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Arum plotting Crawford-Pacquiao for 2017

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Oct

Bob Arum is already cooking up a possible match-up between Terence Crawford and Manny Pacquiao in 2017 if Pacquiao prevails on Nov. 5 against Jessie Vargas and Crawford wins  his Dec. 10 planned match, the veteran promoter told RingTV.com on Friday.

“If Manny wins the fight and funny enough with Crawford going again in December, it’s possible to do an April fight if Manny and Crawford are successful,” Arum said in a phone interview. “Crawford against Manny — that’s a possibility. That would be a great match.”

Aum is currently in talks to put Crawford on HBO on Dec. 10 after Gennady Golovkin moved off the date to continue negotiations with Danny Jacobs. Arum has tried to give Crawford a shot at Pacquiao before. However, Pacquiao’s side chose to face Vargas instead on Nov. 5, leaving Crawford without a dance partner.

Now, Arum is trying to resurrect the idea again. Yet the Vegas-based promoter isn’t limiting himself to just fighters he promotes as potential Pacquiao opponents. He also spoke optimistically on Friday of working with Al Haymon’s stable and a little cryptically of not having to deal with HBO again on future pay-per-view cards.  Arum seemed emboldened to usher Haymon into his fold and co-promote with Haymon with his company, Top Rank distributing Pacquiao-Vargas on PPV next month instead of HBO. Arum and Haymon had preliminary discussions about matching Adrien Broner with Pacquiao for November before Broner priced himself out.

“I talked to Haymon before I made the Vargas fight about Adrien Broner, who he couldn’t control,” Arum said. “But he has some other welterweights — (Danny) Garcia could be a good opponent. (Keith) Thurman could be a good opponent. I mean, there’s no more boundaries now for Showtime fighters and HBO fighters. As far as I’m concerned, we’re having a great experience doing our own pay-per-view and there’s no real reason for premium networks to get involved in pay-per-view.”

 

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  • Chris Stans

    That senate seat is gonna have cobwebs

    • Carlos

      pac won’t fight crawford. his wife and mother won’t let him, watch.

      • Chris Stans

        Somebody better stop him

        • Carlos

          yep, although I have never cared for pac, I don’t want to see him get massacred at the end of his career. the roach needs to keep manny away from crawford if he truly cares about him. the money wouldn’t be worth it.

          • Giuseppe

            there is no way Crawford massacres Pacquaio. First off, Crawford doesn’t ‘do’ massacre. He stepped off the gas in the Postol fight. And secondly, Pacquiao has never been battered. His worst loss was a clean and beautiful one and done KO from a genius counter puncher.

          • Carlos

            can Crawford afford to have another fight on ppv like the postol fight ? If Manny really wanted Crawford, why are they fighting Jessie Vargas ? Arum is going to take a bath on this fight, if Pac has a large guaranteed purse.

          • Barley Mcgrew

            Enjoyed debating with you this past couple of years, Carlos. Great guy (although getting on a tad. Lol). Yet having just posted two pieces on B-Hop and seen them instantly taken down – simply for saying something different to the ‘Ring’ editor – this website has lost all integrity for me. Good luck in the future mate.

        • Carlos

          yep, although I have never cared for pac, I don’t want to see him get massacred at the end of his career. the roach needs to keep manny away from crawford if he truly cares about him. the money wouldn’t be worth it.

      • Brian Jensen

        When has Pacquiao ever listened to anybody?

        • Carlos

          if arum cares about him, he will get manny a fight with garcia or broner. If he only cares about money he will feed pac to crawford. I don’t think arum would allow pac to catch-weight crawford, as he expects him to be the new top rank star.

          • amiwill

            Arum knows pac only has a few fights left in him and wants to use pac to springboard Crawford’s career, but Freddie Roach won’t let that happen. Remember he was in viktor postol’s corner and saw Crawford up close and personal. No way he okays that fight

          • Carlos

            I hope so, if its just about money, he should fight broner or garcia. crawford is much more accomplished them both of them and would be looking for a KO as a showcase fight. I dont want to see pac get damaged at the end of his career, no amount of money is worth that.

