Mayhem: Who wins Floyd Mayweather Jr.-Marcos Maidana II?
RING number one-rated Floyd Mayweather Jr. will be in familiar territory in a couple of ways during Saturday’s rematch with Marcos Maidana at the MGM Grand, site of Mayweather’s majority decision over Maidana in May.
Mayweather (46-0, 26 knockouts) is returning to the MGM for the 10th straight time and 13th overall against Maidana (35-4, 31 KOs), 31, who dethroned previously unbeaten Adrien Broner for the WBA’s welterweight belt in December.
The triumph over Broner represented Maidana’s fifth fight as a 147-pounder, his previous loss having been by unanimous decision to southpaw Devon Alexander in his welterweight debut in February 2012.
Mayweather, 37, will be more accustomed to the third man in the ring than will Maidana, given referee Kenny Bayless has worked Mayweather’s victories over Oscar De La Hoya in May 2007, Shane Mosley in May 2010 and Saul Alvarez in May 2013. Regarding the Argentine, Bayless only worked Maidana’s eighth round stoppage of Jesus Soto Karass in September 2012.
Mayweather felt referee Tony Weeks was too lenient during the first bout with Maidana, whom Mayweather said “bent my arm” in the second round “when the ref told us to break” and caused Mayweather to shake it noticeably.
In the return bout, Mayweather will be risking both his WBC welterweight and junior middleweight belts, WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman has announced. Mayweather already is THE RING’s champion at 147 and 154 pounds, as well as the beltholder for the WBA in each of those categories.
Mayweather decisioned Alvarez last September for the WBC’s 154-pound belt before defeating Maidana.
As follows, RingTV.com sought the opinions of 37 insiders concerning what will transpire in Mayweather-Maidana II.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: I like Floyd Mayweather Jr. to do it a little easier this time. Mayweather saw what he needed to work on in the first fight and he knows that Marcos Maidana will look to maul and make the fight ugly. Mayweather has had four months to correct that and develop a new plan to give himself space to work and I can see a typical Mayweather 119-109, 118-110 kind of decision for the win in this.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: I’m picking Floyd Mayweather Jr. by decision over Marcos Maidana. Floyd fights a smarter fight this time and will win by a wide margin.
Record: 1-0 [Last pick: Floyd Mayweather Jr. TKO Marcos Maidana]
Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: I think Floyd Mayweather Jr. makes his adjustments and makes this a fairly easy fight. The first fight may have been Mayweather at his worst but I think he will step it up this time, solve Marcos Maidana early and win a unanimous 12-round decision.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Marcos Maidana’s claim that he has more room to grow and improve than does Floyd Mayweather Jr. as the basis for his guaranteeing victory is severely flawed. If anything, I was left with the exact opposite feeling following the first fight: What could Maidana possibly do differently in a rematch?
I expect Mayweather to stick to boxing far more in the sequel though also planting his feet and landing enough power shots to keep Maidana honest whenever things threaten to get rough.
I thought Maidana fought as well as he could have in the first fight, exceeding my own expectations, and I still had Mayweather winning 115-113. I expect to see a wider fight this time around with Mayweather cleanly winning at least eight or nine rounds and removing all doubt.
Record: 19-6 [Last pick: Adrien Broner UD 12 Emmanuel Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Promoters are calling it “Mayhem” but there won’t be much of that. Not within the ropes anyway. The rematch was made because Floyd Mayweather Jr. wants to eliminate the mayhem that Marcos Maidana used to disrupt his usual control.
Mayweather won the first one by more than the majority decision suggests but there were moments when Mayweather looked confused by Maidana’s whirlwind collection of take-down tactics. If Mayweather is the craft’s reigning artist, Maidana’s only chance was to throw a brick through the canvas. He did repeatedly.
Borderline tactics are a last resort for a fighter with no other options. Hard to know what else Maidana can do but Mayweather can do plenty, including more of an accurate jab that should set up the counter and re-establish him as cool, calculating and still in charge.
Record: 21-7 [Last pick: Broner TKO 9 Taylor]
Marcos Maidana SD 12 Floyd Mayweather Jr: Let’s go out on a limb and predict that Marcos “El Chino” Maidana improves on his offensive performance but that the accuracy of judges responsible for recent Floyd Mayweather Jr. decisions doesn’t.
Of course, “Money” should win in Las Vegas and it might well again appear that he does but this is boxing, a filthy sport with a devious undercurrent. Dave Moretti will score a close fight for Floyd but there’s no telling what those other two might do to cause majority mayhem.
