guy getting a point deducted for holding his opponent in a headlock and hitting him on top of the head. Professional noogie??

      • Left Hook

        Saw an article on the judges. Don’t know how scientific it is, but a good read. http://www.boxingnews24.com/2017/06/kovalev-ward-2-judges/
        With judges it is all about their preferences, as I have been unable to find anything confirming that get actual guidance from any of the sanctioning orgs.

  • Jorge

    Back to boxing.. I expect no changes in the Ward v Kovalev rematch, both inside the ring respect what the other can do too much to take any significant risks. The only thing I see different is that I don’t expect Andre Ward getting dropped again so it will be a close decision that will go either way.

    • Stephen M

      I’m kind of thinking that because Ward doesn’t get dropped, he gets to Kovalev’s body sooner and thus actually earns a decision.

  • maxx

    Excellent mailbag as always Doug, great opening post by Mitch Menendez, had me really cracking up.Kudos

    • TNT

      It was the perfect opening, wasn’t it? To think that in the near past the current president of the US shaved Vince McMahon Jr bald. SMH

      • maxx

        LOL, I saw it on BBC Newsnight, I also saw Trump jumping on top of Vince and punch his lights out lol.Kudos pal……BTW I believe it was Vince Snr if memory serves me correctly.

        • Rdb85

          no it was Vince Jr, Vince Snr has long passed about 11 months before the first Wrestlemania I think

          • maxx

            Sorry my mistake, I mixed up Shane and Vince.Kudos

      • mitch menendez

        Classic! I’d forgotten about that!

    • mitch menendez

      Thanks Maxx, a bit of fun, brought back some good WWF memories, just hope Doug didnt think I called him ugh!

      • maxx

        It was a great and hilarious post Mitch.Kudos pal

  • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

    Doug. If Connor was fighting Canelo, would your antipathy be so palpable? I very much doubt it. Much like the mismatch that was kahn vs Canelo, you would be ordered to toe the line and convince the masses why it was such a great fight.

    • Jody Hanna

      Canelo – Khan was a pathetic mismatch and Mayweather – McGregor is even more of a pathetic mismatch.

      • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

        Yet you watched khan vs canelo

        • Jody Hanna

          Without paying for it, and after the event. I only watched it because I don’t like Khan, and because there was guaranteed action while it lasted, also I’m a bit of a ghoul that likes seeing brutal knockouts. Watching your idol toy with a debutant whose boxing style seems to be based on the old bare knuckle fighters before James J Corbett introduced some style to the game isn’t my cup of tea thanks Ola, I hope you enjoy it.

          • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

            Oh I most definitely will my dude.

      • Gonzalo Gomez

        No comparison between the two fights., Mayweather – McGregor is such a farce. McGregor doesn’t beat Khan and I believe he doesn’t even beat a guy like Brandon Rios .

        • Floridastorm

          Of course it will be. McGregor is forced to fight exclusively in accordance with Boxing rules. Why don’t they use UFC wraps instead of 8 oz gloves. See how well Floyd would do.

        • REAL talk.

        • maxx

          Rios would murder McGregor.

          • Jorge

            Haha very much so

    • Easssyyyy R.O.O.! It’s Friday, Baby….pump the brakes a lil bit! What the fuck is “prevaricate”? And u just gone drop that on a Friday morning? I feel flames reading this one!

      P.s “ordered” might have been a bit much for my taste, but that’s just me!

    • FreeWilly

      TMT LONDON: You shouldnt have expected anything positive from Doug regarding Mayweather. The same Oscar who is criticizing this fight actually was prepared to have Canelo fight McGregor. May vs McGregor is a fight beyond just boxing or UFC. It is a fight meant to attract corssover appeal from the two entities and if anything, its good for boxing. I understand hardcore fans and Mayweather haters (in case you forget this site has been turned by Doug into a heaven for racists and May haters) feeling orange about it. That’s expected. Just because people don’t approve of it, doesn’t mean they have to preach a boycott and yet watched the money grab between Canelo and Chavez. Horn v Pacman is another useless fight but guess what, less is said about it. Sad thing is that, still the so loved boxers still do poorly on PPV.

      • Stephen M

        You sound like you need a hug, bad week?