          • Julio

            You are talking like Pacquiao was Ali about to face Foreman or Holmes. I agree that Manny would be the clear underdog, but I don’t think Crawford will completely obliterate him.

          • Carlos

            that’s exactly what I am saying, it would be far worse that ali-holmes. manny has already been KO’ed spectacularly, ali was never knocked unconscious right ?

          • Julio

            I think you misread what I said. Pacquiao is certainly past his best, but this is not even remotely near the Ali-Holmes abomination. Ali was completely shot in that fight. He had absolutely ZERO chance of even being remotely competitive. Pacquiao might still get put to sleep, but it won’t be a total mismatch like Ali against Holmes.

          • Giuseppe

            Pacquiao was KO’d by a foe he faught 4 times. And a HoF foe at that. It took Marquez 4 fights to time him. I think if anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt its the 8-weight champion.

          • Giuseppe

            Exactly. Crawford was brilliant in his last fight and Manny was pretty great too. So let’s see them fight.

          • Ten Count Toronto

            I don’t see the point. Crawford will be a P4P guy, Garcia & Broner never will/ If Pacquiao can’t rise to P4P level, it will look 3 times better on his legacy to be retired by Crawford instead of one of those two. Physically, if Pac is shot and Garcia or Broner have a real great night, I think they might damage Pacquiao more than Crawford, who would either take him out surgically or more likely just outpint him with as little contact as necessary.

          • Brian Jensen

            Arum doesn’t care about Pacquiao anymore, because he’s past his prime. Out with the old, in with the new. And Crawford would have to compromise and fight Pacquiao at his favorite catchweight. Which is 144 pounds.

          • Carlos

            do you really think arum would compromise crawford on the biggest stage of his career. and crawford took a whole bunch of criticism for his tactics vs postol. he can’t afford to have another dull fight on ppv, so i think he would be looking to stop manny. if manny is just interested in money or he really needs the money, there are other fights he can take and win – garcia – broner – thruman. he can’t beat crawford. take care.

          • Giuseppe

            this talk of ‘feeding’ pac to crawford… i don’t know where that comes from. Dis the Pacquaio that battered Bradley look so bad?

          • ceylon mooney

            yea i dont get that.

    • AngelMorningstar

      The Philippines is corrupt as fuck. All the senetators do it/leave and just cash that cheque.

      • Julio

        When have you seen a politician working? It doesn’t matter where they from.

  • Autosmell

    For reals do we need to see Donald Curry – Jun-Suk a Hwang II? smh

  • wayne reid

    Arum wait & let’s see how well your Top Rank independently promoted @PacVargas Ppv does before you count Hbo out

    • Rick

      I just asked my magic 8ball and it says “not so good”.

  • amiwill

    I would actually like to see pac vs broner/Garcia

  • AllAboutBoxing

    Depending on how Manny looks against Vargas…it could be a very good fight..

  • Douglas Cohen

    If Manny and Crawford both won their fights, what makes the most sense for Manny’s next fight is fighting Crawford or fighting the winner of Thurman/Garcia. Other than Crawford, Arum will have to start looking outside his stable going forward–he has no other opponents with any meaningful name recognition that he can match up with Manny.

  • Charlie Underbite

    Meh. At this point in their careers, Pacquiao would be serving as a glorified gate keeper for Crawford. That’s a cash out fight for him if he can’t lure Mayweather out of retirement. I have no interest in fights like this because they prove nothing.

    • RL Stecher

      Using that logic you must dismiss a lot of fights that prove nothing…Floyd vs DLH (or any of his fights since Corrales), Hopkins vs. anyone of his fights since Tarver, Ali vs. Foreman, and the list goes on. If Manny was shopworn like Roy Jones Jr. and still fighting unheralded opponents I’d say yes, the outcome proves nothing. But if he can defeat Vargas and then fight competitively against Crawford these fights are relevant. So long as his fights are still competitive and entertaining, they are relevant.