One more thing to look out for is some form of vicious retaliation from Mayweather to Maidana’s dirty deeds that could lead to a crucial point lost or even a potential disqualification loss not unlike what happened to Roy Jones Jr. when he took his first “L” against Montell Griffin. However the job gets done, fans and media will ensure the trilogy after another controversial call in Sin City.
Record: 19-9 [Last pick: Broner TKO 10 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Floyd Mayweather Jr. took a while to figure out Marcos Maidana before he took over the first fight. Floyd should be better the second time around.
Record: 4-1 [Last pick: Mayweather UD 12 Maidana]
Randy Gordon, Host of “At the Fights” on SiriusXM Radio
Floyd Mayweather Jr. W 12 Marcos Maidana: I think Floyd Mayweather Jr. takes a decision over Marcos Maidana in another rough, physical fight.
Floyd Mayweather UD 12 Marcos Maidana: If you play the odds, Floyd Mayweather Jr. by decision is the only pick to make here. Many are of the opinion that Mayweather’s legs are gone but for me, he stayed in close with Marcos Maidana by choice.
In the rematch, I expect Mayweather to give “Chino” a variety of different looks. There will be outside, mid-range and long-range work, which will showcase superior ring generalship throughout.
There will be plenty of jabbing up and down and also periods where power shots and sharp counters lead the way. I don’t think Maidana can improve but history tells us that Mayweather can.
Mayweather is too well-preserved and dedicated to have slipped significantly and I think Maidana will lose the majority of the 12 rounds.
Record: 21-7 [Last pick: Carl Frampton UD 12 Kiko Martinez]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: If Marcos Maidana lives up to his promise to maintain the pressure for all 12 rounds and to not gain so much weight after the weigh-in, he has the goods to take Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s precious zero from the loss column.
That said, Mayweather wouldn’t have opted to take this rematch if he didn’t feel confident that he’ll emerge victorious. In his only other rematch against Jose Luis Castillo – who used a similar pressure style to trouble Mayweather in the first fight – Mayweather adjusted his tactics and won more decisively in terms of the ring action if not on the official scorecards.
I expect the same scenario to unfold here. Mayweather’s accuracy was off-the-charts in fight one and if he stays in the center of the ring, that precision will enable him to pile up just enough points to get the victory.
Record: 13-5 [Last pick: Shawn Porter UD 12 Kell Brook]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: I may be in the minority here but I truly believe that Floyd Mayweather Jr. “trolled” the boxing public by making his first fight with Marcos Maidana more difficult than it should have been in an effort to create a healthy buzz for a September rematch.
Remember, Mayweather caught a lot of heat for selecting Maidana and with no other opponent that made financial sense in sight for his September fight, it looks like he manufactured one in Maidana by fighting an ill-advised fight for the sake of entertainment.
Well, don’t expect the same thing to happen on Sept. 13. The rematch will be a boxing clinic, where Mayweather will use his feet a lot more to dance away from Maidana’s advances and pick him apart in the center of the ring.
As game as Maidana will be in the rematch, the fact is that Mayweather already has him figured out and I don’t see Maidana having the ability to make any adjustments to offset what Mayweather will bring to the table. It will look as easy as his fights with Guerrero and Canelo and fight fans will feel ripped off after unloading their wallets for this one-sided clinic.
Record: 18-6 [Last pick: Porter UD 12 Brook]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: I see Floyd Mayweather Jr. coming out victorious. I think that he’ll make some adjustments against Marcos Maidana. I think that the result of the first fight was really blown out of proportion and I don’t think that it even justified the rematch.
I see Mayweather making the adjustments and putting it on Maidana. Maidana is a threat in any fight that he’s in because he’s determined and durable but I see Mayweather’s skills coming out on top at the end of the day. That’s how I envision it.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Marcos Maidana had press row in awe when he took four out of the first five rounds against Floyd Mayweather Jr. on several reporters’ scorecards, at least that’s what mine read. But Mayweather dug deep, eventually timed Maidana’s advances and combinations and effectively boxed his way to capturing six of the last seven stanzas.
This time, having been aware of the necessary adjustments to approach Maidana’s unorthodox brawling style, I think Mayweather wins in clearer fashion – not unlike how his rematch with Jose Luis Castillo played out.
Record: 9-1 [Last pick: Broner TKO 5 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: This fight will be more like the second half of the first contest. Floyd Mayweather Jr. will look to send a fistic message early on but then he will keep the fray in center of the ring.