      • Orca

        You’re comparing a cross-sport exhibition /event to fights contested by actual boxers with professional records. Yeah they are mismatches but they at least involved professional fighters. What have ppv figures to do with anything? Let’s get the greatest decathlete in the world and throw him in against Usain Bolt over 100m. There really is no difference. Sorry but Floyd should be embarrassed to have this listed on his record.

        • Jody Hanna

          It shouldn’t be on his record.

        • FreeWilly

          Why should he? Damn, all of you complaining here would love to get a bonus at the end of the year or even even win lottery. May has paid his due; first and foremost, none would turn easy money away. I do fuckingggg 9-5 only because that’s my option in life. Send me free money and see if ill take the high road. All them motherfuckers acting like they morally tuned and yet would not hesitate to take the 13th check or bonus or additional pay. The same shit May and McGregor are doing. Either you shut up or watch the fight.

          • Stephen M

            All of us have to work and deliver value for money, so we can complain…

      • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

        PREEEAAACHHH! I actually forgot about pac. I’m gonna go on record and say it now, pac is still top 3 at 147lb.

      • “It is a fight meant to attract corssover appeal from the two entities and if anything, its good for boxing.” Good Lord, pull your head out of your ass. It’s not even a fight. It’s just Floyd and Conor getting idiots to give them money. And that’s not against the law, so more power to them.

      • Stephen M

        “I sparred with McGregor, off season, coming from a holiday, out of shape and basically playing and having fun, and being me. Not even focused, not even in camp, out of shape,” Van Heerden told TMZ. “I’m reading all these comments saying Floyd will have his hands full landing on Conor because of his footwork, skills and movement. I’m no Mayweather, out of camp, and out of shape — and we landed at will.

        “It’s crazy to think that people can actually compare a fighter that’s 0-0 in a boxing ring, to a legend that’s 49-0. If you look at his resume, he fought the best of the best in the world.”

        He doesn’t think Conor will be able to land well, but even if he does, Van Heerden doesn’t think it would be enough.

    • Reggie Woodard

      What is Kovalev so angry about? Storming out of the press conference… The WAR hat is cool(ode to the Marvelous One) but I just don’t understand all the anger.

      • Orca

        Liked the hat too. I think he’s a tad angry yeah.

        • Reggie Woodard

          The weigh-in will probably be extremely tense. Looking forward to the staredown…

      • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

        Lol I honestly think he had a Kevin keegan moment (soccer reference)

        • Reggie Woodard

          I’m guessing Kevin Keegan is a footballer? I’ll have to look him up….

          • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yenzdq5g6o

            His team was 10 points clear of Manchester UTD in the league.

            Then Manchester Utds legendary manager Sir Alex Ferguson utilised mind games lol UTD ended up winning the league.

          • Reggie Woodard

            He was serious man lol…

      • If you and your family/team had to deal with Roc Nation’s BS for weeks, my guess is you’d probably be a bit surly too…

        • Reggie Woodard

          Absolutely. Another poster replied and mentioned the purse disparity(which I was unaware of at the time). In hindsight, Krusher had plenty to be upset about.

      • Floridastorm

        The former light heavyweight champion is getting around $1 million while Ward is getting $6.5 million. Wouldn’t you be a bit upset if you were Kovalev? Also in the first fight all of the judges and the Ref were American. Cards stacked against a Russian? Remember, Kovalev was the undefeated champion. However, he fought Ward in Ward’s home country and with all American judges. What if they had fought in Russia. like it should have been, with all Russian judges? However, anger in the ring is never advised. You use up so much energy with anger that it debilitates you in the actual fight.

        • Reggie Woodard

          I’d be extremely upset about the disparity in purses as well. When I first posed the question, I wasn’t aware of the purses. I had mentioned before that too much tension in the ring is an energy sapper and I was fearful of this being the case with Krusher.

    • TNT

      As a fan of both fighters I look forward to this rematch. Ward is a class act; not so much Kova–there is no justifying his remarks.

      • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

        PREEEAAACHHH! Kov has been lacking decorum leading up to this. But I have always been a fan of him too. Especially when he beat Nathan Clev

    • Orca

      People didn’t just decide to dislike Ward. They have their reasons. A few nice words at a press conference won’t change that. The way Ward acted after the first fight pissed me off. The way Ward fights pisses me off. The things Ward says and his delusions of grandeur pisses me off. Don’t like the guy and hope he loses on Saturday night. Boxing is better off without him. From the perspective of the sport and the 175 division, it’s better if kov wins.

      • JV316

        delusions? gold medal, undefeated, super six champ, 2 weight class champ, #1 p4p….seems pretty grand to me

        • Orca

          It was more in relation to what he thinks he’s worth.

          • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

            When you go to work on a Monday and your employer says I’m deducting your wage by 10% would you be happy?

            Why is that the media and those in the ivory towers able to make the proletariat fight amongst each other.

            Here is a paragraph from a piece by Paul Magno:

            “Ward, who had already riled up the lynch mob for hinting at the need for a professional prizefighter union, further enraged the prejudiced masses by fighting a public war against good ol’ boy Dan Goossen. Forget the reason behind the contractual dispute with Goossen (although it shouldn’t be forgotten that it was, by all accounts, not a push for more money via re-worked terms, as is the impression given by the less-than-friendly media), messing with the bossman’s contract was an unforgivable act in the eyes of many”.

            Now if this was at your place of work, who would you be supporting????

          • Charlie U.

            I agree with you here, Ola. Ward has never ducked anybody but he does demand to get what he’s worth. People expect these guys to be gladiators and just go out and entertain us. They forget that they do this to earn a living.

          • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

            PREEEEAAACHH! To earn a living!!!

          • JV316

            i’m not sure why many point to ggg being a jordan brand spokesman as a huge feather in his cap but nobody ever mentions that ward has earned the same distinction. he must be worth something. the fact is there is a subset of tastemakers who think ward is plenty valuable, whether it’s air jordan or jay-z or current/former fighters and trainers…but to each his own i guess, i almost always enjoy your posts orca…almost 🙂

          • Stephen M

            I would think that he has delusions about his appeal to fans.

      • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

        OK. Please list the reasons why you personally hate Andre Ward.

        Not paraphrasing the words of journalists. Why do you dislike him?

        • Orca

          I kinda just did. Well, at least some of the reasons. He’s an asshole, I don’t like his style, he’s a dirty fighter, his fights are boring, he thinks he’s worth crossover money when he doesn’t even put the work in and he has to have all the balls in his court or he won’t play. Oh, and his nickname makes me cringe 🙂 Why do you care?

          • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

            Lol like I thought. No reason at all.

            He’s an asshole because you don’t like his style of fighting. Might I ask how many Olympic gold medals you have? World championship belts maybe?

            He doesn’t put the work in to be a crossover star. So putting your life on the line when you enter that ring and all the training that comes with it is not enough? You want him to be more like Willie Beamen?

            He wants all.the balls in his court. Now I could understand if 99% of his fights in America were dubious victories but they are not. They are near shutouts.

            OK so you’re atheist and don’t like his moniker? Because you think he thinks he’s black jesus…….

            Nope.not one valid reason.

          • Orca

            Your reply leaves me regretting replying to your post. Take it easy.

          • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

            It’s OK. I accept both your defeat and veiled contrition.

    • IanF69

      Sorry, ….I never read the instructions properly…so instead of being piss bored for 89 secs…I was piss bored for the full 5mins and 44 secs….Shit.

    • Orca

      I’ll see your video of Ward and raise you this video.

      https://youtu.be/i1SVvyx8sR0

      • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

        So.if I find an illegal tactic used by any boxers, will that also qualify for your dislike?

    • If Canelo were fighting Conor — the entire boxing world would lose it’s collective shit, and I’d rip him along with everyone else. The fact that we expect this sideshow garbage from Mayweather, the supposed TBE, speaks volumes about the man. It’s ridiculous that you’d even try to defend May-Mac by dissing the Canelo-Khan matchup. Hey goofball, Khan wasn’t 0-0 in boxing. He’s not coming from another sport.

      • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

        Lol doug…..Do you expect me to sit here and believe that you who works for the RING MAGAZINE, a magazine that is currently owned by Oscar De La Hoya’s Golden Boy Enterprises, which acquired it in 2007. You expect me to believe that you wouldn’t be TOLD to toe the line lol

        Douglas there is more chance of the editor of the Sun newspaper criticising Rupert Murdocheck than there is you criticising Oscars golden boy.