      • Charlie Underbite

        Not sure what you’re talking about. I’m saying that if Crawford beats the 2017 version of Pacquiao ( a guy who at that point will be in his 23rd year as a professional, hadn’t knocked someone out in 8 years, has himself been knocked out cold, and landed just 81 punches in his fight against Mayweather) it will not mean very much. Now, should Pac turn the tables and beat Crawford, that would be huge. But as I wrote to another poster, if you think Arum will put these two in the same ring before he’s fairly certain of the outcome (a Crawford win) you haven’t been paying attention to Arum. He will squeeze every thing he can out of Pac before he throws him to his young and upcoming stud.

        • RL Stecher

          You cannot judge Crawford’s win on the fact that Pac hasn’t KO’d anyone since Cotto or that the Mayweather fight was a flop (they share the blame in that one). If Crawford beats Manny it is a huge notch on his belt. Arum doesn’t have a crystal ball. He will squeeze whatever he can out of a fighter while he still has them at their peak or their decline. Like any other promoter. Crawford doesn’t have an easy road ahead of him. Welterweight division is stacked. He may not bring his power with him to 147 against the bangers like Thurman, Porter, Spence, and even Garcia. Arum just wants to get the biggest payday he can. What makes you think he doesn’t think Manny can win? He is hoping for a Pac/May rematch which would be his most lucrative, if Pac loses to Crawford there’s no possibility for a rematch with Mayweather and Floyd certainly isn’t going to fight Crawford.

    • Giuseppe

      if Pacquiao beats Crawford it sure proves something. Crawford isn;t a lock-in to win this fight by any means. I have it slightly in favour of crawford because of his youth and style but Pacquaio is a beast, still.

      • Charlie Underbite

        Please. If you think Arum will ever put Crawford in with Pacquiao before he’s sure Pacquiao is washed up, you haven’t been paying attention much to how the Bobfather operates.

        • Giuseppe

          that supposes that arum or any of us know what pacquiao has left. who knows but him?

          • Charlie Underbite

            Well, we have pretty good evidence that he’s not the same guy. He’s been a professional for 21 years, hasn’t knocked anyone out since 2009, landed just 81 punches against Mayweather, and has already retired.

          • Giuseppe

            doesn’t need to knock anyone out to beat them, fighting eight weight classes higher was bound to see an end to his Kos. we may have seen that with chocolatito already.

            defo not the same beast he was. that’s impossible. I’m just not convinced that even this pac cannot give Crawford a very difficult nights work.

      • Adam Jenkins

        I agree. I don’t see Crawford dominating by any sense. I give him the edge in age, but pacquiao is still a very live, dangerous dog in that fight. I almost see it as even. It’d be a damn good match. Even at this stage in Manny’s career

    • ceylon mooney

      crawford might beat pacquiao. i still favor pacquiao.

  • Don Wordy

    i can see Pac and Crawford both fighting in April and in the same bill but not against each other.

  • Kwame Johnson

    “I mean, there’s no more boundaries now for Showtime fighters and HBO fighters. As far as I’m concerned, we’re having a great experience doing our own pay-per-view and there’s no real reason for premium networks to get involved in pay-per-view.”

    This is the main reason I’m paying for the Pac/Vargas fight (besides the fact that the undercard is stacked), to support this non-premium PPV model. If it does well enough, we really might just get to see a lot of matches between the top fighters in Haymon’s stable vs. the top fighters in Arum’s stable.

    • Ciscostudent561

      I know right? I’d love to be able to stream the fights. I do much of my limited viewership via streaming. AMazon Prime + Sling TV… call it a day. Most of these big time fighters have millions of followers on social media. Why not promote the stream of the fight through a streaming service and charge- $20 bux for it? IF they negotiate it properly they can get up to $15 off each stream. You do the math everyone wins..

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