Marcos Maidana needs to find more punching room when he has Floyd on the ropes but as soon as “Chino” starts moving to the side or back, Floyd will pivot out and pound him. If Maidana wins, it will have to be by a knockout.
Record: 1-0 [Last pick: Mayweather KO 8 Maidana]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. TKO 9 Marcos Maidana: I thoroughly enjoyed the first fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Marcos Maidana. It was exciting, dirty, unpredictable and most of all, competitive. There is no reason fight number two shouldn’t have all of those components as well and that should make for a compelling evening for the fans.
There will be one big difference in this one however. Mayweather will be more prepared for the wild, unorthodox attack of Maidana. The smartest proponents of the “Sweet Science” almost always improve in rematches and I certainly include Mayweather in that equation.
Think of the difference between Mayweather-Jose Luis Castillo I and Mayweather-Castillo II. This will be a similar scenario. Maidana will again bring the fight to Mayweather and will likely have some success. But Mayweather will make him pay sooner and with greater consequences.
Maidana has been knocked down several times in his career and the sharp punching of Mayweather will result in that happening in the rematch. I think the fight will be stopped with Mayweather the winner.
Record: 20-8 [Last pick: Broner W 12 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. W 12 Marcos Maidana: Marcos Maidana put together his best performance ever in their first bout and he managed to give Floyd Mayweather Jr. more trouble than anyone in recent memory this side of Miguel Cotto.
But the truth is that even his best effort wasn’t enough to make Mayweather look anywhere near being decisively beaten. Punch stats never tell the whole story but the 858/221 vs. 426/230 stat in thrown/landed punches for Maidana/Mayweather do paint a good picture of what we should expect in the rematch as well.
If they fight 100 times, Mayweather will win at least 96 times and the CompuBox stats will change only slightly from one fight to the other. I do expect a great fight and another terrific effort by Maidana as well. But I also expect to see Mayweather outsmart, outbox and outland his man once again for another unanimous decision in his favor.
Record: 9-5 [Last pick: Broner KO 8 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. W 12 Marcos Maidana: Last May, Floyd Mayweather Jr. won a hard-fought, 12-round majority decision over Marcos Maidana. The fight was competitive, especially in the early going, with Mayweather doing just enough to secure the victory.
Not many expected the undefeated Mayweather to have to work so hard to defeat Maidana. The boxing fans screamed for a rematch. So what happens this time? I believe it depends on which Mayweather shows up.
If he languishes on the ropes like he did at times during the first fight, Maidana will have moments of success. If Mayweather keeps the action in the center of the ring and boxes, he’ll win the sequel easier than the first battle. Look for the latter to appear this Saturday night. Mayweather will box his way to a 12-round decision.
Record: 21-7 [Last pick: Broner TKO 9 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. W 12 Marcos Maidana: I like Floyd Mayweather Jr. by decision. Again. Frankly, I don’t think he looked bad in May because of styles or because he fought the wrong fight.
I think Mayweather looked bad because his legs aren’t what they used to be. He looked old. In the four months since, he hasn’t gotten any younger. However, even a diminished version of Mayweather should be enough to beat a there-to-be-hit Marcos Maidana.
It won’t be easy and it won’t be pretty. The “Pretty Boy Floyd” days where he could dance around the ring are long gone but there should still be enough of a skill discrepancy there for Mayweather to take home another close and probably controversial decision win.
Record: 19-5 [Last pick: Anthony Dirrell W 12 Sakio Bika]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. W 12 Marcos Maidana: Floyd Mayweather Jr. still knows more about boxing than Marcos Maidana will ever learn and he’ll ride through turbulence again. Until someone beats him, there is no reason to pick against Mayweather. Could he lose? It’s possible.
It’s more likely he wins a good fight with a little less fun than last time, a little tougher take on the rules from the referee and a bit more movement early in the fight. The pick is Mayweather by decision.
Record: 16-11 [Last pick: Broner W 12 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Marcos Maidana gave us some unexpected moments in his first meeting with Floyd Mayweather Jr., which turned what many believed would be a walkover into an interesting fight.
That doesn’t mean it was a close fight and it certainly doesn’t mean the rematch will be particularly competitive. Mayweather knows what he’s up against now. The adjustments he made to take firm control of their first fight will be employed in the second, which will allow Mayweather to win a one-sided decision.