        Oh and Who you calling goof ball? (Wesley snipes roundhouse kick)

      • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

        Do you really want to know the real irony of may vs Mac.

        The ring magazine perpetuated all of it. The moment you gave a UFC fighter in ronda rousy the forum to criticise the best Boxer of my generation you made this happen.

        The moment the ring magazine put on it’s front cover a person from, how did you say it Doug, “ANOTHER SPORT”. You made this happen.

        The moment Bob Arum offered Manny Pacquiao, his best fighter, and Oscar suggested Canelo Alvarez, his best fighter to fight Mac when him and mayweather was all hyperbole, They made it happen.

        So when fans of yours are critiquing both may and Mac for.making this fight, it’s not them who they should be ‘blaming’, is it Doug.

  • Jody Hanna

    I hope I’m wrong but I expect the Ward – Kovalev rematch to be just as much of a shitty mess as the first fight, leading to another decision to get the fans arguing about, but without enough sustained action to warrant a rubber match. I won’t be able to watch it live as I’m in London for a Guns ‘n’ Roses concert, but don’t see that as a negative, if I want disappointment, I’ll check my bank balance.
    On the subject of bank balances, the Mayweather – McGregor exhibition ‘sports entertainment’ show is a sick joke and anyone stupid enough to pay for it deserves everything they get. It seems Idiocracy is finally coming true. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0fbdf7f7283e075d0519eecdec6a6c1c8812e7be5b38528557a74e136edfc175.png

    • Stephen M

      Thanks for that reference to your bank balance. I thought I was the only poor sod on here.

      • Jody Hanna

        I’m pretty sure that the people that work at my bank look at my accounts and think, “What the fuck is this person doing?”

    • Mauro Hermida

      Idiocracy was always true in the US, it just came to light when the orange sac was elected president.

    • Charlie U.

      Dude…G n’ R. Awesome.

  • I’m an unapologetic Money May boxing fan….but I’m not gonna buy it. I’m gonna watch it and enjoy it for what it is. What person wouldn’t come out of retirement and make a mega payday, for whipping the ass of a “badass” that’s been talkn shit, saying he wanted this fight? I’ll wait…..let’s continue. Now what really gets my potatoes to boiling, is the fact that the majority of commenters are saying “no. Won’t support it, bad for boxing, won’t talk about it” yada, yada, yada, but what’s gonna happen if Mcgregor lands the luckiest punch, in the history of throwing punches, and defeats Mayweather? What will the articles, comments, mailbags, morning sports shows, etc.. what will be the #1 topic of conversation? Mailbags 4 Ever/PBC 4 Life!

    • Jody Hanna

      It won’t happen.

      • Morning J.Hanna, I don’t believe it will either…….but what if it does? Will we still be so dismissive orrrrr, will we talk, discuss, create memes, for years to come?

        • Jody Hanna

          I’d love to see the obnoxious little shit get creamed, but Connor McGregor isn’t the man to do it.

  • DRE

    Good bag there Doug. Some points:
    1. As much as I always admired Manny Pacquiao I thought his upcoming fight with Mr. Horn was the most pointless event of the year. And then this Mayweather-McGregor thing came up.

    2. I still think that Ward deservedly won a hard fought decision the first time. But that’s yesterday’s discussion. I predict that Ward wins another tough fight but wins it more decisively this time. And if he does I’m not going to lie. I’ll be back on Monday with my bragging rights. But if Kovalev does win it then as much as I can’t stand the guy I’ll give him full credit.

    3. Loved the mention of the timeless Basilio-Robinson battle. Basilio was certainly not the supremely-skilled athlete and P4P king that Robinson was but he sure carved his own legacy. Five Fights Of The Year in a row.

    4. I’m definitely buying Ward-Kovalev 2. Rigo’s returning on the undercard. Yeah!

    • Julius Kent

      Lol. I think you got cheated on both fights. Boxing these days huh? Are you going to buy mayweather’s fight too?

  • Conrad

    Why has the rematch been promoted so badly? P4P 1 vs. P4P 2 and I barely heard anything till the start of this week. Awful job by the promoters, for a fight that “sells itself” well actually no, it doesn’t. The first one was shit

    • Jody Hanna

      Bravo

    • wrecksracer

      The first fight wasn’t promoted well either. Roc Nation and Main Events really don’t know how to promote a fight. Where is Don King when you need him?

  • Andre Jefferson

    fischer is never fair with Ward or Rigo, Kovalev can say all the racist things in the world, yet step and fetch it fischer still N hugs this man. Ward has been a model of consistency, showing class, yet this guy can seem to write anything positive about ward, totally biased dude

    • I have plenty of positive things to say about Ward, I’m just not a fan of his boxing style, passive aggressive attitude toward the media9 and fans), and cold personality. Show me where I gush about Kovalev and his surly personality. You’re the nut-hugger. I know so because in your view, anyone who thought Ward lost to Kovalev is a “hater” and a “racist.” You’re transparent.

  • TNT

    Dougie, Bayless is a full-fledged rank and file TMTster. There is nothing honorary about him.

    • True. I was trying to be nice to Kenny. I used to respect him as a ref.

      • Left Hook

        The problem is that refs literally almost never deduct for excessive holding. He is one of many who do not enforce the rules of the bout.

    • IanF69

      Bayless is as bad as Cortez……try beating Mayweather when he has one of those two watching out for him…….pair of pricks if you ask me.

      • Orca

        Hey Ian. Not sure if you already said but who you got in tonight’s fight? I think there could be a few surprises. I’ll go with Kov by decision though as I thought he won the first fight.

        • IanF69

          Alright M8…..Yea i hope your right ….but….shit i feel Ward has got his number now….unless Kov comes out to destroy Ward and power through him , I see a Ward UD all the way in a shitty holding,spoiling, shoulder rolling fucking bore fest..sorry….I thought Kov had done enough in the first fight for the draw and keep his belts…..Been watchin the build up all week and Kov is angry…in all my years of watching boxing ..angry never wins..For as much as I hate Ward’s style I gotta respect how calm he is during fights, he just never panics..for that reason I think he will just take it…Hope I’m wrong…Enjoy the fight m8 and give me pelters tomorrow if I’v called it wrong….Cheers Bro.

          • Orca

            I could easily see all that happening tonight. Just hope we see a fair and entertaining fight. If you’d asked me the day after the first fight who would win the rematch, I’d have picked Kovalev straight away. But it’s hard to not get swept along with the build up and start to doubt yourself. I agree that angry rarely wins but there are exceptions. Lennox Lewis was pretty angry before Rachman II but he channeled it into one of his best ever performances. I’m hoping for Kovalev to do the same.

          • IanF69

            I hear ya and hope your right….You’ll be watching the first fight on Sky Spts 1 as I type and it stills says Kov all the way to me…..but Kov is still in the Sates, still US judges and I just can’t see him winning….unless he knocks Ward out……Please yes.

  • Dee Money

    C’mon everybody knows that Mayweather V McGregor is gonna draw a lot of eyeballs (more than Canelo v GGG) most people would rather watch a trainwreck than a display of skill at the highest level.
    Remember the 1994 NBA Finals, Olajuwon v Ewing? Everyone wanted to watch OJ Simpson get driven around with a gun to his head instead. Heck, look at the ratings fake reality shows like ‘Housewives of Wherever” get; people usually would rather watch crap than skill. And just wait until all the orchestrated ‘near fights’ happen during the press tour.

    • Jody Hanna

      I’ll take the Kardashians over Mayweather – McGregor thanks.

      • Chris Stans

        They’re more aesthetically pleasing than anything “money may” has done in a boxing ring

  • Autosmell

    NO bag dawgs but Andre gonna whup up on Kov again. You see ones you beat up on some white boy you cant get that taste out of your mouth let me splain.

    Yall know Iran ‘the blade’ Bradley member him? He was in a slump he got beat by Duran and Nunn. Hell he got ko by Benn and he was posed to win! Anywayz you know why Benn over come the odds? Cuz he just got done pimp slappin Dewitt. So what do the Blade do? He turn round and skool that boy Van Horn. He got a new leash on life! All a sudden he outboxin Hearns and ko’in fools. He loved that taste so much he went up to heavy and whoop that mummy Coetzer. Dna.