Record: 14-5 [Last pick: Broner UD 12 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. D 12 Marcos Maidana: If this fight was close the first time around, I think the second time will be closer. Eight weeks of training camp is more effective than five weeks and I think that might have been Marcos Maidana’s downfall as he tired late in the fight.
Maidana will still be aggressive but I have a feeling he’s going to feint a lot more to get Floyd Mayweather Jr. to open up. If he can land his left hook to the head or body, he gives himself a good chance to win.
Mayweather was less mobile in this fight and one wonders if he still has the legs to move for 12 rounds. Mayweather can outbox Maidana during most exchanges but can Maidana catch him one time? I’m going to go on a limb and say draw, majority or split.
Record: 6-1 [Last pick: Porter W 12 Brook]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Floyd Mayweather Jr. is one of those talents who can adjust his game to suit the situation. After having had a 12-round experience, it will be easier to pound on Marcos Maidana. I see a five-point advantage at the end.
Record: 5-4 [Last pick: Diego Chaves W 10 Brandon Rios]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Floyd Mayweather Jr. may have a little something to prove here. Marcos Maidana shoved him around a good bit the first time they fought but you also saw Maidana tire at the end and Floyd didn’t. This may be a “typical” Mayweather fight, one of those virtuoso performances where he dominates every second of every round as if he’s not even in there with another fighter.
Record: 13-0 [Last pick: Broner KO 9 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: I can’t see anything but Floyd Mayweather Jr. adjusting his game and doing what he needs to do to be successful. There will be a much more disciplined and intelligent showing this time around against Marcos Maidana and Mayweather wins by unanimous and clear decision all the way.
Record: 12-8 [Last pick: Broner W 12 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. W 12 Marcos Maidana: I expect this fight to be very similar to their first. If referee Kenny Bayless lets Marcos Maidana roughhouse, it should be nearly a carbon copy.
If Maidana does not rehydrate after weigh-in and put on so much weight and can keep up the pressure and pace the entire 12 rounds, it could be even a better fight. If Floyd Mayweather Jr. goes to Maidana’s body, I think he might be able to get a stoppage as Maidana is very suspect there. At the end of the night, Mayweather goes to 47-0 with a decision win.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Floyd Mayweather Jr. made the first fight much more difficult than it should have been. Mayweather decided to linger on the ropes, which is the only place that Marcos Maidana had any chance of landing anything of consequence. I don’t think that will happen the second time around, so it’s going to be Mayweather by unanimous decision.
Record: 1-1 [Last pick: Tim Bradley W 12 Manny Pacquiao]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. W 12 Marcos Maidana: I like Floyd Mayweather Jr by another competitive but clear decision. I think we will see something similar to what happened in the first fight, where Mayweather gives away early rounds and waits for Marcos Maidana to tire before taking over.
Mayweather is the king of Las Vegas for a reason and he knows what the Vegas judges want to see. The biggest question is, who will make the most effective adjustment? Will Mayweather find a way to nullify or counter Maidana’s aggression to slow him down earlier?
Will Maidana find a way to be as effective later in the fight as he is early without expending too much energy? It’s hard to pick against the fighter with the pound-for-pound crown and a clean boxing record.
Record: 5-1 [Last pick: Diego Chaves W 10 Brandon Rios]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: I picked Floyd Mayweather Jr. to stop Marcos Maidana in their first fight but Floyd never noticeably hurt “El Chino.” Maidana was able to walk through everything Mayweather hit him with and I don’t see it being any different this time around.
Other than with his jab, Maidana, for the most part, didn’t touch Floyd’s chin. The only chance he has to win this fight is by hitting Floyd flush on the chin and knocking him out. I don’t think Floyd will spend as much time with his back to the ropes as he did in the first fight and will force Maidana to have success in the middle of the ring, which he won’t.
Don’t overlook the fact that Kenny Bayless has been appointed as referee and he will certainly not let Maidana get away with all of the fouling that Tony Weeks did. I look for Floyd to keep the fight in the middle of the ring more often than not and to box his way to a lopsided points win.
Record: 14-4 [Last pick: Porter UD 12 Brook]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: I think that Floyd Mayweather Jr. will take this guy more seriously and that he’ll beat him easily. I think that Floyd will beat Marcos Maidana by a unanimous decision this time.
Bradley Starks, guest/fan, Novato, Calif.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: No doubts about it, the first fight was exciting, that is until around the sixth or seventh round and onward once Floyd Mayweather Jr. had pretty much figured Marcos Maidana out. I expect the rematch to be a little less exciting and a more dominant win for Floyd.
I also wouldn’t be surprised to see “Chino” lose some points – or possibly even the fight by DQ – as I suspect Kenny Bayless will be paying very close attention to the Argentine’s propensity for dirty tactics. The Mayweather camp will be all over him before the fight to ensure that happens.
Record: 8-1 [Last pick: Broner KO 4 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. SD 12 Marcos Maidana: Usually, it’s the proverbial piece of cake picking Floyd Mayweather Jr. by decision. He’s a master defensive machine who never lets anyone get off against him. But this rematch won’t be that easy.
Marcos Maidana will come right after Mayweather from the opening bell as he did in the first fight. He’s known for his punching power and, yeah, he doesn’t always follow the rules the way the Marquis of Queensbury intended but “El Chino” is a better ring technician than most observers give him credit for.
And he’s got a wicked jab. Oh, yeah – and he’s trained by an, uh, OK cornerman in Robert Garcia. If one of the sport’s best trainers can figure out how to pierce Floyd’s armor, one of its biggest punchers might be able to do more than just cut Mayweather in their second go-around.
Record: 12-5 [Last pick: Broner UD 12 Taylor]
Marcos Maidana KO 7 Floyd Mayweather Jr.: Rumor has it that Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao will tangle next year. This weekend’s rematch with Marcos Maidana is already becoming an afterthought and is being shelved away in the record books as easy money for the pound-for-pound champ.
I, for one, never could conceive of Maidana giving Mayweather a fight, let alone landing a fight with richest man in boxing. Mayweather enjoys his wealth, women and his undefeated record more than any other fighter on the planet and will be ready for his daring opponent.
But as ready as Mayweather may be, I see a loss in his future on Saturday night as “El Chino” destroys the richest fight in history. Maidana will land a Hail Mary right over a lazy jab by Mayweather, ending matters inside of seven entertaining rounds.
Record: 19-6 [Last pick: Broner W 12 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Despite most fight fans not really feeling a rematch was necessary, we’ve got one anyway. In their previous meeting, Marcos Maidana was able to rough Floyd Mayweather Jr. up on all four sides of the ring before losing out to stamina issues and the ridiculous skills Mayweather still possesses at 37.
What Maidana was able to give Mayweather that the past decade was unable to was a hard fight that had fans genuinely excited during an actual Mayweather fight. Some might argue that Mayweather allowed Maidana to force that fight but there was part of Mayweather that was willing to get roughed up over 12 rounds.
What allowed Maidana to do so was his brutal style and atypical method to throwing his punches. But no one in this sport adjusts better than Mayweather and by the end of the fight, Mayweather had managed take control and continue his undefeated streak.
Will we see the same Maidana this time around? Most likely. He may be better conditioned, a bit more method in his relentless assault and know his opponent better, but he’s still facing the top fighter of this era. This time around, the fight’s going to look like the second half of their last meeting with Mayweather yet again the victor.
The road to this victory will involve Mayweather using his vaunted lateral and upper body movement, making Maidana miss while potshotting as he steps out of the way. It won’t be the thrilling scrap we had the last time around but it’ll be another clinic you can point to when discussing the “Sweet Science” in the modern era.
Record: 13-8 [Last pick: Broner UD 12 Taylor]
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Floyd Mayweather Jr. has forgotten more than Marcos Maidana will ever know and though he looked to have slipped last time out, he still found a way to get the victory.
It’s also reasonable to think that although Mayweather has always managed to block out outside distractions, that back in May, he was effected by the split-up and from Miss Jackson as well as her having an abortion.
I see a more focused Mayweather dealing with Maidana better this time. Yes, Maidana will have his moments but they’ll be for less frequent than in the first go-around. I see Mayweather coming through wide on points by something like 118-110.
Record: 19-6 [Last pick: Broner TKO 8 Taylor]
Gary “Digital” Williams, Fightnews.com
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: If Marcos Maidana thinks that Floyd Mayweather Jr. will fight him the same way he did in the first bout, he will be in trouble. Mayweather will adjust and he will make the rematch an easier bout.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. UD 12 Marcos Maidana: Floyd Mayweather Jr. works smarter, not harder. Mayweather’s legs might be going but they aren’t gone. The same for his reflexes, which are slightly eroded. But Mayweather is still TBFRN…The Best For Right Now. Mayweather wins by unanimous decision over Marcos Maidana with no controversy.
The insiders have chosen Floyd Mayweather Jr. to successfully defend his RING 147-pound championship against Marcos Maidana by a margin of 34-to-2-to-1.