  • AngelMorningstar

    I also don’t think Conor has a snow balls chance in hell. However if by some miricle he wins? Does what Canelo, Manny, Hatton, etc couldn’t?..
    Then it’s a bigger upset then Douglas over Tyson and quite frankly he’ll damn sure shake the world a hellva lot more then Ali did when he beat Liston.

    • Jody Hanna

      But it will never compare to when the Ultimate Warrior beat Hulk Hogan for the WWF Heavyweight
      Title.

      • Jorge

        Huge upset

      • philoe bedoe

        Wrestlemania 6, first time ever, title for title matchup.
        Now that’s what I call razzmatazz……….

    • D Johnson

      MMm no, Tyson was a 42 to 1 favorite over Douglas.

  • philoe bedoe

    Excellent mailbag again Doug.
    Can’t wait for Ward vs Kovalev 2.
    Ive watched the first fight about five or six times, and have looked to see how i could see Ward winning , and I can’t.
    So I’m going for Kovalev to get the result he should have got in the first fight.
    If MayGregor is on Sky sports or Boxnation I will record and watch it on a Sunday morning like I usually do with fights in the States.
    If it’s on Box office there’s no way I’m paying to sit up until 5 in the morning to watch a mismatch.
    I need my beauty sleep………..

  • Chris Stans
    • Stephen M

      Conor is really bad as a boxer. Really easy work for Floyd. It might be embarrassing.

      • Chris Stans

        I hope it’s embarrassing, McGregor fan base is toxic

  • Charlie U.

    Funny how many of the same people who criticized GGG’s competition are getting ready to throw fight parties for the Mayweather-Mcgregor money grab.

  • Floridastorm

    Since I already subscribe to HBO and Showtime I pretty much don’t like the idea of paying $60 to $70 on top of that for PPV. However, I will for the GGG-Canelo fight. As such, I am satisfied with the round by round streaming analysis on the Internet. Can’t remember where I got it last time. Can anyone advise what website is carrying the round by round? It’s not the live streaming that you have to pay the same amount for.

  • RayK

    Cold as ice Sergey.

  • J rock

    I think the Connor vs. Floyd fight is interesting as far as images are concerned. People who are paying for this , especially the MMA fans are looking to see a fight, not the sweet science. If Floyd boxes Connor as cautiously as he would a professional boxer and wins a boring 12 round decision, with Connor chasing him trying to make it a slugfest……Floyd will get booed out of the Arena. This could hurt boxing with Casual fans, because the self proclaimed GOAT of boxing, to the uneducated casual will look like a coward. And it looks bad to have a perceived coward as the best boxer of our generation. Casuals may look at the Canelo GGG fight as a waste of time, because they are going to say “Canelo?!?!…isn’t that the guy that coward Floyd beat? Why would I be interested in that fight?” I think Floyd for his own legacies sake needs to stop Connor, or at the very least beat him till his face is a bloody mask at decision time. Connor has nothing to lose…all he has to do is try to make Floyd fight, and he will get the respect from the crowd.

    • philoe bedoe

      Apart from the money, Floyd is in a no win situation……….

  • Abraham E. Hernández

    Gentlemem, tomorrow we will see who the RING p4p king really is. I hope you all enjoy it and we get a fair result.

    • TMT LONDON-DA REAL OLA ODUSINA

      PREEEEAAACHH!!!!!

  • Floridastorm

    As if the first fight officiating wasn’t enough we once again have a stacked deck in 3 American judges and an American Referee. How in the world did Kovalev’s handlers allow that? Not only is the poor guy getting 1/4 of the money that Ward is getting, but he has an all American happy crew once again to deal with. In the first fight Kovalev, who by the way was the champion, comes to Ward’s home country and practically to his hometown, gets American judges and a referee, and gets shafted. The referee allowed Ward to clinch and tie up Kovalev excessively. Even allowed Ward to use his infamous heading tactics. The fight game is so tightly controlled by the promoters and betters. That is why Kovalev knows that he will have to beat Ward into a bloody pulp or stop him in order to be champion once again. I think he can do it if he just lets his hands go and throws caution to the wind as I don’t really think that Ward can do much to discourage Kovalev.

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